Acting Strange...

[RCA]

I personally would not move him, especially into your other aquarium as you do not know why he is sick, and would not want to spread any potential infection. 
Keep doing what Flute advises and we are all hoping he pulls through for you, but as Flute says he is very sick.

 

[YamiHime]

Yes I think moving him to a new environment after already being so stressed wouldn't help the poor guy

 
I really wish you the best of luck with your little dude! I'll be sure to hang around and help as much as I can.

Thank you so much :'C I really hope Toby get's better.

I personally would not move him, especially into your other aquarium as you do not know why he is sick, and would not want to spread any potential infection. 
Keep doing what Flute advises and we are all hoping he pulls through for you, but as Flute says he is very sick.

mmmn. I don't understand, with so many waterchanges in such a small tank, why isn't the ammonia down? The Nitrite is still 0 and the Nitrate is 5 but I'm trying to raise it.
 
err what would be an appropriate reading for nitrate in a cycled tank??

 

[Flute]

It's because there isn't enough bacteria to break down the amount of ammonia that your betta is producing, it's something you have to build up. In such a small quantity of water ammonia builds back up much quicker, which is why it's so important to do as many water changes as you can until the bacteria properly establishes itself :)
Just out of curiosity, how many water changes are you doing daily now?

 

[YamiHime]

It's because there isn't enough bacteria to break down the amount of ammonia that your betta is producing, it's something you have to build up. In such a small quantity of water ammonia builds back up much quicker, which is why it's so important to do as many water changes as you can until the bacteria properly establishes itself :)
Just out of curiosity, how many water changes are you doing daily now?

Err I did a big one last night and I did one tonight, was going to do one again, guess I'm doing a big one because toby.... The end's of his fins are getting black... I...feel like I'm just making him worse!

 

[YamiHime]

So... when I'm at home after school, should I lower his water so he can breath?? or do I just do as many water changes as I can?? and how often? every hour?? or 2??
 
er... should I just move him to a bowl and give him a water change every day? like 100%?

 

[VickyChaiTea]

The water you're taking from your cycled tank... are you sure it has 0 ammonia? When you do water changes, are you siphoning out the gravel or only removing water? How large are the water changes you're doing?
 
I'm very sorry this is happening. In the future, bettas usually respond well to frozen foods like bloodworms, mysis shrimp, and brine shrimp. Thaw them, then offer them with a large eye dropper.
 
I'm not sure he had internal parasites. Internal parasites would mean he was eating, but was loosing weight and his poor would be white and stringy. I think he was underfed at the store, exposed to constant ammonia at the store, exposed to ammonia at home, became lethargic and denied dry food.
 
I have had something similar happen, I rescued an underweight veil tail and he appeared to get better. He was de-wormed, gained weight, got energy, then... In a few days he went from lethargic to dead.

 

[YamiHime]

The water you're taking from your cycled tank... are you sure it has 0 ammonia? When you do water changes, are you siphoning out the gravel or only removing water? How large are the water changes you're doing?
 
I'm very sorry this is happening. In the future, bettas usually respond well to frozen foods like bloodworms, mysis shrimp, and brine shrimp. Thaw them, then offer them with a large eye dropper.
 
I'm not sure he had internal parasites. Internal parasites would mean he was eating, but was loosing weight and his poor would be white and stringy. I think he was underfed at the store, exposed to constant ammonia at the store, exposed to ammonia at home, became lethargic and denied dry food.
 
I have had something similar happen, I rescued an underweight veil tail and he appeared to get better. He was de-wormed, gained weight, got energy, then... In a few days he went from lethargic to dead.

I only took water from the cycled tank once. I wasn't cleaning the gravel, just taking water. water changes were about half or 1L

I think this was one of the most depressing things ever.
As of now, Toby died...
 
I put him in a few paper towels and into a ziplock back, said goodbye and put him in the garbage.
At least my buddy doesn't have to suffer any longer...

