Oasis.

[ian]

Was you about when preasly hit the scene. Probably not, or quite young. But you still no about him and his influence.

no i wasn't, nor would i want to be. Elvis was influenced by other IMO, he didn't influence anyone after his death did he? He was a teen idol
A buzz, maybe. Katy perry is very popular and has certainly created a buzz with the teens. Has she changed the face of music? No. Has it affected what people wear? No. Same with oasis.
where is this buzz, that Katie Perry is creating? To be fair you cannot really compair

As for NWA, lol all you want, but if you know anything about music then you'll know they deserve there place in the music hakk of fame! And before you ask, I'm not just saying this because I'm a fan.

NWA?? 1 okish album (straight outta compton), at least oasis made 3 decent albums.

what i'm saying is, if you're a list person and look for critical acclaim, you will always, find an oasis album in the top 10.

and by the way, i said 1 album was ahead of its time, not the band!!!

 

[BadBadger]

I'm not saying they didn't create a buzz. But saying they themselves or an album they did was ahead of there time is really pushing it.

Ok maybe katy perry was a bad example. Look at miley cyrus/hannah montana (lol). Films, albums, books, merchandise and tv shows! Massive buzz. Not ahead of her time.

Edit: also seen rhcp... 4 TIMES love em. And I was going to comment on a post that had you tattoo up. A rhcp tat yeah?

my tattoo?
I;m a major RHCP fan, my favourite band and have been since I saw em at 16 in Liverpool 1991,

we'll have to give up on the OASIS one there music wasn;t ahead of its time infact it looked back but without being patronising you really had to be there!! ha ha It was craze that swept the nation

funny enough if you read anthony keidis book scar tissue he says that there was a period of time where Oasis were biggest thing in USA however they never get credited with that. I;ve never lived in States so couldn;t comment on that

http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/280712-ok-here-it-is-tattoos-behind-the-tanks/page__st__20
Pretty sure i've seen it one of the members

Yeah i totally understand that mate, just the "forward thinking" thing hit a nerve. Definately just revamping the existing manchester scene, stone roses, happy mondays etc etc...

I have read it but cant recall that bit. Might read it again actually. Gutted we wont be hearing any more from em

 

[BadBadger]

Was you about when preasly hit the scene. Probably not, or quite young. But you still no about him and his influence.

no i wasn't, nor would i want to be. Elvis was influenced by other IMO, he didn't influence anyone after his death did he? He was a teen idol
A buzz, maybe. Katy perry is very popular and has certainly created a buzz with the teens. Has she changed the face of music? No. Has it affected what people wear? No. Same with oasis.
where is this buzz, that Katie Perry is creating? To be fair you cannot really compair

As for NWA, lol all you want, but if you know anything about music then you'll know they deserve there place in the music hakk of fame! And before you ask, I'm not just saying this because I'm a fan.

NWA?? 1 okish album (straight outta compton), at least oasis made 3 decent albums.

what i'm saying is, if you're a list person and look for critical acclaim, you will always, find an oasis album in the top 10.

and by the way, i said 1 album was ahead of its time, not the band!!!

If you read above i took what i said back about Perry. However, in your opinion you shouldnt be able to comment on that. Your not a girl nor a teen.
That 1 album changed the face of music, i dont care if you like them or not, you cant really disagree.

 

[ian]

i can disagree because thats my opinion.

hang on a min, the buzz surrounding Perry, you said? I know you took it back, but i have eyes and ears and can read, and in all honesty and i'm not having a go, but there has been nothing since Oasis within the british music scene. What do we have now? Grime/Dubstep...Chipmonk!! OMG.

I'm sure somthing will come along soon. Maybe the uprise of McFly again

 

[BadBadger]

Its not a matter of opinion though. I hate oasis, but can't disagree with the fact they are very popular.

I also have ears, eyes and can read.

Yeah, maybe the british music scene isn't brilliant, but we have had arctic monkeys, kasabian, bloc party, mumford and sons. These bands are huge! Playing sold out concerts, selling millions of records and some marching there way into music history.

 

[ian]

to be fair the Monkey's held a buzz when they first stepped on the scene, but the second album was rubbish compared to the first and Alex Turner is a proper music snob. Which wasn't the arctic monkeys for me. They were raw on the first album and over produced on the second.

