Now With Test Pics!new Fish Added To My Tank Die Within 24 Hours..

[deftuch]

I used that method and lost over a dozen fish....that was my first attempt at drip acclimation and he lasted almost 48 hours! Where as the others sometimes lasted not even 12.......

id suggest changing your supplier and add a small group of schooling/shoaling fish, this gives the fish a little added comfort when in a new tank if they have there own kind, id suggest some type of rasbora, whichever you prefer, if you get say 5 to 8 of them for example and they all die, you have a real problem, but il bet they will be fine

 

[MrsM]

I tried more than 1 at a time....i got 3 danio....all dead within 12 hours...... I knew i had a real problem after they died, 3 more danio died 3 guppy, 3 more guppy, 1 guppy another 1 more guppy and 2 mollies and 2 snails.......i think i need t drip acclimate as i had something in my tank sending the ph and hardness soaring....i tried to drip acclimate but didnt do it long enough due to a temp drop.... IF i do try to keep anymore fish ill acclimate via drip as this helped the fish last longer, but for now....ill experiment with a shorter airline for the drip and towels and paper bags to try keep some temp in the acclimate bowl...when i figure out how to keep temp, ill maybe try another fish....thanks for your advice though, anything is worth a try when it comes to my tank, i just cant throw in half a dozen neons n watch them die to.......

Oh and ive tried 4 different lfs......

 

[snazy]

Did you test the Ph of the water in which the fish came in? And what is the Ph of your tank water now?
There's something majorly different between your tank water and the LFS water. If the cory is alive, then it can't be highly toxic as the cory would be long dead. Could it be anything in your own water supply, like contaminated pipes or water coming through some old storage tank...I don't know..
To keep the temperature up while drip acclimate, you can use a small heater set on the same temp as the tank once there's enough water in the container you are using to drip acclimate. Also, you can temporary add an air pump as if you acclimate for longer, the drip may not provide oxygen fast enough. Test for ammonia at some stage just in case. I wouldn't worry if the temperature goes down to 22 degrees and you have no heater, as most fish, especially guppies have no problem with that temperature. You can put the fish in a bag after you drip acclimate them to your water and float it in the tank for another 15-20 minutes to equal the temperature, just make sure there's air in the bag and enough surface area when you close it.
I recently purchased red rili shrimp and the Ph of the water they came in was 6.6, mine is 7.4 and they are still alive after 3 days and getting braver so it can be done, just do it slow and carefully.
I also drip acclimated 6 laser corys in March that came in very low Ph, can't remember but 6.2-6.4 and they are still alive 7 months after. I've got a 16L bucket. The fish normally come in around a litre of water. I acclimate until the bucket is full to the top so in my case that's 1:16 ratio bag water to tank water. With the laser corys I had to take out water from the bucket at some stage as they came with 3-4 litres of water and the Ph hadn't equaled when the water reached the top of my 16L bucket. I kept taking water out and testing until it read 7.4, and then in the tank they went.
Normally, my local LFS water has nearly the same Ph as mine with a few exceptions in specialized tanks, so I don't bother doing such a long acclimation for these and haven't had a problem.
Another possibility is, if you don't count the snails, that there's a disease in the tank that kills the other fish but doesn't affect corys. One example of such disease is ich, but then the fish don't die so quick from it and get white spots on their body but it's something to consider as a possibility.

 

[MrsM]

i had a good look at the guppy this morning...no ich, i know for deffo that its not ich....

ive got an experimental bucket dripping away...after over an hour temp is still up, i sat the bucket on my laptop charger...all water is securely away from electricals!! it seems to warm the bucket and its sitting nicely at about 23 and a quater degrees.... every so often i remove some of the bucket water.....i think if i do this for another hour and the temp is still ok id be willing to try again at the weekend with a new fish, its WC/maintainence day and i dont want to get a new fish and then stress even more with WC's n what not...i have a small WC on a friday too just to keep the nitrates in check...so maybe get a fish on saturday...

when i dripped the guppy from saturday i put in a few drops of ammolock...just to keep ammonia down while he was in the bucket....was this the right thing to do..i did read to do it....

if it is a disease that kills other fish not cories...ill try a cory at the weekend.....

oh and i did test the lfs water it was 7.6 where as my water was possibly 8 or maybe more....(using strips)...an hour was wayyyyyy too short to acclimate him wasnt it......

