i second Auratus. Inchworm i understad wat ur saying but hoo in there right mind( and weed free mind) would ask someone for their beutiful betta fry and want to fight them. They dont let eachother go. they will fight till there is only on of them left. i think once every ten years is too much for betta fighting. They wont just let the other one go. And any one stupid enuf to let Theemon have there babys bettas must be smoking weed as well.
any betta breeders out there?
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Ron
Fish Addict
You guys, I know how you may be feeling right now, and I respect that, and I don't support fighting bettas either...but thats not a reason to over react and say harsh things on the Friendliest Forum on the Net. 
Listen to what he has to say, and you can nicely tell him your oppinion or an alternative to his decision. If you just come here and start putting him down negativly, I highly doubt you will have an impact on his thoughts. But if you nicely say to him that you don't think that what he is doing is right, and offer a good alternative such as breeding bettas for pleasure and maybe even trying to come up with a new color combination of betta, he may change his mind. Try to do this for all situations like this one that come up in the future. That way we will have a friendlier and more helpful atmosphere.
Willie
Listen to what he has to say, and you can nicely tell him your oppinion or an alternative to his decision. If you just come here and start putting him down negativly, I highly doubt you will have an impact on his thoughts. But if you nicely say to him that you don't think that what he is doing is right, and offer a good alternative such as breeding bettas for pleasure and maybe even trying to come up with a new color combination of betta, he may change his mind. Try to do this for all situations like this one that come up in the future. That way we will have a friendlier and more helpful atmosphere. Willie
Sorrell
If you're a bird, I'm a bird
I find it hard to believe that someone who would place their bettas in a fighting situation would care for them properly at other times. I think that it is really sad to want to aquire an animal with the intent of abusing it. 
Auratus
Why am I browsing a fish forum at 2am?
I know this is the friendliest forum and everything but I'm not going to be nice to a person who thinks it's okay to fight bettas, no matter what his reasoning. And for people who read my other posts you know it's not very often that I flame people for their beliefs.
He already said he is going to fight bettas... I don't think anyone is going to change his mind no matter how nice they are.
But i just want to say you have some false info. They rarely stop fighting until one dies. Maybe if you get some lfs veiltails they will eventually stop in a large tank but if you start fighting plakats they will fight to the death. I also don't like the fact that you refer to bettas as "part of your collection." Seems to me that you don't really care about hurting the fish or see it as a pet. Just something to do when your bored.
If someone punches you in the face every couple of months for a few years and then one day you get stuck in a room with him and he continually punches you in the face is it okay because he's been doing it for years?
He already said he is going to fight bettas... I don't think anyone is going to change his mind no matter how nice they are.
But i just want to say you have some false info. They rarely stop fighting until one dies. Maybe if you get some lfs veiltails they will eventually stop in a large tank but if you start fighting plakats they will fight to the death. I also don't like the fact that you refer to bettas as "part of your collection." Seems to me that you don't really care about hurting the fish or see it as a pet. Just something to do when your bored.
If someone punches you in the face every couple of months for a few years and then one day you get stuck in a room with him and he continually punches you in the face is it okay because he's been doing it for years?
im so outraged. im normally a guy hoo doesnt shout or complain either. but think of it this way. Hes killing fish for no reason. its like someone coming into ur room and killing ur fish for no reason. and the thing that relly gets me mad is that he enjoys it. and atleast bettas have the space to get away. they dont live in little puddles. they live in a big lake its just that sometime of the year the lake dries up and theyre forced to live in puddles and they get used to it so thats why u see them sold in these little things. I think they should be sold in 5 gal or 10 gal tanks. or even community tanks. I hope Theemon has thought about this. and wen he does he shoudl think about how he would liek it if he was forced to fight with someone he doesnt know to the death.
Hi Auratus
First, let me say that my post was not directed at you. Your post was not up there when I was writing mine. I just intended a general caution because of the nature of the topic.
Hi Bea
I don't understand why people would want to fight their bettas either. But I do know that if I am forced to lock the thread because of the way people reply, I won't find out either. So, let's look at the topic objectively.
Hi Ron
Thanks for your thoughtful and correct comment. It was very well said and reflects my thinking exactly.
First, let me say that my post was not directed at you. Your post was not up there when I was writing mine. I just intended a general caution because of the nature of the topic.
Hi Bea
I don't understand why people would want to fight their bettas either. But I do know that if I am forced to lock the thread because of the way people reply, I won't find out either. So, let's look at the topic objectively.
