Dave`s Pre Journal Journal

Too bad you don't live in a warm climate, I just chuck my cuttings in tubs outside and it grows in the sunlight.

Curse your sunshine and cold beer. If I put my Hydro. outside in a tub right now it would be buried under a foot of snow. Still, I have just whupped my three kids in a snowball fight, so it can`t be all that bad.

On the downside, I was expecting one or two things from AE today, but the snow put paid to that delivery.

How is the 8G going, it was really starting to look good? An update with pics would be wizard.

I agree with Sam though, patience is for pants wearing pansies!

Sam, why don`t you give up your nano and give me your rocks? :hyper: Just joking, they look great in your tank. I was going to go rock hunting today, but Mother Nature decided otherwise.

Let`s hope I can post some pictures tomorrow of my bag of ADA Aqua Soil and CO2 dropper. Bet you lot can`t wait!

Cheers, Dave.
 
Still, I have just whupped my three kids in a snowball fight, so it can`t be all that bad.
:lol: They are good for something then, the wonder of kids :lol: home alone unfortunately so no fun to be had at mine.

Sam, why don`t you give up your nano and give me your rocks?
Hands off my rocks, they are the only thing going for my nano at the moment! :shifty:

Sam
 
Too bad you don't live in a warm climate, I just chuck my cuttings in tubs outside and it grows in the sunlight.

Curse your sunshine and cold beer. If I put my Hydro. outside in a tub right now it would be buried under a foot of snow. Still, I have just whupped my three kids in a snowball fight, so it can`t be all that bad.

On the downside, I was expecting one or two things from AE today, but the snow put paid to that delivery.

How is the 8G going, it was really starting to look good? An update with pics would be wizard.

I agree with Sam though, patience is for pants wearing pansies!

Hmmm, I wonder...I'm not the one dealing with algae! :hyper: :p Though in all fairness, I have dealt with it in the past.

My 8g looks pretty much the same as it did in my last update back in January. The benefits of going low-tech, it always looks the same! :lol: I'm coaching the A. reineckii to grow smaller leaves by pinching the tops, and it seems to be working very well. I have a bunch of dwarf platy fry now, so something must be going well with the water chemistry. I have pictures of the fry in a thread over in the livebearer section. So you don't have to search through threads, look below. I hate searching too. I found a source for corydora pygmaeus, so those will go in with the platies pretty soon, if they look good to me.

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Yes, sunshine and cold beer, the best things in life! I do not envy you and your cold weather, I'm taking a 2-week trip to Illinois in late February to take my Doctoral exams and the weather reports from the area are not encouraging.

Sorry for the hijack, but you wanted a photo. I really like the ideas for your new tank, I think it'll work well. Another option for the microspecies is boraras brigittae, which have done well for me in the past. Not as flashy as those galaxy rasboras, but a nice fish and much cheaper. Sam's kept the species, or did he keep B. maculatus, with no luck. :p His kept committing suicide. Mine never jumped. George has kept another type of micro-rasboras. Pygmy corydoras should work well too.

llj
 
They sure did the dam things! :p B.brigittae is another nice looking fish, I prefer the maculata but thats personal taste.

Sam
 
Thanks for the info on those fish guys, they are all nice and have got me thinking.

Anyway, the venerable Royal Mail managed to fight their way through today`s blizzard to deliver the following from AE.

This picture is of my Boyu drop checker.

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The purpose of this strange snail like piece of glass is to give me a good indication that my tank CO2 levels are running at 30ppm. It is done by adding a few drops of the liquid in the green capped CO2 test bottle to the bulb on the left of the dropper ( I actually use the drops from my Nutrafin pH test kit, but more of this later). Then you need to add a few drops of reference solution at a carbonate hardness of 4dKH, which is basically RO water with some BiCarb added until 4dKH is reached. The 4dKH reference solution is pure, without any unwanted influence on its pH, unlike using tank water, so adding the test drops to the solution we should see a dark blue colour (mine went beyond the upper colour scale of pH 7.6 on my Nutrafin chart).

When the dropper is fitted below the water level in the tank, an air gap is trapped between the tank water surface and the reference solution. What happens now is that the amount of CO2 in the tank water will, over the period of an hour or two, equalise with the CO2 in the dropper air gap, and thus affecting the reference solution. The colour of the reference solution should change from blue to green, with green corresponding to a pH of 6.6 on the Nutrafin chart. Correlating a carbonate hardness of 4dKH against a pH of 6.6 and we get a CO2 level of 30ppm. If the solution remains blue then CO2 levels are too low, and if it goes beyond green and turns yellow then CO2 levels are too high.

The next picture shows a Clearseal aquarium base mat from my LFS which the tank will sit on to ensure the whole of the base is supported when sat on the cabinet. The large silvery bag on the right is ADA Aqua Soil Powder, the Rolls Royce of substrates according to experienced aquatic gardeners. I am really looking foreward to seeing the results from using this stuff, because it will probably represent the biggest change between my current 120l and this new project.

