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Hullo, sorry for vanishing again, I just needed a break. Missed many of you though <3

Thank you so much everyone for the kind words and prayers. It does mean a lot to me. We're meeting with the funeral directors today, so it's going to be a very hard one. I'm trying to focus on cleaning and tidying the house since they're coming here due to mum's medical issues and distress, rather than us going to the funeral home, so want to make sure it's fit for guests, and I'm finding that focusing on the practical things helps keep my mind from wandering and easier to try to stay strong.

Took Pixie for a long walk in the drizzling rain yesterday, with a wonderful neighbour who knew dad for years from us all walking our dogs over the park. She's been a wonderful support, offering any help, has visited us, burst into tears when I called to let her know about dad's passing, she was very fond of him and sincere when she's always offered any help we might need since he broke his hip in 2021, and she missed him coming on our dog walks. She lost her elderly dog a few months ago too, we lost our elderly spaniel about a year ago, and she also lost her nan last year and had to struggle through the nightmare of estate and funeral sorting while you're rocked with grief. I'm so sorry for all her losses and pain, but it also means we're really connecting in our empathy for what we're going through.

Dad was good at making friends. He loved to be independent, and met many people while walking their spaniel twice a day and going to the shops up the road daily. Dog walkers who all use the same park at the same time often chat as we walk around and the dogs play and explore, so there are a lot of friendly neighbours here that knew him and offered help after he broke his hip and couldn't join me on walks or pop to the shop anymore.
Dad worked so hard on his mobility because he missed that so much, and did amazing for a man in his mid-eighties! He needed to use a rollator, but within a week of his hip operation he was home and able to do the stairs (with my brother and I on either side of him at first, just in case!), could get around the house using a zimmer frame or using grab handles/bannisters/kitchen counters for balance support and safety when he needed it. Within a few months he could talk short walks on the street outside the house, and did that daily, pushing himself to do a little more each time to build his stamina. After six months or so he was able to join me on a walk with Pixie since the park is only across the street from us, so he could come and sit on a bench while I walked around with Pixie. He was so happy on that first walk! He loved seeing her running around playing, rolling in the grass and coming over to see him on the bench to beg for a treat and fuss. All the regular local dogs also recognise him as the man who always has dog treats in his pocket, so come bounding over to him to see him and collect their treat! (only with owners permission of course). He pushed himself to go further and further, resting on the benches when he'd had enough and enjoying chatting with other people and fussing their dogs, and watching as I went and walked around with Pixie and threw balls and leaves for her, then I'd meet back up with him and we'd walk home together. He couldn't do it daily, but he loved it and was joining us more and more often, and gained enough stamina to do short walks to the shop and back daily to get his paper and milk using his rollator.

Pixie had a great time yesterday, she's a springer/Border Collie/Mutt mix, mainly Springer Spaniel, so she loves running around in the rain and mud, pushing through the hedges and wading into muddy puddles! She got thoroughly soaked, very muddy, and had a great time doing it. Meant she had to go straight into the bath when he got home, which she doesn't love as much, but she was due for a bath anyway, and was such a good girl about having a thorough shampoo and wash, and gets the happy zoomies after like many dogs do! She has fun with the drying off part anyway, and she's now beautifully clean, silky and fluffy.

