out of time. Mum at end stage.

Meeting the funeral director on Thursday 18th was really hard. He was nice, and I like the company much more than the one that handled dad's funeral (still contemplating making a complaint about the woman from that company who spoke so coldly to me on the 27th, and their whole handling of the situation). But of course brother left all organising and decisions to me, just as he did for dad's.

When it comes to my brother, I'm just trying to accept that he is who he is, and he is where he's at, so to try not to get frustrated and angry with him, can't expect him to just know what to do and do it, because that won't get either of us anywhere, and I don't want to feel angry or upset with him all the time, or resent him for leaving it all to me. He has issues he hasn't had help with, I've been fortunate to be more functional in many ways, had the benefit of a lot of therapy over the years, and considering he's likely neurodivergent, even our childhoods and experiences of our parents and relationships with them were very different. Dad certainly didn't hide that I was his favourite, and could come down hard on my brother at times.

If I accept that I need to take charge and take the lead in sorting things out, and keep working with professionals to get things sorted, then I won't get so mad at him for not automatically helping with that. I also have to recognise that he is trying, in his own ways. He's spoken to a doctor at least, and has more appointments lined up for bloodwork etc. He decided against any treatment for depression at this point, which I think is a mistake, but he has at least mentioned it to his doc, he's spoken to a doc and is willing to get bloodwork and talk with the diabetes nurse (the same one mum saw, so she's at least met my brother before, and I'm sure will be good with him).

So while I said I think he should consider possibly trying an antidepressant, and getting onto the waiting list for talk therapy, since the waiting lists are super long, and he deserves help with his depression too, but also told him I'm proud of him for making that huge step of talking to a doctor, telling them his fears, and making those follow up appointments. That if he's not ready for that yet, that it's absolutely his choice, and he can always change his mind and ask about them later. That he's made a huge step in the right direction, and I'm not knocking that at all, that I'm here for him, the negative things he tells himself and worries about that he's shared are the depression talking, not reality. That it's not too late for him, he's only 44 and can still get his health, both physical and mental, under control, and make a new, healthier and happier life for himself, and that I want to support him to do that too, for both of us to work on our issues individually, support each other as and when we can, give each other some grace at those times we can't, and that nothing is unfixable. He gave me a Birthday card, and wrote a nice message inside, which he doesn't usually do, so I know he's trying.

I'd been moving furniture, pictures, photos and knick knacks in the living room last week too, and he was helping me, so the room is a bit in chaos, as it has to be when you're having a deep clean and a proper sort out. When he I reminded him on Wednesday that the funeral director was coming to the house on Thursday, he started to tidy, organise and clean the living room up, and cleaned out the parrots, without my asking! So that's something too. Usually I'd have to do it myself, or ask him to help and give specific chores.

I've felt really fragile, and tired, since the funeral director appointment. He was very nice and kind, and we've arranged the funeral date (12th Feb - dad passed on Feb 7th last year, he first offered the 7th, I declined automatically, then also said I'd prefer a Friday or Monday if possible, so it's easier for my friend and family to get time off to come, since they have to travel. My bestie is likely coming for the weekend before the funeral as emotional support and practical help. So lucky to have a friend like him, I really am. He was a rock during dad's funeral.

Felt super tired, and emotional after the meeting, have felt really wiped out and tired, I guess because it made it all feel real again. Felt like I felt the day mum passed. Almost in shock, numb, exhausted. But slept a fair bit Thursday and Friday, and had more energy today, so did the deep clean on my small tank, and will be doing more tidying and organising this evening. Especially since people will be coming to the house for the funeral, it's motivation to get this stuff done, especially on the weekends when I'm not constantly on the phone or answering calls.
I am just sad for no reason today. so I will be sad with you. The Sun will conjunct transiting Pluto in about 2 days, that's a whopper of a sad note astrologically speaking.

I'm so sorry :(
I hope you're doing better today! Sending hugs across the pond if wanted.
 