Hi Ron
Thanks for your thoughtful and correct comment. It was very well said and reflects my thinking exactly.
White Whale
Granola bar gone bad....
Would you people stop flaming him? Unless you are illiterate, you can very well see that he is new to this fighter breed. You are not helping him increase his knowledge by taunting and flaming.
Information:
Fighters are only fought ONCE - win or lose.
Before they fight they are conditioned for a couple of weeks.
In countries where they are fought, many times the winner is let back into the wild from where he was found and the loser is kept as a family pet.
There is nothing wrong with a little sparring - note sparring, not fighting.
If you breed bettas and have a problem with frys fighting one another in the outgrow tank or if you have a problem with 4 or more females fighting for pecking order in the community tank, then I suggest you find another fish to raise. It is in their nature to fight and you cannot stop millions of years of evolution just because the times deem its behavior politically incorrect.
These poor fish have been altered by the human hand just for man's own aesthetic pleasure. These fish would have NEVER grown long fins in the wild. These long-fins were not bred to fight. They would not last 30 minutes with a short-finned fighter.
So think next time you purchase a betta - is it because you love the fish as a whole (fighting spirit and all) or just his fins?
And they don't call these Siamese Fighting Fish for nothing.
Information:
Fighters are only fought ONCE - win or lose.
Before they fight they are conditioned for a couple of weeks.
In countries where they are fought, many times the winner is let back into the wild from where he was found and the loser is kept as a family pet.
There is nothing wrong with a little sparring - note sparring, not fighting.
If you breed bettas and have a problem with frys fighting one another in the outgrow tank or if you have a problem with 4 or more females fighting for pecking order in the community tank, then I suggest you find another fish to raise. It is in their nature to fight and you cannot stop millions of years of evolution just because the times deem its behavior politically incorrect.
These poor fish have been altered by the human hand just for man's own aesthetic pleasure. These fish would have NEVER grown long fins in the wild. These long-fins were not bred to fight. They would not last 30 minutes with a short-finned fighter.
So think next time you purchase a betta - is it because you love the fish as a whole (fighting spirit and all) or just his fins?
And they don't call these Siamese Fighting Fish for nothing.
Snuff
Fish Crazy
If you ever go to the African Cichlid forum, you would know that he is not gonna change his mind. Itty Bitty, if you read these posts, I think you will see he's not really interested in breeding them for the same reasons most people here would be.
When he was told that Africans don't like meat, he then decided to move on to fighting bettas. We can try, but I really don't think that he will ever change his mind.
When he was told that Africans don't like meat, he then decided to move on to fighting bettas. We can try, but I really don't think that he will ever change his mind.
Auratus
Why am I browsing a fish forum at 2am?
I don't love the fins. I think they are a nice addition to the fish but remember when I said in your picture post that I think plakats and imbellis are nicer looking? I like em all
I flamed him about his choice about smoking and that was wrong... I'm sorry for that
)
Good point but I don't think it's the same as when people shove them in a cup and force them to fight with no where to go/hide.
I flamed him about his choice about smoking and that was wrong... I'm sorry for that
) Good point but I don't think it's the same as when people shove them in a cup and force them to fight with no where to go/hide.
White Whale
Granola bar gone bad....
They don't eat meat? Cool! Do I need a brackish tank for them?Snuff said:
ye im sorry as well about the smoking thing. but Itty Bitty i dont think he foillows the rules of fighting. i think he wants to fight themfor the death because he wants to feed cichlids poor little white clouds. he could just feed them black worms or blood worms.
White Whale
Granola bar gone bad....
What about feeders? Why doesn't he use feeders? Why White Clouds? At least White Clouds can serve some purpose in setting up a new aquarium.Bea/\/ said:
Auratus
Why am I browsing a fish forum at 2am?
I don't think feeding an animal another living creature is bad. It's the food chain, but to do it for your entertainment is kind of demented.
Same with fighting bettas. He said I think it would be interesting. He's just doing it for fun and his own entertainment. I don't even think he's going to fight them with other people's betta for sport, I think he's just going to fight his own bettas...
Same with fighting bettas. He said I think it would be interesting. He's just doing it for fun and his own entertainment. I don't even think he's going to fight them with other people's betta for sport, I think he's just going to fight his own bettas...
buggyboutbettas
Fishaholic
sick people...that's all I'm sayin.....sick people....
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