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Correct! But it won’t colonize either!

Your right!

And? I’ve started every tank since my 1st one with seeded media. I’ve just stocked the tank to about 15% capacity so that my bacteria didn’t get over loaded with waste. When doing this it gives your tanks bacteria enough time to colonize!! That’s what I’ve been stating all along…

When did I say anything about my bacteria dying off?? Bacteria may not die with no food but guess what: it won’t grow either!!!

Lol. Look back earlier in the thread. My point was this: when I add media that is seeded but no waste, I will have no nitrates. Hence why my tank would have been 0,0,0 the first night I set it up. Thank you for proving my point after all this time!

And you just proved my point:rofl: your tank gets cycled, aka has no ammonia or nitrites and has nitrates, when you add the waste!

But your bacteria doesn’t feed on anything if there is no waste!!! Therefore it wasn’t “cycled” but as soon as the betta goes in and creates waste the bacteria will colonize and therefore your tank is “cycled”.

Ok I’m going to say this one last time…beneficial bacteria alone will not start the cycle!!!!! You have to add waste for the bacteria to convert the ammonia to nitrites then the nitrites to nitrates. This isn’t rocket science. I’ve been telling u this the whole time. That’s why I had 0,0,0. No...

Exactly. I didn’t have any waste. So no waste= no nitrates

Be sure to use clean media like I did

Jesus why is this a competition??? Scientifically nitrates aren’t what we are achieving with adding seeded media…

Yes I have many plants. I don’t know why she keeps stating the same thing even tho media doesn’t transfer nitrates…

Hey buddy I have a test kit. I never tested my water yesterday bc it had no waste. I knew that since I only add bb I wouldn’t have nitrates. I wasn’t going to waste drops when I knew the outcome. You don’t know what you are talking about saying”beneficial bacteria adds nitrates”. Not how it...

Same with me. But I’m trying to say how if you add cycled media and add a little waste that is how you cycle a tank. Not just by adding media

Bruh…let me ask you a question, what do you add to the tank when you add media from a cycled tank?

Lol. The nitrates come from the waste of the fish. You will get nitrates from having beneficial bacteria in your tank…

This is what I’m doing. You have nitrates when you add the fish. I don’t know what you are confused about

Exactly!!!! Where does it say something about adding nitrates?? I add beneficial bacteria and add waste to let the bacteria break it down and turn it into nitrates. The bacteria grows as it eats the waste

Holy Jesus. Adding seeded media alone won’t cycle a tank. When you add waste the bacteria turns the waste or ammonia to nitrates. Therefore, if I had just added media, like last nigh, I would have 0,0,0

I added beneficial bacteria not nitrates!!! Adding nitrates to an uncycled tank doesn’t make it cycled

That’s my whole point in this conversation lol

I’m not adding nitrates!!!!!! Im adding beneficial bacteria when I add the media

Exactly. When you add waste nitrates would show that’s why I said it would just show 0,0,0 bc no waste was added at that time

Exactly. I just added media, not waste. Media alone won’t show nitrates without any waste

That’s why I added the snails. I’ll test today and hopefully they produced some waste so it has no ammonia and has nitrates

I set the tank up last night and added 2 juvenile snails. I’ll test but I was talking about last night how it would be 0,0,0 bc there was no waste

I understand. When I’m adding seeded media I’m adding bb correct? How could I add nitrates? Nitrates is from waste

Ok. I did this a few months ago and the water tested 0,0,0 and when I added 1 fish it showed only nitrates so yes the bb did it’s job but there were no nitrates until I added waste

Yes I know but since there is no waste it would be 0,0,0. I will test and add them today

My guess is that it would be 0,0,0?

Update! I got a 6 gallon cube for the shrimp! I have a seeded sponge filter and added 2 juvenile mystery snails. Can I add the shrimp now? Should I wait for tomorrow?

Ok so it’s not necessary to remove the eggs?i don’t even need a spawning mop? Do they need a trio or is a pair fine

Bump

I saw some gardneri killis at my lfs and I saw a pair that were dancing around each other. I’m very interested in these fish. I have some options. Can they go in my 20 long with neon and ember tetras? If that doesn’t work I have a 10 gallon. Are pairs ok? Can the eggs hatch naturally?

I want to get a 12x12x12 cube tank for my shrimp. I have fluval stratum for substrate and I want to grow medium light plants. Any suggestions? I was thinking of a clip on light like the aquaneat or nicrew. Looking in the $10-$15 price range.

I had a sponge filter running and I got a bigger on so I just left it in the tank bc it had bb. It hasn’t been running for a month but it’s still in the tank. Can I put it in another tank and it would have bb to kickstart the cycle?

I wish. My wallet would appreciate

Yep. I Have 5 display tanks and 1 apistogramma breeding tank. Only been in the hobby for 8 months lol

That’s what I said after my 3rd one. I now have 5…hopefully 6 :)

Yep lol. Now just time to convince my parents to let me have another tank