Alice B
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the bees are settled into their new hives, the gardens are watered, it's going to be 96 today with a THI of 105 so I guess I am going to fix sewing machines
What are you doing today?
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It's 17c/63f, with a stiff breeze from the north , cloud and sun, and the light in this room filtered through red maple leaves. Kinda nice.
I put what is either Bathyaethiops greeni or B. breuseghemi (I think greeni) tetras from the Congo region into a breeding tank, and then right next door to them put some northern Gabon Neolebias trewevasae into another. I have no idea what the results will be, but I saw the bathyaethiops spawning over sand in their community tank last weekend, so since the females look nice and round, let's see if they'll do it again.
The Neolebias are in darkly stained, very soft tannin water at 22 degrees, which is what they were in in Gabon. I'm following a plan that worked 20 years ago for Nigerian Neolebias ansorgii. Maybe it'll pan out.
The water in the greeni tank is less brown, but still dark, and is at 24 degrees rising to 26. I'm hoping the temperature change will trigger spawning.
I still have my huge gaggle of growing Microctenopoma congicum fry. They look like fish now, albeit really tiny ones. And the Norman's lampeye eggs have started hatching, at 12 days. I have 15 Platopochilus sp babies, and a bunch of tiny Aphyosemion zygaima, exigoideum and escherichi young.
All this keeps me amused.
I put what is either Bathyaethiops greeni or B. breuseghemi (I think greeni) tetras from the Congo region into a breeding tank, and then right next door to them put some northern Gabon Neolebias trewevasae into another. I have no idea what the results will be, but I saw the bathyaethiops spawning over sand in their community tank last weekend, so since the females look nice and round, let's see if they'll do it again.
The Neolebias are in darkly stained, very soft tannin water at 22 degrees, which is what they were in in Gabon. I'm following a plan that worked 20 years ago for Nigerian Neolebias ansorgii. Maybe it'll pan out.
The water in the greeni tank is less brown, but still dark, and is at 24 degrees rising to 26. I'm hoping the temperature change will trigger spawning.
I still have my huge gaggle of growing Microctenopoma congicum fry. They look like fish now, albeit really tiny ones. And the Norman's lampeye eggs have started hatching, at 12 days. I have 15 Platopochilus sp babies, and a bunch of tiny Aphyosemion zygaima, exigoideum and escherichi young.
All this keeps me amused.
Our three 100+lb neighbor dogs dug through the fence and ganged up on my dog. Administered emergency first aid and taking him to emergency vet, but it’s really not pretty
Alice B
Fish Herder
that's rough. and the neighbor should get the vet bill. But I will tell you this, I have a 10 year old dog that got ganged up on by 2 of mine when he tried to declare himself pack leader and I still have him, he is not allowed out with the other males anymore and hasn't been since 2018. I love him so he is separate Main point after 35 staples and antibiotics and shooting saline stuff into wounds he is alive and healthy
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Sorry to hear about this incident. Ask the neighbor to pay the vet bill. If they wont pay , take them to small claims court. Take a pic of the area where the neighbor’s dog came through the fence for evidence.
Hope your dog fully heals.
Hope your dog fully heals.
They offered to pay for the surgery since we paid the last time it happened when he was just a puppy
Alice B
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How is he doing @JuiceBox52
What!?
That's insane, oh my gosh.
I hope your dog recovers well and the neighbors pay
He’s about to be taken back for surgery he is gonna be okay
So glad to hear that
It's awful that this happened, and traumatic for both you and pupper - have been there - but this is the main thing! So glad to hear he's going to be okay.
Wow, this is the second time it's happened??
Clearly not responsible owners, if they have a pack of large dogs that tend to at least dog aggression, that they cannot contain, there are going to be more incidents like this... and it's worrying that they didn't learn from the first time. Your dog might not be the only target either. Don't know where you live, but given they've escaped at least twice, not unlikely that they can escape and attack other passing dogs, or even kids.
I'd be tempted to have a word with animal control, after they've covered the vet bills in full... but then again, I'd also be super wary about doing that since they'd be bound to know it's you that reported them, and then you risk neighbours with a grudge against you.
Perhaps just look into how you might be able to affordably disuade the dogs from being able to get through to your side by digging under. You can sink chicken wire quite deep into the ground and curl it, but I'd also go for something stronger than chicken wire. I don't know, just suggestions off the top of my head.
For now though, make sure to take care of yourself, so you can take care of your pupper when he comes home with you. Sleep if you can, eat some healthy, sustaining food, drink plenty of water, and rest even if you can't sleep. If I remember rightly, your dog is young, still under two years old, so will often bounce back quickly, but sometimes too quickly! Keeping them form bouncing about too much while they're healing can be the challenge. If he's crate trained, that makes it much easier, even though I dislike crates for the most part and any other purpose, they're good for post surgery stuff if the dog is crate trained.