I'm alright. I've just been at a plateau on my itp treatment, and trying to get house ready to sell next summer by myself is a challenge, but I do have a couple of friends that can help when I am ready to get started. At least I have heat. I ran on a wood stove from fall 2011 til about 10 days ago, because crooked hvac companies said no, we can't get parts. Heater needed a clip. One honest company, $119, fixed and overall check for safety and I have heat. I should write him a great review. Keeping a woodstove going is a solid part-time occupation in cold weather
 
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Haven't been able to sleep last night, or so far tonight. Feel asleep for 2-3 hours this evening, so wide awake now, kinda.

Grieving isn't a linear process. Have to keep reminding myself of that. Of course I'm going to be crying more often and feeling like it's day one of losing mum all over again when I'm choosing flowers, looking at readings and trying to write a eulogy, and handling her belongings, deciding what to keep, and what to donate or throw out. It almost feels disrespectful doing it as well, like it's too soon... but another part of my brain is telling me that it needs to be done, my parents wouldn't want us to just leave everything untouched and sit around crying, and I don't want to spend all my time doing that either. I'm spending some of it doing that, absolutely. But I know the house needs to be functional for us to live in, and I have to find the paperwork to handle probate.

Tonight, I'm listening to sad funeral songs, which makes me emotional, but needs doing, and chatting with friends in different timezones.

Still so much to do... I am making progress, every day getting at least something, or a few things done, so trying to give myself credit for that. But the lists are out of control! Each task then leads to a bunch of other tasks that need doing before the first one can be approved, kind of issues.
 
I still feel very alone in this. :(

Have had a lot of support from friends and even strangers on here, which I'm so grateful for! Don't get me wrong. It's helped so much, when I desperately needed it, and I don't know what I might have done without that. I mean it. Thank you.

And my bro is trying, in his own way, to be supportive and helpful too. It's just the proper adulting stuff is being left in my hands, I have to accept that, and I don't feel very capable! Not much confidence in myself that I can handle it, then I'm beating myself up feeling that way. That I should be able to just get on and do it all, like real adults do, all the time! While they also juggle work, kids, and all the other issues life throws at all of us. So I should stop complaining and suck it up, and I shouldn't need any help.

At the moment, beyond experimenting with my antidepressant and putting me on a benzo for when I'm going loopy, everything else is a waiting list really. And I don't feel worthy of the help, I hate asking, feel like it's wasted on me, and I shouldn't need it.
 
Just set one task at a time, and at the end of that task don't follow the 5 that are attached. Assess whether you need a break

You're right, and thank you!

It's just getting organised really. I like ticking off tasks, and I used to have more organisational skills... but might be my executive functioning isn't at its best right now! I have a lot of random lists in random notebooks, which then makes it hard to find the one I need at the right time, and is confusing me.

But still, even with that, I have made baby steps forward, daily! And giving myself breaks when I need. Pixie and I went for a walk this morning despite it raining, and wandered around the park for an hour getting drenched, but that's what raincoats and wellies are for, right? And being a Spaniel/Collie cross, she loves it and has a great time whatever the weather! In fact, I think they even prefer when it's wet and muddy. The rain releases more scents into the air, you know?

You have a pack of dogs, don't you? So I'm sure you know! :)

It was nice! I enjoyed it, and we had some peaceful time to ourselves and fresh air, seeing the doggo happy makes me happy, and we briefly met a lovely collie/Springer cross named Mutley that got on really well with Pixie and vice versa, so that was nice, and promising for potential future dog fostering!
 
At the moment, beyond experimenting with my antidepressant and putting me on a benzo for when I'm going loopy, everything else is a waiting list really. And I don't feel worthy of the help, I hate asking, feel like it's wasted on me, and I shouldn't need it.
Everyone needs a hand once in a while and you need help going through this now. Nothing is wasted on anyone if they ask for help and get some. Keep eating well, sleeping regularly, and exercising daily, and just take it one day at a time. Maybe encourage your brother to go for a walk each day too because the exercise would help with diabetes and depression. You don't have to tell him that but maybe ask if he can take the dog for a walk in the morning and you take the dog out in the afternoon (or vice versa).