 

[Aquascaper]

I would suggest getting 2 corys to make the number up to 3. If there was any aggression issues with the existing one adding 2 more will eliminate/reduce that for future additions.

Ask at the LFS what they're pH is and maybe take a sample of your water in to compare. That way you should be able to work out acclimatising them.

 

[MrsM]

thats a good idea...ill ask them what there ph is....

i think it was those plant bases that made my ph high...so if i do a few WC's surely it will come down again??....

anyway..best get the gravel cleaner out, thanks all ill keep updating for you

 

[snazy]

Corys wouldn't have any aggression issues with anything at all, so it's certainly not the cory killing the new fish
Are you sure it's a cory Only joking....
Corys is a good idea. If that's the case, the new ones should survive unless you bought them sick already.

 

[Aquascaper]

Any fish in a tank on its own that is suddenly introduced to another fish can display aggression/inquisitiveness which can harass the already stressed new arrival.

Just because 'normal' behaviour doesn't have these characteristics doesn't mean to say it wouldn't happen.

 

[MrsM]

ok im pretty sure its a julli cory...is it or am i a daft so n so....

 

[snazy]

Any fish in a tank on its own that is suddenly introduced to another fish can display aggression/inquisitiveness which can harass the already stressed new arrival.

Just because 'normal' behaviour doesn't have these characteristics doesn't mean to say it wouldn't happen.

I won't believe that with corydoras, even if I see it. Have you ever had corys?

 

[Aquascaper]

No I haven't kept corys but have observed them in friends tanks, have you kept or observed every cory ever born? To say that any species of animal will never show aggression/inquisitiveness or any other form of harassment under any circumstance is unbelievable.

If a fish is added to a tank alone and an established fish shows any unwanted attention, whether aggressive or inquisitive, this will cause stress which could contribute to that fish dying.

 

[MrsM]

so.....advice to myself is get another cory....they'll get on then...and plus "cory"(thats his name haha)will have a buddy!

also just checked on yorkshire waters site for my area...hardness is 18.56 and ph is 7.52....

 

[MrsM]

im assuming as i do WCs the high ph/hardness caused by the chinese crappy ebay plants(now removed) will come down to a more average/normal level....

i think for water ours in this area is quite hard but guppies platys, mollies and sword tails like the harder water right??? also if i drip acclimate(which im going to) any new fish i get will be properly acclimated to my tank water.......does this make sense or am i gibbering??

 

[snazy]

im assuming as i do WCs the high ph/hardness caused by the chinese crappy ebay plants(now removed) will come down to a more average/normal level....

i think for water ours in this area is quite hard but guppies platys, mollies and sword tails like the harder water right??? also if i drip acclimate(which im going to) any new fish i get will be properly acclimated to my tank water.......does this make sense or am i gibbering??

If there was anything changing the Ph of your tank water, then once you've removed the cause it will eventually settle down. Keep in mind that that something could fall in between the gravel and keep raising the Ph for quite a while.
Did you test your tap water? You need to put a glass of water to sit about 24 hours and then test it. If it's different than the tank water, there's something in the tank raising it.
As for fish liking higher Ph, not sure what yours is exactly, but 8-ish will be fine for platies, guppies, mollies and swordtails. Once they are properly acclimated, they'll be just fine if that's the cause for deaths. If you get yourself a male and a couple of females, their babies will have no problem being healthy in your water as they'll adjust from birth.
As for corys, I know it's been mentioned with good intention, but can anyone that has kept corys ever even think they can stress another fish?

 

[MrsM]

Im not sure about the corys temprement....but he was inquisitive of the guppy but the guppy did swim with him for a short time also, so im not sure it was the corys fault, but im deffo going to test ph of tap water that has been left out over night and ill re test tank water tomorrow....if theyre diff then something in my tank sent the ph up....ive done 3 water changes since taking the plants with stone bases out...im sure it will be getting lower now..

Also i ph tested my goldfish tank..... Its 7.4 ish...its alot lighter result on the test strip than the tropical tank.....

Going to set up water to test tomorow......

Glass 1) tap water
Glass 2) tap water with a dodgy stone base from an ebay plant
And a sample of tank water, taken from tank just before test... Well see how that goes.....