Dad adored Pixie, he loved her just as much (or maybe even more!) than he loved me. So while it was hard and emotional to cry for an hour while walking in the rain, that dad wasn't there and my neighbour and I both cried and sometimes stopped to sob and hug, it was good to be able to cry without Pixie being aware and getting upset (she cuddles up close to me and comforts me when I cry, and she's uncannily good at reading my face and moods) and since she's my shadow and follows me everywhere but the bathroom, I've been trying to get my sobbing out while I'm in the shower or bath when I can, so I don't upset her too much. Pixie adored dad too. I'm her favourite person in the world, she's always been that way since she was a pup, but dad was her clear second favourite. When he was cooking she'd have nothing to do with me! Would hang out with him and watch carefully for any dropped bits to hoover up, or to be given the odd bite he'd give her!
Years ago while I was working long hours and while dad was still very independent and mobile, they'd be my doggy daycare and look after Pixie for me, dad walking both her and Jack over the park, so she's very bonded to him too, and misses and looks for him. She's a bit anxious about the changes in her routine and looking for him at times. Whining for him in the morning since he used to collect her from my room when he woke up at 6-7am, let her out to pee and she'd hang out with him while he had breakfast and read his paper, and I had the coffee I need to become human and showered, then got ready for the day. She misses him, and her and I bringing him a cup of tea when he always woke at around 1am, and she'd have a play and fuss from him after leaping on their bed and licking his face, making him laugh and fuss her, which only made her do it more.
Those little routine family moments not happening anymore, and not being able to tell her where he's gone, is so hard. But he also loved us both so much, he would have taken a bullet for either of us, I know. So while all I want to do is lie in bed and sob my heart out, scream at the world that it's not fair that he's gone, that I need him and miss him desperately; I know what he would do, and that's doing everything he could to take care of us, even as I was also caring for them more and more in daily life. He would want me to cry when I need to, but that I need to be strong and push through it to take care of mum, for my bro and I to support her and each other, and for me to do anything I can to help them, to take care of the animals and house, and do what needs to be done, and I promised him that I would.

Dad would have wanted for me to be going on those walks with our neighbour friend, to be looking after Pixie and her needs, that Pixie had so much fun. I know that things like this will help me process my grief and get through the days, one step at a time.
 
Thank you so much everyone for the kind words and prayers. It does mean a lot to me. We're meeting with the funeral directors today, so it's going to be a very hard one. I'm trying to focus on cleaning and tidying the house since they're coming here due to mum's medical issues and distress, rather than us going to the funeral home, so want to make sure it's fit for guests, and I'm finding that focusing on the practical things helps keep my mind from wandering and easier to try to stay strong.

Took Pixie for a long walk in the drizzling rain yesterday, with a wonderful neighbour who knew dad for years from us all walking our dogs over the park. She's been a wonderful support, offering any help, has visited us, burst into tears when I called to let her know about dad's passing, she was very fond of him and sincere when she's always offered any help we might need since he broke his hip in 2021, and she missed him coming on our dog walks. She lost her elderly dog a few months ago too, we lost our elderly spaniel about a year ago, and she also lost her nan last year and had to struggle through the nightmare of estate and funeral sorting while you're rocked with grief. I'm so sorry for all her losses and pain, but it also means we're really connecting in our empathy for what we're going through.

Dad was good at making friends. He loved to be independent, and met many people while walking their spaniel twice a day and going to the shops up the road daily. Dog walkers who all use the same park at the same time often chat as we walk around and the dogs play and explore, so there are a lot of friendly neighbours here that knew him and offered help after he broke his hip and couldn't join me on walks or pop to the shop anymore.
Dad worked so hard on his mobility because he missed that so much, and did amazing for a man in his mid-eighties! He needed to use a rollator, but within a week of his hip operation he was home and able to do the stairs (with my brother and I on either side of him at first, just in case!), could get around the house using a zimmer frame or using grab handles/bannisters/kitchen counters for balance support and safety when he needed it. Within a few months he could talk short walks on the street outside the house, and did that daily, pushing himself to do a little more each time to build his stamina. After six months or so he was able to join me on a walk with Pixie since the park is only across the street from us, so he could come and sit on a bench while I walked around with Pixie. He was so happy on that first walk! He loved seeing her running around playing, rolling in the grass and coming over to see him on the bench to beg for a treat and fuss. All the regular local dogs also recognise him as the man who always has dog treats in his pocket, so come bounding over to him to see him and collect their treat! (only with owners permission of course). He pushed himself to go further and further, resting on the benches when he'd had enough and enjoying chatting with other people and fussing their dogs, and watching as I went and walked around with Pixie and threw balls and leaves for her, then I'd meet back up with him and we'd walk home together. He couldn't do it daily, but he loved it and was joining us more and more often, and gained enough stamina to do short walks to the shop and back daily to get his paper and milk using his rollator.