This isn't something anyone can go through quickly and you're basically doing it alone (brother is helping a bit but could do more). The average person would either have a lot more help from family or partner, or be asking for help from anyone. This is going to take time (probably years) to get over. You probably won't get over it completely but it does get easier with time. You just have to keep going one day at a time and do a little bit here and a little bit there.

Re: the funeral arrangements and flowers. What flowers did your mum like? Just get a bunch of them, (that's the flowers done). Play a song she liked and make a few nice comments and leave it at that. If other people want to say something, let them.
 
Everyone needs a hand once in a while and you need help going through this now. Nothing is wasted on anyone if they ask for help and get some.
Thank you! You've given me some really straight forward, practical, and empathetic advice for a long time now. I appreciate it so much!

I'm hard on myself. I've always been told that. And it must be true, because I'd never think or say those things about anyone else! If I were seeing someone else in the same situation, when I try to step outside myself and look in, I would never think "they're not worth helping, they're beyond help and a waste of limited resources that should be reserved for people more deserving". I'd never write off another human like that, or tell them they're weak, not a proper adult, not worthy of bothering with. That would be awful, and I wouldn't do it. Especially when they're genuinely trying! But struggling and need a hand.

But my own brain tells me that about myself all the time. Logically, I know that depression and anxiety causes a lot of those thoughts, and that they're just thoughts, not reality, and that the brain can be re-trained, create new neural pathways.

But emotionally, it still hurts and makes me worry a lot. I don't want to have to keep asking for help long term - my goal is to get on top of this, and reach a point where I can manage by myself again, as I used to. This is just a bit too huge, painful and difficult to manage alone. And you're right, most people have a partner, and/or other family members around who can help more with advice and practical stuff, while we don't have much in the way of close family left....

My parents had us late in life, and their siblings moved to different areas. Dad's sister never had kids, mum's sisters children were grown before I was born, so didn't grow up with cousins around either, since they all lived in different areas of the country. One auntie left, but she has dementia and has been bedbound for two years. Her stepdaughters are lovely people, being supportive and came for dad's funeral, and are coming for mums, and reminded me that we're family too, and we're welcome there anytime. It's just a little strange because since they were grown and raising their own families, and we only made daydrip visits on occasion, I didn't get to know them or their children well. But I appreciate them a lot, and would like to continue to build those relationships, hear their stories about mum and dad.

There's also our honorary Uncle, who was a lifelong family friend of my parents since he was 19, met them when they had their first aviaries and aquatics business. Love him to bits, and grateful for him - he was a rock at dad's funeral, and on Christmas Day - he arrived an hour after she passed... and having him here for the day helped so much. He's visited twice since as well - but he's also 78 now himself. So it's emotional when he does visit, brings up a lot of grief, and he can be accidentally tactless at times, even though he has a heart of gold and would never intend to upset anyone. It's good that we get to grieve together, I know that's healthy, but it's also exhausting. I wouldn't ask him for help with the practical stuff either, not at his age!

My closest friend has been my rock for about 25 years now, and is huge emotional support and source of advice, and getting my head straight, love him. But he's also a three hour drive away, so we can't get together, or easily pop over and help out. And that's about it for family and close friends nearby.

Keep eating well, sleeping regularly, and exercising daily, and just take it one day at a time.
Yes, I'm working towards all those things! Sleep is still erratic and elusive at the moment, but I'm eating more regular meals, and taking a multivitamin. I've lost a stone since mum passed, which is actually a good thing, I needed to shed a couple of stones. Agoraphobia is not good for the waistline! Also working towards more and more dog walks as a start. :) Both Pixie and I need that for physical and mental health reasons, and I feel guilty that she hasn't been getting walked often when mum was very ill. But determined to make it up to her!

The funeral is on a Monday, so that closest friend I mentioned is planning to come here on the Sat-Sun before the funeral too, and can help with last minute arrangements, giving lifts, and we will no doubt take our dogs on some adventures to somewhere fun for them. Pixie adores that friend of mine, since she's known him since she was a pup, and associates him with us going on fun adventures, like the dog friendly holiday we went on, where we spent a week in Cornwall, exploring all the villages, the beaches, the rivers and woodland...She had an absolute blast, we all did. We've decided we need to do another dog friendly UK holiday at some point. Once all this probate stuff is settled.
Maybe encourage your brother to go for a walk each day too because the exercise would help with diabetes and depression. You don't have to tell him that but maybe ask if he can take the dog for a walk in the morning and you take the dog out in the afternoon (or vice versa).

