Why Are The 'clubs' Being Closed?

[dave_oddballs]

when i mentioned earlier about more specific thread topics, including channa and arowana i was just using these as examples. personally i dont think there should be any clubs, there is a section for every type of fish you can think of already.
i agree with maybe some sub-forum type thing going on involving some of the rarer and unusual fish growing in popularity at the moment, but then again if they did that, someone would pop up and say its not fair that they cant have one for bloody oscars and severums!
as for mis-sold fish, nobody, old, young, experienced or unexperienced should not buy fish they do not know everything possible about beforehand, that way, no one would be mis-sold fish.
i agree that mods shouldn't be blasted for undertaking such tasks as they are the ones that maintain this forum we all enjoy using!

i say to end all arguments, get rid of the whole club idea, and questions would be answered just as well in the provided sections.
and also someone mentioned about posting pictures, there is a whole section for members fish and aquarium pictures! what more can you ask for, why dont people just use this forum as it is intended to be used and then all these problems and arguments will be avoided.

Dave

 

[Inchworm]

Please clarify something for me. While all members can post pictures of their fish in the Member's Aquarium and Fish Pictures section, there is not, to the best of my knowledge anyway, any reason why they can't post them in all the other sections as well. When TFF just started up it was that way, but are there any sections left that you know of, where this can't be done using PhotoBucket or other links?

 

[~T~]

Aww man just when I was getting ready to set up my Zebra Danio club

 

[TigerIssey]

Please clarify something for me. While all members can post pictures of their fish in the Member's Aquarium and Fish Pictures section, there is not, to the best of my knowledge anyway, any reason why they can't post them in all the other sections as well. When TFF just started up it was that way, but are there any sections left that you know of, where this can't be done using PhotoBucket or other links?

The only one I to is one of the saltwater forums, some people say quite regularly that they cannot post pictures in one of those sections. However, they usually post the photo in another of the marine forums and refer to their earlier post.

Whether this is an attachment vs photobucket situation, I am not sure. I use photobucket and have not had any problems.

 

[indigoj]

The clubs are not just about photos - they are about sharing all aspects of owning certain types of fish.

As far as I am aware there were 3 active, well used and popular clubs then others started to spring up, some seemingly just jumping on the band waggon so to speak and this seems to be what has caused this closure and debate by the mods.

 

[dave_oddballs]

Aww man just when I was getting ready to set up my Zebra Danio club

lol,
i was thinking the same but looks like everyone is going to have to do without my knowledge of neon tetras for now!


erm, inchworm,
i for one, cant post pics in any other section than the members aquarium and fish pictures section because i am mostly online via my mobile phone, it wont let me use photobucket or anything. im not complaining really as i just post in the specific section and tell them my pic is in the pictures section.


there really is no reason for anyone to complain about pictures when it is quite clear where the section specifically for pictures is.
i think this is just getting out of hand, and certainly doesnt justify an argument.

this forum is exellent, imo, when used correctly, as the majority of people do. there really is no justification for any type of so called 'clubs' what so ever.
like it or not there is a section for everything, and if and when the mods think its time for a change, then it will be done or if anyone has any ideas as to what could be improved then whats up with contacting a mod and putting your ideas forward?

whats the point in all this, really? they was all little made up 'clubs'
friday fryday club? ha i think you need to get to the pub on a friday, not on here.
oscar club? one of the most common cichlids, does this warrant its own section? naaa doubt it
live bearer club? then whats the live bearer section for? ask yourself that question.
snakehead club? although i joined it, as i am a channa keeper, there isn't really a need for it
severum appreciation society? who really appreciates it? severums, aswel as oscars, are new world cichlids, hence why they belong in the 'new world cichlids' section

deary me, whats the world coming to!

David

 

[Ludwig Venter]

Aww man just when I was getting ready to set up my Zebra Danio club

Ha! -T-.... I think you've just said it......Where "cliques" was mentioned,...... clearly can be a problem, but obviously not exclusive...... imagine paging through the "pinned" topics to find the "I love Eheim filters club"....