Pixie had a great time yesterday, she's a springer/Border Collie/Mutt mix, mainly Springer Spaniel, so she loves running around in the rain and mud, pushing through the hedges and wading into muddy puddles! She got thoroughly soaked, very muddy, and had a great time doing it. Meant she had to go straight into the bath when he got home, which she doesn't love as much, but she was due for a bath anyway, and was such a good girl about having a thorough shampoo and wash, and gets the happy zoomies after like many dogs do! She has fun with the drying off part anyway, and she's now beautifully clean, silky and fluffy.

Dad adored Pixie, he loved her just as much (or maybe even more!) than he loved me. So while it was hard and emotional to cry for an hour while walking in the rain, that dad wasn't there and my neighbour and I both cried and sometimes stopped to sob and hug, it was good to be able to cry without Pixie being aware and getting upset (she cuddles up close to me and comforts me when I cry, and she's uncannily good at reading my face and moods) and since she's my shadow and follows me everywhere but the bathroom, I've been trying to get my sobbing out while I'm in the shower or bath when I can, so I don't upset her too much. Pixie adored dad too. I'm her favourite person in the world, she's always been that way since she was a pup, but dad was her clear second favourite. When he was cooking she'd have nothing to do with me! Would hang out with him and watch carefully for any dropped bits to hoover up, or to be given the odd bite he'd give her!
Years ago while I was working long hours and while dad was still very independent and mobile, they'd be my doggy daycare and look after Pixie for me, dad walking both her and Jack over the park, so she's very bonded to him too, and misses and looks for him. She's a bit anxious about the changes in her routine and looking for him at times. Whining for him in the morning since he used to collect her from my room when he woke up at 6-7am, let her out to pee and she'd hang out with him while he had breakfast and read his paper, and I had the coffee I need to become human and showered, then got ready for the day. She misses him, and her and I bringing him a cup of tea when he always woke at around 1am, and she'd have a play and fuss from him after leaping on their bed and licking his face, making him laugh and fuss her, which only made her do it more.
Those little routine family moments not happening anymore, and not being able to tell her where he's gone, is so hard. But he also loved us both so much, he would have taken a bullet for either of us, I know. So while all I want to do is lie in bed and sob my heart out, scream at the world that it's not fair that he's gone, that I need him and miss him desperately; I know what he would do, and that's doing everything he could to take care of us, even as I was also caring for them more and more in daily life. He would want me to cry when I need to, but that I need to be strong and push through it to take care of mum, for my bro and I to support her and each other, and for me to do anything I can to help them, to take care of the animals and house, and do what needs to be done, and I promised him that I would.

Dad would have wanted for me to be going on those walks with our neighbour friend, to be looking after Pixie and her needs, that Pixie had so much fun. I know that things like this will help me process my grief and get through the days, one step at a time.
I just read all of that... Wow Belle. I'm so sorry for the loss of your father. He seemed like a great man. I can't even imagine the hurt you feel right now, and I know you are probably asking yourself if "it could ever get better". In due time it will. But as the pain is still being felt strongly, remember that you have a really good friend along with your brother to help you through this time. And if you need to message me, you can. I won't mind in the least.
My prayers are with you and your family at this time. I really hope that eventually it gets better, although, I know nobody can get over the loss of somebody so close to them in a short amount of time. I wish I could just give you a hug. Seems like you need it.
 
Purely practical -

Undertakers are very kind and considerate. They know what you are going through and will do everything to help you. When my mother died 4 years ago they went through every aspect of what they needed to do (even down to things like where did we want her body until the funeral, open coffin for viewing or closed coffin) and even arranged a visit from the minister so he could discuss the actual funeral service.
Discuss everything you need to, what your options are, ask them if there's anything you've not thought of. I know it's difficult, I've been there. They are professionals who are there to help you through this difficult time.
 
You were right @Essjay , the funeral director was great, very compassionate and kind. It was hard to keep it together, but I only properly broke once, when she began talking about the service and talking about his life - that part made me sob. But I pulled it together since this needs to be done, then had a good cry afterwards.