This is a very good idea! At the moment, because we don't have a car (although bro has an electric bike), and bro does the local shopping, and has been taking shopping trolley loads of stuff to the charity shops now and then. Lately, especially with the funeral approaching and people will be coming, I've been filling the trolley daily, and asked if he'd be okay taking a load a day, since there's so much stuff, and I'm the one sorting through and cleaning it all, and he can also get any grocery shopping at the same time. He's agreeable to that. It's not far, only up the road, but pulling those heavy load up there daily is a start anyway.

I really want to go with the Pix on all her walks, and I doubt bro would be happy if I asked him to do the shopping/charity shop thing, and walk the dog daily. But, he has mentioned going with me on walks before, or meeting up with me and Pix at the park once he's done the shopping, to help me work through the agoraphobia, since I find it easier when I'm with my dog, or with someone else. So I could invite him just as a friendly gesture/helping me out, rather than giving it to him as a chore, you know? More exercise for all three of us!
This isn't something anyone can go through quickly
This is also very true. Even if I do hire the probate legal service for £6,500, she said it can still take nine months to a year to get probate settled. So I cannot realistically expect to get it done myself within a month! I'm doing the best I can, that's all anyone can do. :)
This is going to take time (probably years) to get over. You probably won't get over it completely but it does get easier with time. You just have to keep going one day at a time and do a little bit here and a little bit there.

Yes, for sure! It's strange, almost like coming out of a fog. The last few years, since covid really, and moving back here since covid and dad breaking his hip, they gradually needed more and more help. Since losing dad, it was a fog of depression and grief for all of us, and could only take it day by day, but mum getting more ill then finally diagnosed snapped me out of the fog, but the entire focus was on looking after her as much as possible day by day, and the being the main point of contact for all the different medical and social work/hospice people, so I was super busy, and had no time or inclination to worry about myself, or my own future afterwards.

So now she's passed, it's like a chapter firmly closed, and everything is still and silent. The house feels empty and neglected, as it is, so there's sadness there too, that my family childhood home is in disrepair, but there are their touches and things everywhere. I'd like to fix it up the best I can, while also making it livable for my brother and I, and the pets, while we each recover from our own issues and grief, and handle the probate stuff. Give us time to recover, get things sorted, cleaned and organised, and figure out our own future plans. I don't think either of us would like to live together in this house for the rest of our lives...! Love him, but I like having my own space, and I'm sure he would too. But I'm also not ready to say goodbye to this home yet, and not sure what I'd like to do long term. I never was good at making plans for my own future.

On a lighter note, I've been re-watching old episodes of "How Clean Is Your House" that I haven't seen in years, as cleaning inspiration! Mum and I loved this show. While this house has too much furniture, clutter and knick knacks, and desperately needs redecorating -it was never anything like the places on that show! And it's a fun, entertaining, no nonsense show. Inspiring because if they can clean up the cesspits on that show (and actually picked up some decent cleaning tips from that programme!), then it makes your own place look easy in comparison. Same way some people watch Hoarders as motivation to do their own cleaning. :lol:

I'm on this episode right now, and it's mind boggling that people can live like this!
I was enjoying the show, until near the ten minute mark, this sexist husband openly admits to his 1950s attitude about cleaning and gender roles... I know this show is old, and he's a builder, but it isn't 1950s old! Household was husband and wife, who both worked, BTW. Him as a builder, her a graphic designer, and they had two daughters.

Just before the ten minute mark, he says, transcribed: "It's probably a male, entity. To think that women... it's women's prerogative to clean. When there used to be three women in the house, so I'm the only male. I go out and work and come home, and they haven't washed up or they haven't prepared anything. I don't like that."