My day - I finally put my two L181 females into the same tank as the male, after adding more pleco caves and doing a large W/C. The male, Bowie, has been showing every sign that he's ready, willing and wanting to breed, and he certainly noticed immediately when I added the first girl after acclimating her (while I was still trying to catch the second girl!)
L181's are basically just a fancy bristlenose, and I know they're the guppies of the pleco world, "just add water and bristlenose will breed", kinda thing. See ads all the time where people are desperately trying to sell for a £1 each or give away baby bristlenose, often with photos showing they're over run with them, lol. But, it's still my first time, and I'm nervous!
Bowie has been going around the tank today, checking out each cave.
L181's are basically just a fancy bristlenose, and I know they're the guppies of the pleco world, "just add water and bristlenose will breed", kinda thing. See ads all the time where people are desperately trying to sell for a £1 each or give away baby bristlenose, often with photos showing they're over run with them, lol. But, it's still my first time, and I'm nervous!
Bowie has been going around the tank today, checking out each cave.
He’s doing well and the neighbors have already paid the bill in full. After the first attack they spent almost 100 grand on deep underground fencing, DOUBLE fencing even the border of the property and a smaller area. They sent their dogs to a highly recommended trainer for 3 months of boarding, and the other two dogs could care less about our dogs but the main one is absolutely brutal. He will escape any enclosure repeatedly to try to attack him. They’ve already offered to get rid of him after thisIt's awful that this happened, and traumatic for both you and pupper - have been there - but this is the main thing! So glad to hear he's going to be okay.
Wow, this is the second time it's happened??
Clearly not responsible owners, if they have a pack of large dogs that tend to at least dog aggression, that they cannot contain, there are going to be more incidents like this... and it's worrying that they didn't learn from the first time. Your dog might not be the only target either. Don't know where you live, but given they've escaped at least twice, not unlikely that they can escape and attack other passing dogs, or even kids.
I'd be tempted to have a word with animal control, after they've covered the vet bills in full... but then again, I'd also be super wary about doing that since they'd be bound to know it's you that reported them, and then you risk neighbours with a grudge against you.
Perhaps just look into how you might be able to affordably disuade the dogs from being able to get through to your side by digging under. You can sink chicken wire quite deep into the ground and curl it, but I'd also go for something stronger than chicken wire. I don't know, just suggestions off the top of my head.
For now though, make sure to take care of yourself, so you can take care of your pupper when he comes home with you. Sleep if you can, eat some healthy, sustaining food, drink plenty of water, and rest even if you can't sleep. If I remember rightly, your dog is young, still under two years old, so will often bounce back quickly, but sometimes too quickly! Keeping them form bouncing about too much while they're healing can be the challenge. If he's crate trained, that makes it much easier, even though I dislike crates for the most part and any other purpose, they're good for post surgery stuff if the dog is crate trained.
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Sigh, by "get rid of him" I assume that you mean having the dog put down. I mean they can't just give it away or take to a shelter as that would just move the aggressive behavior to another location.
I don't recall you saying the breed of the aggressive dog. Is it one that is subject to extreme inbreeding issues such as a pit bull? If so I can't see much of an option than the dog be put down. These kinds of situations tick me off as the fault goes to us humans, not the dog breed.
BTW, I'm not putting down pit bulls as they can be very gentle and friendly pets. The problem is not the breed but breeders and 'puppy farms' taking zero responsibility. LOL! The last maintenance guy for my apartments had a HUGE pit bull at around 100 pounds. I will admit that this dog was an extreme danger as it would drown you in slime licking your face if you scratched behind his ears.
I'm imagining by "get rid of him" they mean they'll give or sell him to someone else.
The problem is fairly easily resolved, for owners of aggressive dogs. Basket muzzles are not cruel, allow the dog to pant and to drink - people who take in ex-racing Greyhounds commonly use them, because they're aware of the potential drives of their breed, and accept the limitations and responsibilities that come with that. Not all ex-racers need them or are prone to it, but the fact is they're bred to chase a small furry thing as fast as they can - and they're incredibly fast.
That often means off-lead time usually means only in an enclosed area, careful around cats, especially unfamiliar, unknown cats, and other small furries. If the dog is likely to nip or potentially fight with other dogs, whether from excitement or lack of socialisation, and prone to chase either small furries, or huge mammals like deer - they put a basket muzzle on their dog if it needs it.
Because they know no matter and sweet and goofy they usually are, they are hunting dogs. Sighthounds with incredible distance vision, incredible speed, but not much endurance, and ex-racers at least, bred for a high prey drive.
I rarely, RARELY see a bully breed with a muzzle, even the ones that really, really needed one.
The solution is that the aggressive dog doesn't go outside without a strong lead/tether, a muzzle, and supervision. Isn't allowed around other dogs, kids, or elderly people- best kept away from unknown people. And if that isn't possible, or they can't provide any kind of decent quality of life and can't keep others safe from the dog, then euthanising is the responsible and often kindest thing.
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