The funeral will be the 20th March.

I now have a lot more items on list of things to do... man, there's so much involved with planning a funeral and a wake. I've gone through his wardrobe and put together the clothes he'll be dressed in. That was hard and emotional too. Mum said we'll have to sort through his wardrobe and decide what items we may want to keep, which to donate and what to throw, but I'm not ready to do that yet, and I don't think she is either, to be honest. She found today very hard as well, didn't really want to make many decisions and tearful throughout, understandably.

My brother didn't have much to say input wise either, so a lot fell to me, and mum said she wanted me to make many of the choices, so I just tried to suggest what I thought dad would want, and see if they agreed. Like he'd want to be dressed, not in a gown from the funeral home. He was particular about always wearing a shirt, tie, and cardigan or jacket and dress trousers if he was out and about. He didn't have a suit, but I've picked out what I hope is an outfit he'd approve. Mum was clear that she didn't want to pass and touch/place a flower on the coffin or visit the funeral home for a viewing... I don't either. We don't want to remember him that way.

Lots of things to do. Arranging flowers, choosing an urn, finding and selecting photos of dad, writing the death notice and eulogy, choosing music, planning where to hold a wake and provide food, letting everyone know the date and place for the funeral...

Between rushing around doing a load of cleaning this morning and the emotions of the day, I'm exhausted. I've spoken to my cousin and aunt (more tears from all of us) so they're letting some more of the extended family know, but I think I'll call one more friend today, then leave the rest until tomorrow. Sorry for writing all these super long comments. It's just a way to help me process, it's sort of therapeutic writing it all out, and also means I can update the friends I have here in one go, rather than sending several pms.
 
Also, holy heck, funerals are expensive. Even keeping it as simple as possible, as dad requested, it's £4,871, and that's before the cost of flowers and the wake.
 
Also, holy heck, funerals are expensive. Even keeping it as simple as possible, as dad requested, it's £4,871, and that's before the cost of flowers and the wake.
Same here. A funeral is very expensive. Cremation only has gone up in price dramatically. I don’t get that at all. When my Dad passed in 2003 it was $800 bucks cremation only , no service. They put his ashes in a heavy paper bag. Today that same deal is $1800 dollars. I don’t get that at all.
 
Also, holy heck, funerals are expensive. Even keeping it as simple as possible, as dad requested, it's £4,871, and that's before the cost of flowers and the wake.
Little morbid tip - not sure if you've decided on where you are having the ceremony but check if it is a local authority or private company, it's not always immediately obvious, as they are named to sound like local authority but you'll find a disclaimer or a little logo somewhere. We were able to find a loophole that helped us out when we went through it but I also found if we had chosen another cemetery close by for the ceremony would have been 1/4 of the price and reasonable prices for the memorial. Sorry for the rant but the private funeral trade in the UK is pretty disgraceful these days and it grinds my gears, to say the least.
 
Exhausted from a difficult and tiring day, both physically and emotionally, but can't switch my brain off and need distracting. I've been listening to music dad loved and I listened to as a kid, having the thought in mind of the music pieces we need to pick for the funeral. Dad didn't have any plans or requests other than cremation, and "don't make a fuss and spend a ton of money, keep it simple", as I expected from him. Mum is still too distraught to think about it and doesn't have anything in mind yet.

This one isn't one for the funeral since it centres on me, and I'd prefer something that reflects him and resonates with everyone there.

But for me, it makes me think of my dad so much.
I do remember him teaching me how to ride a bike, being over protective at every life stage. But stepped back when he knew I was okay and could do it, but made sure I knew that he was always, always braced and willing to catch me when I needed him.

I did whisper into his ear while in the hospital that it was okay for him to let go. That I didn't want him to go and loved him so much and would miss him every day - but promised that I would keep going, look after the rest of the family, and that I'd recover from my depression and get better, for him.