 

[BadBadger]

to be fair the Monkey's held a buzz when they first stepped on the scene, but the second album was rubbish compared to the first and Alex Turner is a proper music snob. Which wasn't the arctic monkeys for me. They were raw on the first album and over produced on the second.

Couldn't agree with you more. But when you think about it, there was no way they were ever going to top that first album so they had to try something a bit different. One of those brian wilson moments. Last of the shadow puppets was also a complete fail IMO.
I think "whatever people say I am...." Will still be played in 20 years time despite there failed follow up albums.

 

[ian]

see, IMO this is where Oasis won, because Definatly Maybe was a great album. Whats the Story, was better!

It takes a lot to do that in the music industry.

I agree on the last shadow puppets stuff, its strange really isn't it...i mean look at Bloc Party, great first album. I can't even remember the second. Mumford's album is great! They are great live as well. I hope the second album does the same. It takes some talent to do that. One of my fave albums of all time was 'O' by Damien Rice, a beautifully written album. Guess what, the second album was toilet.

One of my fave bands other than Oasis are the Beta Band, they are a band that were waaay ahead of there time. They influenced tons of todays bands and the bands will credit them. If you ever get chance, BadBadger, give them a whirl.

 

[BadBadger]

I've never denied the genius that is Noel Gallagher. Hes brilliant, the band are brilliant, just not my thing.

O was an awesome album but never even looked for the follow up tbh. Its upsetting when that happens.

Never heard of them mate, but i'll definately have a listen. Try to listen to as much as i can.
As for bands ahead of there time try and have a listen to some Biffy Clyro. Absolutely brilliant and way ahead of there time. Too much so that they never got radio time or a big deal and ended up having to change there style and release albums like "puzzle" and "only revolations", which are still great albums but nothing compared to the early stuff.
I'd try "Blackened Sky", or "Infinity Land" for something totally different! "warning: screaming and drop d tunning" haha

 

[ian]

do you know i bought infinity land after going to see snow patrol and they were promoting them and i listened to the album once, it wasn't my thing at the time. I might just give it another shot. Mon the Biffy!

 

[BadBadger]

Yeah it really is out there. I'd give blackened sky a try. Really mellow. And then you might get the biff bug!

 

[simonas]

see, IMO this is where Oasis won, because Definatly Maybe was a great album. Whats the Story, was better!

Now I;m not agreeing with you now Ianho!!!

Definately Maybe much better , I;m not a big fan of champagne supernove cast no shadow et al. I had digsys diner on in my car before what a tune!!!

 

[n3ont3tra]

I love Oasis. And I try to tell all my friends that they're great and they're all like 'oh, they did wonderwall, yeah they're alright'.
I hate wonderwall.
If I had to pick a favorite song it'd be Live forever.
I'm a huge arctic monkeys fan too. All their albums are great imo.

 

[chrisbassist]

Double posted like an idiot.
Sorry bout the long one...

 

[chrisbassist]

Wow, all I said was that they weren't really ahead of their time, I didn't expect to start an argument.

It doesn't mean they were bad. They were a good band, much loved by millions of people. They wrote good songs and had an image which sold. Their songs have inspired hundreds if not thousands to pick up guitars and write music, their sound and lyrics were copied and adapted by many other bands making them one of the most influential bands of the last 25 years. Or maybe more.

But was what they did something the world wasn't ready for? Were they really that far ahead? Or had the beatles already done something similar? Granted not exactly the same, and they're not the only band who were influenced by the beatles. The fact is it was a fairly smooth progression from where music was before them to the music they played. And I'm not saying the beatles were. The first either. I'm not old enough to remember the state of music before the beatles but I'm sure if you look hard enough there was probably another act somewhere with a similar sound which they took and made their own. That's just how music works.

And who said elvis didn't influence anyone after his death?!?!?!

Personally I can't stand oasis, but that's my own opinion, but even I as a non believer give them credit where it is due, but just because you're a fan it doesn't mean they should be recognised for things they didn't.

I'm with those who say RHCP. Especially the uplift mofo party plan.