Said with an attitude that shows he means it. Thinks it's his wife and daughters that should have maintained the house, since he's a man, and works. Nevermind that his wife also works, likely did the majority of the childcare, judging by his attitude, and the fact that his daughters were kids. Being raised in that messy, dirty, hoarder home, and with those two parents setting that example! I bet the daughters tried to clean up, but would have been reprimanded by the parents, so what could they do, and why is it their responsibility? Chores are one thing, and normal, healthy, expected. Contributing as members of the household, sure. But if the parents are a terrible example, and the house is a disaster, then the kids couldn't hope to make a dent in it anyway.

Just gross that he considers it all to be women's work. My dad was born in the last 1930s, and never had an attitude like that. He did all the food shopping and cooking, had no hesitation about buying "women's products" for my mum and I when needed, and would get stuck in if a cleaning job needed doing, or help out in general. He strikes me as the kind of father who regards spending time with his kids without his wife there as 'babysitting', and doing her a favour. My dad saw it as parenting, and loved spending time with us, showing us new things and teaching us stuff.

I really was lucky to have them as parents. That's a comfort. I'm grateful for them.
 
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What fish and shrimp do you currently have?

Just two tanks right now, although I'm setting up others soon. Right now just a 15.5g with my breeding pygmy cory colony, a gang of otos, and some endler females and fry. Then a 57g community tank at the moment, but will be torn down and given away once I have other tanks set up. A few elderly tetra I inherited from my dad, my larger cories (bronzes, two albino aeneus, six Sterbai, and some rescued spotted corydoras that are probably agassizs) two L181 plecos, my black mollies and babies, a blue gourami, and purple emperor tetra.

Shrimp wise I have some amanos, and a colony of neocaridina. I started with red cherry, added some blues, and now they throw all kinds of colours, and some wild types, which I quite like!
 
Oh, and plenty of all three most common pest snails. Malaysian trumpet snails, bladder/pond snails (my favourite, they're the cutest) and some tiny ramshorns.
 
Just two tanks right now, although I'm setting up others soon. Right now just a 15.5g with my breeding pygmy cory colony, a gang of otos, and some endler females and fry. Then a 57g community tank at the moment, but will be torn down and given away once I have other tanks set up. A few elderly tetra I inherited from my dad, my larger cories (bronzes, two albino aeneus, six Sterbai, and some rescued spotted corydoras that are probably agassizs) two L181 plecos, my black mollies and babies, a blue gourami, and purple emperor tetra.

Shrimp wise I have some amanos, and a colony of neocaridina. I started with red cherry, added some blues, and now they throw all kinds of colours, and some wild types, which I quite like!
Oh, and plenty of all three most common pest snails. Malaysian trumpet snails, bladder/pond snails (my favourite, they're the cutest) and some tiny ramshorns.
That's understandable. Let's hope you set up other tanks. What fish are you looking to add next when those new tanks are set up?
 
That's understandable. Let's hope you set up other tanks. What fish are you looking to add next when those new tanks are set up?

I haven't decided yet! I'll be transferring current fish, rehoming the endlers, and then we'll see! No solid plans yet, but no doubt will be getting some dwarf rainbows/psuedomugli of a couple of varieties, see whether I can spawn them.

My dream tank currently is a reasonably large tank, like 220-240L, heavily planted, with lots of nano fish, but in large numbers, like 25-30.

Have also wanted to set up a tank and see whether I can breed Corydoras hasbrosus the way I've bred Corydoras pygmaeus.

Might see whether I can find an adult male L181 plec and see if I can breed my two females.

But it's early days, and I may well change my mind! I also have soft spot for botiid loaches, so if I can swing a large enough tank separate from the cories, I'd love a gang 6 plus yoyo loaches, or pakistani, zebra, or dwarf chain like @seangee has, if they weren't so expensive!

But, there's no rush to stock, haven't even set up the tanks yet, and there will be fish store visits and research where I'll no doubt change my mind a dozen times! Oh, if I do the hasbrosus tank, or another similar nano tank (I count anything 20g or less as a nano) then I'll get some different, brightly coloured shrimp. I've always been drawn to the blues. And have a hankering for a long fin white bristlenose plec.
 

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