 

[RCA]

I am so sorry to hear that, but as you say he is now at peace.
As we have said the damage may well have been done before you got him, and despite your efforts he just was unable to pull through.
Our beloved Bettas go through a lot in their short lives, often being shipped long journeys in small quantities of water before making it into our homes.
My recent male was similar to Toby, very thin, would not eat, hid from me, then in less than a day ripped off his tail.  He now see's me and waits for his food, and his tail is growing back. So there is hope, Toby was one of the lucky ones to have found such a caring person, but sadly too ill to pull through.
Take the learnings Toby gave to you and do not give up.
Keep in touch...

 

[372xp]

That is very bad news. My condolences to you, if nothing else you did your best for Toby.
Dont let this put you off keeping bettas, they are great fish and with someone as attentive as you, you will find them very rewarding.
Its from our mistakes that we learn and go on to greatness.

 

[VickyChaiTea]

I am so very sorry. *hug* Loosing a betta is heartbreaking.
 
I think I know why your water never got completely clean, it's important to siphon out debris from the gravel or it just sits there and rots. What I find works well for my 2.5 gallons is a 40-50% water change every week, while siphoning the gravel or sand. Plants help, too. So maybe some more of those if you ever start the tank back up.
 
Once again, you have my deepest sympathies.

 

[YamiHime]

I am so very sorry. *hug* Loosing a betta is heartbreaking.

 
I think I know why your water never got completely clean, it's important to siphon out debris from the gravel or it just sits there and rots. What I find works well for my 2.5 gallons is a 40-50% water change every week, while siphoning the gravel or sand. Plants help, too. So maybe some more of those if you ever start the tank back up.
 
Once again, you have my deepest sympathies.

 
 

That is very bad news. My condolences to you, if nothing else you did your best for Toby.
Dont let this put you off keeping bettas, they are great fish and with someone as attentive as you, you will find them very rewarding.
Its from our mistakes that we learn and go on to greatness.

 
 

I am so sorry to hear that, but as you say he is now at peace.
As we have said the damage may well have been done before you got him, and despite your efforts he just was unable to pull through.
Our beloved Bettas go through a lot in their short lives, often being shipped long journeys in small quantities of water before making it into our homes.
My recent male was similar to Toby, very thin, would not eat, hid from me, then in less than a day ripped off his tail.  He now see's me and waits for his food, and his tail is growing back. So there is hope, Toby was one of the lucky ones to have found such a caring person, but sadly too ill to pull through.
Take the learnings Toby gave to you and do not give up.
Keep in touch...

 
Thank you guys so much ;A; You guys were such a big help to me. I won't stay away from betta's because, I absolutely love them! I used to own then when I was little but unfortunately I didn't know the proper way to take care of them as I do now. (heater filter ect.) I absolutely love fish, and I know along the way some of them are going to die, but I'll always try my best to keep them their healthiest.

My tank is still running, it has my amazon sword in it which is growing baby plants. once the tank cycles I'm going to get another betta. But this time I will make sure everything is cycled.

 

[CoryLover95]

He could have swim bladder disease...

 

[CoryLover95]

I'm sorry, I didn't read the whole chain...I'm very sorry that you lost Toby  I had a betta die from swim bladder disease which developed into dropsy.  It was heartbreaking to watch him suffer so I know how you felt.

 

[YamiHime]

I'm sorry, I didn't read the whole chain...I'm very sorry that you lost Toby

 I had a betta die from swim bladder disease which developed into dropsy.  It was heartbreaking to watch him suffer so I know how you felt.

now that I think of it, he probably did have swim bladder, and that's permanent ; ;

 

[VickyChaiTea]

I'm sorry, I didn't read the whole chain...I'm very sorry that you lost Toby

 I had a betta die from swim bladder disease which developed into dropsy.  It was heartbreaking to watch him suffer so I know how you felt.

now that I think of it, he probably did have swim bladder, and that's permanent ; ;

I don't think he did. Swim bladder disorder can be caused by a lot of things, a lot of them are not permanent and some not even life threatening. For example: Constipation. The food backs up and causes swelling in the abdomen, which pushes on the swim bladder causing it to malfunction. Unfortunately it can also be caused by something more serious, though.