He was fully cognizant that he was terminal, but wasn't in pain and was so damn brave. More worried about us than himself, as he always did. We were lucky in a sense that we had that time to tell him the things we really wanted to, the important things, and he could do the same. I do feel grateful and blessed for that, and that he wasn't in pain and it wasn't a long drawn out illness either. He'd have hated that.

I still don't feel ready for him to let go and not have him here. It still doesn't feel real, and the world just doesn't make sense without him in it.
 
After being raised Christian but gradually turning agnostic and then atheist for about two decades now. But I'm seriously reconsidering. I am praying to any gods that can hear me to please look after him, that he's happy and at peace, has joined his sister and mum, and is with the pets we've had that have crossed the rainbow bridge. Imagining him seeing and cuddling Jack, our spaniel who passed last year, and the joy they'd both have at being together again brings me a lot of comfort. I don't want to think he could just be gone. Something of him, who is, has to still be here, and I swear I can feel him at times.
 

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I know I've never talked to you on here but you are SO tough and strong. Just know your being thought of through-out this forum. Hang in there and I can tell, as I'm sure you can, you are very loved! I definitely cried at the stories and memories. Can't imagine losing my dad. He, like yours, is my rock and my best friend. I can tell him anything!

Sorry for your loss!
 
I know I've never talked to you on here but you are SO tough and strong. Just know your being thought of through-out this forum.
This reply means a lot to me, thank you!! I've just been pouring it out in an attempt to process it, and I often forget just how many people lurk and read without commenting much. Nothing wrong with that! There are places online where I'm not a member and just lurk, but even just reading and lurking, you get to know the regular posters over time.

I really don't feel tough and strong! :sad: I'm a trembling wreck. The first few days I'd get so distraught it made me have to run to the bathroom and throw up. But also no appetite to eat at all, and vomiting on an empty stomach is the worst! I do have anxiety and panic attacks, but I've never been sick as a result of being upset! I was shaking throughout the time we were planning the funeral, broke into sobbing at one point, then when she left went to have a shower and cried throughout.

But my dad was the strongest and most capable man I knew. Always wanted to be doing something with various projects on the go, incredibly hard working, and while not good at expressing his emotions verbally, he was a complete softie at heart and showed his life by taking care of people, cooking for them, putting the kettle on and offering good advice when someone had a problem, and would rescue stray and injured animals and teach my bro and I how to nurse them back to health when we could.

Sorry, I'm rambling down memory lane again. I can't write how much he meant to me, and what an amazing, loving person he was. I got very lucky with having great parents, I know and am grateful that I had that. The strength comes and goes. I know this stuff has to be done. I want to honour my dad and fulfill my promises to him, and my mum is so devastated and taking it very hard (we all are), so I have to pull myself together and get this stuff done. I'm writing a lot of lists and ticking things off. But I can only face so many phone calls or research about how to arrange a wake before I need to take a break from it and talk to friends/vent here, or go and break down in the shower. Sobbing sessions are still happening multiple times daily. It's going to take time, and I'll always miss him.


Hang in there and I can tell, as I'm sure you can, you are very loved!
Aaaww, thank you! I've certainly been lucky when it comes to family and friends. Treasuring them now especially. I hope you have that too!
I definitely cried at the stories and memories. Can't imagine losing my dad. He, like yours, is my rock and my best friend. I can tell him anything!

Sorry for your loss!

I'm so sorry for making you cry! I hope you get as much or more time with your rock and best friend as I did! I could never face the thought of him passing away... anytime he'd bring up the topic I'd protest and mentally block the thoughts. I couldn't imagine him not being here, it hurt too much to even think of it.
Talk to your dad and treasure him while you have him. One of my regrets is that dad never talked about his childhood, his army and merchant navy days, nothing really. He always focussed on the here and now, and planning stuff for the future. I wish I'd pushed him a bit more to share, and now I can't ask him.

Make as many happy memories as you can!
 
I don't know how to do this. I feel totally inadequate and overwhelmed. Even trying to organise just the wake and who is travelling with us to the crematorium, and arranging for a second car is another £300 (?) but we can't just ask them to drive their own car to save us money, since that would be snubbing family we love and wouldn't want to offend. On the other hand, we're already at close to £5,000 total and haven't accounted for flowers, the wake and a second funeral car.