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So, why do I use the Nutrafin pH test drops as opposed to those that came with the CO2 dropper? Well, I am fortunate enough to work at a power station where millions is spent on water analysis. By comparing my Nutrafin kit against the lab results at work I can say that it is quite accurate, or rather, my interpretation of the test kit colours isn`t too far off the mark, so I prefer to stick with a known quantity.

I feel I should also mention the accuracy of the JBL KH test kit. My 4dKH is, in my opinion, a very accurate reference, having prepared this using very accurate measuring equipment and exceptionally high quality RO in the work`s lab. I added four drops of the test kit and the water was still blue, but by adding the slightest fraction of a drop more and the water turned yellow. So, I believe this test kit can be considered to be pretty accurate as well. Its just a shame I rarely need to use it.

I hope this wasn`t too boring a rant, but the full info on using a 4dKH reference can be found here, for anyone that is still awake. It has a nice picture of the drop checker in action, too:

http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=169942

Cheers, Dave.
 
Not keen on making up the 4dKH ref solution with 4.9975g of baked bicarb and RO water like Mr G did then, Dave? You ought to be able to get an ultra exact 4dKH ref solution with all that equipment.

Sam
 
I`m not sure what you mean, Sam.

I used scales measuring to four decimal places, but chasing 4.9975g around was a bugger so I settled for 4.99something, which is pretty close. Plus I used good quality RO in accurate volumes and the Bicarb was baked at a low temp for a good while.
 
Oh right sorry being stupid, I would think 4.99g would be accurate enough!

Sam
 
So, now my filter has arrived, an Eheim 2213 and I would like to let you now my reasoning for choosing a filter that turns over 390l/h in a 60l tank. That is a tank volume being turned over at the rate of 6.5 times per hour.

This may seem excessive to most people, but I intend to fit an inline Hydor heater and a CO2 reactor to the filter discharge line, both of which will give some restriction to the outflow.

It is a pretty basic filter, but considering the plants in this set up will carry out most of the biological filtration, my priorities were mechanical filtration and adequate water movement around the tank. Being an Eheim, I am hoping to get several years of usage from it, plus spares are easy to come by.

Here is a picture of what comes in the box:

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I wonder how long it will be before I replace all that green hose and plastic that goes in the tank. There isn`t a great deal of media, but being a plant head, the first thing I did was...

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...remove the Carbon. A cheap way of acquiring sponge filter media is to buy the sheets sold for ponds. The word aquarium does not appear in the product`s name, so it is considerably cheaper:

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Black is the coarsest so it will be at the filter inlet, and green is the finest so will be at the outlet, giving the water a final polish. The original blue sponge with the Eheim was used as a template to cut out more filter media:

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By the way, filter wool is also a lot cheaper when you buy the one intended for ponds.

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Hopefully, my next task will be sorting out the lighting.

Cheers, Dave.
 
Hi Dave, I have been watching this thread with interest but have not posted any comments due to my lack of knowledge on planted tanks at the minute. However I just wanted to thank you for the brilliant tip on pond filter sponges I got exactly the same filter as you from and i presume you also got yours from Zooplus. Although I had quite a bit of spare media kicking around mine is till quite empty so cheers again for the tip.

Also love the tank and can't wait to see how it turns out.
 
Hi Dave, I have been watching this thread with interest but have not posted any comments due to my lack of knowledge on planted tanks at the minute.

I consider myself to be in the same camp as you at the moment, Shrimply.

However I just wanted to thank you for the brilliant tip on pond filter sponges I got exactly the same filter as you from and i presume you also got yours from Zooplus.

Glad to help people when it comes to finding cheaper alternatives. I was looking around my LFS and noticed the sponge was exacxtly the same as that in my AquaEl 250. Hopefully, I will never need to buy filter media for a long time. It is my main intention with this journal to show other inexperienced aquarists like myself, or those contemplating trying planted, what is required to put together a high tech tank. My impression is that people shy away from it because it looks too complex, but for me the main issue is that it costs more than running low tech.

And yes, my filter is from Zooplus.

I hope this journal will entice people over to the greenside! Dave.
 
Filter's looking good Dave, and interesting about the pond sponge being cheaper, not surprising! As you say put the word 'aquarium' on the front of something and it quadruples the price.

Sam
 
Looking good so far and a great tip on the pond filter media. Have you decided whether to paint the stand like the ada ones?
 
You're such a DIY! Ok, here's a list of some things I need done around the house...

paint the fence
weed the garden
paint the driveway
clean the gutters
recaulk the batheroom
rewire the lighting in my Solarium
etc...etc...etc...

I'll see you 4am tomorrow so you can get started? :lol:

Seriously, good plan. Everything is cheaper when it doesn't say aquarium on it! I don't think I've used the sponge that comes with my HOB filters in years. I buy the pond stuff, cut it to shape and then stick it in. Same difference.

llj :)
 

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