Why Do People Feel The Need!

[Gnatfish]

I'm glad people agree.. I've thought it for a long time one here, but always thought i would get bashed for mentioning it. Hence why i hid it in another thread.. hehe coward!!!!

Squid

Well you want the Betta ...enthusiasts to hear it. But then again, they are the ones that are gonna run after you with sticks...or jars.

 

[demonmagus]

you've got a point there, the only real problem being that other people do exist to buy bettas as well . The ones who keep them in the jars e.t.c.

 

[SuperColey1]

This would be a Charity like all the ones we donate to that pay people HUGE wages for administration and project working etc?

I have become very cynical about giving to charities, due to seeing so many vast sums of money being offered to people in the situations vacant sections of the papers.

(And all the huge advertising campaigns that they spend money on that could have been spent elsewhere)

I've gone completely off topic here and started ranting about things again. Sorry to you all and thank god I am back to myself. lol

 

[Miss Wiggle]

This would be a Charity like all the ones we donate to that pay people HUGE wages for administration and project working etc?

I have become very cynical about giving to charities, due to seeing so many vast sums of money being offered to people in the situations vacant sections of the papers.

(And all the huge advertising campaigns that they spend money on that could have been spent elsewhere)

I've gone completely off topic here and started ranting about things again. Sorry to you all and thank god I am back to myself. lol

yeah i'm well aware that a lot of charities are a rip off, but just a tiny bit of research will show you the decent ones. generally the best bet is to go for local charities rather than big nationals.

because of all the legislation about governments and charities being 'transparent' in they're dealings and the freedom of information act you can get your hands on they're records and financial dealings relativley easily.

note i also said to donate your time, not just your money...... if there's no charity your happy to give money to, take the time to research animal cruelty laws, spot things you think are incorrect and write to your mp about them, draw up petitions etc.

there is always something we can do.

 

[nukeonekitty]

Man I was counting on something witty...

 

[spudgun2k]

Man I was counting on something witty...

No fed up now, please change to the pretty yellow one as I will understand it better, and don't forget the little blue ones.

Thank you.

 

[nukeonekitty]

No fed up now... if I understood this I would change my profile.

 

[demonmagus]

I think he meant 'no, fed up now' like no I'm not going to give a witty reply, I'm fed up now.

there, you can continue your internet war

 

[nukeonekitty]

haha true... I'm done, sorry for being a jerk/thread hijacker.

 

[EDEN AQUARIUM]

Why do people feel the need to call a fish by its technical name! It frustrates me when people have the need to show off with the correct name for a fish, cant they give the common name?

here is an example. i obviously won't name the person:

But after Xmas I am hoping to get some heterandrias, and maybe some limia species, so I may change my mind

Now i have to google this as i have not read the fish bible to work out the actual fish here.
it was on a livebearers section so is not one of many fish it could be, just give the common name. to me it looks like the person is trying to show off there "fish knowledge"

cheers spuddy

Thats strangle I usually have to look at the fish and look up the fish "common name" to know exactly what fish they are talking about. The reason why scientific names are better than using common names are because people can have many common names for particular fish. Some fish don't really have a common name.

 

[Canis-Equus]

If you flip it on is head though..... use the 'common' name (in inverted commas since quite frequently although it may be common to you it may well not be to me), and i go to google for a Purple Spotted Eelfaced Catloachfishdog, i may well NOT find it... give me teh latin name and i stand a fighting chance using google.

I have spiney eels, and i have lots of them (compared to most people) - but the common name 'spiney eel' isnt going to help you identify which ones in particular i have nor what they look like.

Go and google for me, 'spiney eel' and then do another search for 'mastacembelus aral' or 'mastacembelus siamensis' or 'mastacembelus dayi' or 'mastacemeblus zebrinus'..... they are all quite different and whilst m. dayi is unlikely to get eaten by your average community tank inmates, m. zebrinus is TINY and might well!

I think if you want to keep, discuss and learn about the animals you keep you do need to know what they are REALLY called, or you cannot research them, and you cannot be sure you are discussing the same things with people.

And get firefox, often when reading fish forums i have a tab for the forum and a tab open for google and i frequently google for fishes i am not familiar with! Its not hard and for me its part of the interest in fishkeeping.

Em

 

[Captain Retardo]

Sorry but i didn't read the whole entire post through, but one reason i can think of latin names being better than common names, was when i wanted to buy a Bolivian Ram or Mikrogeophagus Altispinosus ( i must show off) and they only had common names as tags and I was looking for "Bolivian Ram" and after 10 minutes i couldn't find them, even though I saw them at the store a couple of days ago, i then saw a tank with Bolivian Rams in it, but they were called "Clown Ruby Cichlids", so now i know to look in the tank, instead of the tags, but it would still take long to find the fish im looking for if i did that.

Plus it is not that hard to memorize the latin names, i know all the latin names of my fish and a couple others i don't have, and it took me about 1 week to learn all that.

 

[Torrean]

A perfect example of why scientific names is important is as follows. I know many people don't like hybrids and that's ok ignore that part of this situation as it is irrelevant.

The jellybean parrot is a dyed blood parrot...and a small bodied pink convict...and a blood parrot X pink convict hybrid. I've been looking at these guys for a while and I don't know the scientific names for any of the jelly variants. If the scientific names where used in conjunction with any common names there would be a LOT less confusion about what species you have.

Also scientific names are a good way to weed out people who don't know much about the fish. If you ask a question about a fish and use it's scientific name to ID it then you know two things. Either the people who reply to your post will know lot's about your fish or they took the time to look up at least a little info (IE the scientific name) before posting. All in All a good thing. although you will get a much lower volume of answers.

 

[CFC]

Blood parrots dont have scientific names, they are man made hybrids and as such are not recognised by the scientific naming system.

Many of my fish have no official common name, but then most people have never heard of some them anyway

 

[OohFeeshy]

Well indeed, I had to use an obscure common name I'm not happy with for my profile for P. guttatus... African shovelnose? How's it shovelnosed? Dotted Catfish? Only when it's settled in, ie, when you can't see it, and how broad a name is that? You could call anything a dotted catfish, given enough imagination...