Mother and brother are worried about the cost, and how we sort out dad's bank stuff/estate/the morgage/any bills that were coming from his account, and we obviously can't use any of that money until the probate/estate stuff is sorted, and mum doesn't even know whether there's anything left to pay on the morgage, or where the paperwork and the deed are... dad didn't leave a will, so I don't know the legalities of sorting out inheritance tax/bank stuff, and I'm more focused on trying to sort the practical funeral arrangements and telling everyone when and where the funeral is, and each phone call is emotional and difficult.

So a lot of the funeral costs are going to have to come out of mum's savings, at least until dad's stuff is sorted out. Mum doesn't want to be involved in the funeral planning and decisions/calls etc, only informed really. She doesn't mind my asking her opinion on which flower arrangement to choose etc, but always seems to default to "I can't decide, I'll leave it up to you". Bro isn't any help really with knowing funeral etiquette either, I've just been googling and reading, and being told things by family when I'm making the arrangements. So a lot of the funeral planning itself is falling on me, which is fine, I'm happy to do it - but even a simple thing like whether other family flowers should be on the coffin because they want that, but we've already said family flowers only, or donations to charity, and chose the RSPB because dad was a bird lover and supporter of the RSPB.

Every tiny thing just leads to more things added to my to-do list and more calls to make, upsetting mum when talking to her about it, feeling bad about making all the decisions myself, especially when those choices cost money, so I'd rather consult both of them. But then it upsets mum, and brother worries about the costs, but doesn't understand that we can't just skip having a wake or putting flowers on the coffin.

Along with all this I'm trying to balance my own grief, my own mental health issues that make me easily overwhelmed with doing all this stuff, and taking care of the house and meals for everyone since I'm the only one who can cook. But I have zero appetite myself, so rarely eating even when I make meals for them, but I know I should start eating more often so I don't run myself into the ground. It's just all getting too much, and I want to crawl back into bed and cry.
 
Firstly you have my sincere condolences for the loss of your Father.

Always tough to deal with when you are specifically closer the one who passes away.

In regard to the funeral, have you considered a direct cremation?

They can be done with a service now...so close family and/or friends can say their goodbyes, and then have a wake at home or in a restaurant or elsewhere that your Father used to frequent on a regular basis and at a time when everyone can attend (its not always easy to get everyone in the same place on the same day, so many people - myself included when I lost a very dear friend who was without family, I did a direct cremation and then all friends met up the following weekend to remember the good times, to celebrate them and, of course to have a damned good cry. It might be alot easier on yourself mentally and the family financially perhaps.

If you go for the full funeral, all funeral companies offer installment schemes that ease the financial burden...you don't have to pay out everything at once or infront or directly after the funeral...and a good funeral director will also assist with making the arrangements and ensuring that everyone is on the same page in regard to flowers, charity donations and so forth.
 
Good advice, there. I'm so sorry you're going through this, Adora. I don't know if this is helpful, but here's what I think: Keep things as simple as possible. Ask people to drive their own car to the funeral to save on costs. Insist that people make donations instead of bringing flowers, and maybe let them share at the memorial or the wake what they gave to and why that particular charity means a lot to them/your family/the memory of your dad. Make it clear that, if they bring flowers anyway, they will be displayed but not on the coffin. I don't know all the etiquette with wakes, especially in England, but just keep it simple.

I'm not advising you to be selfish and ignore everyone's wishes. But this is supposed to be about saying goodbye, not meeting every whim, however emotionally and financially costly, of everyone who knew and loved him. If other people forget what this is really about, that is their problem, not yours. If anyone seems upset with you about some silly detail, sweetly thank them for their willingness to help and inform them that they are welcome to take care of that little detail themselves, including the financial cost. Then forget about it.

For what it's worth, I think you are being very courageous and doing very well. There is no easy way to get through these times. As Robert Frost said, "The best way out is always through." So get through it. Keep it meaningful, keep it simple, and don't be afraid to let some details go.
 

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