How did the Oscar club get to 53 pages of posts???.... it was popular yes, and it was tollerated and left to thrive...... Suddenly, we are inundated with clubs substituting forums that we do cater for....... If we allow one club the freedom of the forum,...... You know how many fish species there are???......

Ultimately, there will be no "new" topics posted.... I'll just look for my favourite club and post on their existing thread..... I hope you can picture the dillema posed by the situation.

 

[The young one]

That's my cherry shrimp club down the drain.

 

[indigoj]

Ultimately, there will be no "new" topics posted.... I'll just look for my favourite club and post on their existing thread..... I hope you can picture the dillema posed by the situation.

I don't necessarily think this is true. I post regularly on the Oscar Club and elsewhere, including when necessary in New World Cichlids.

I also don't think there is a need for a club for every fish, many fish do fit into the 'general' headings, even in Oddballs.

I reflect back to Bettas - they get a whole section to themselves - who not stick them in with other anabantoids and labyrinth fish? Popularity - yet betta section users still make other posts elsewhere.

Where is the harm in a few pinned 'club' posts for fish that maybe don't warrant a whole sub section but do have a huge popularity.

 

[Ludwig Venter]

Ultimately, there will be no "new" topics posted.... I'll just look for my favourite club and post on their existing thread..... I hope you can picture the dillema posed by the situation.

I don't necessarily think this is true. I post regularly on the Oscar Club and elsewhere, including when necessary in New World Cichlids.

I also don't think there is a need for a club for every fish, many fish do fit into the 'general' headings, even in Oddballs.

I reflect back to Bettas - they get a whole section to themselves - who not stick them in with other anabantoids and labyrinth fish? Popularity - yet betta section users still make other posts elsewhere.

Where is the harm in a few pinned 'club' posts for fish that maybe don't warrant a whole sub section but do have a huge popularity.

Okay!!... so how do we decide... this one we will allow.... that one we won't???.... Imagine we allow one.... don't you think others would also expect to be allowed??

 

[indigoj]

How was it decided Bettas would get a section and other fish wouldn't?

I think the clubs would speak for themselves in use - some like the Oscars/Severum/snakeheads for example have already proven useful, well supported posts while others will inevitably drift into disuse.

How about a minimum 5 members who own a type of fish request a that a club be pinned - maybe once a 'club' reaches a minimum number of posts or pages or members? Also have the option of unpinning if it is not used for a month?

 

[Inchworm]

I reflect back to Bettas - they get a whole section to themselves - who not stick them in with other anabantoids and labyrinth fish? Popularity - yet betta section users still make other posts elsewhere.

That's a good question that I can answer for you, indigoj. Some time ago they were combined but the time came that the betta threads overwhelmed the gourami and other anabantoid ones. We actually moved them out and set them up in their own section so members could find them. Beside that, there are something like 70 different species of betta that members could post about. Betta splendens are just the most popular and frequently found of them.

 

[indigoj]

Thanks for that! Knew there were several types but not that many.

 

[Platygirl11]

I do appreciate the mods, as we all (hopefully) know they do a ton of work to keep these forums functional. In end, the desicion is up to them.

Really dave_oddballs, the livebearer club is useful, and no one feels like starting a "lets swap livebearer facts in a disorganized manner" thread. An honestly, questions receive much more attention that way. It's a good club, so try to be a little more respectful to it.

 

[BigC]

Ok lets put this into perspective. the more, better, well run clubs (for want of a better word) seemed to have been going along fine until the likes of this started to appear
[URL="http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=299254"]http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=299254[/URL]
with self professed bosses and managers etc.
Oversized sigs were also becomming a problem lengthening posts and subsequently less posts per page
This now needs to be reviewed and discussed as to the best way forward for the good of the forum.
so as not to spoil the TFF experience of others.
We need time to debate what constitutes a club and how it should be run and maintained to give the best possible information on a specific species.
Not just places for hum drum chat with no substance or relevance toward the subject matter.
We do listen, we take on board all what folks are saying and suggesting, we act as custodians of this forum of which William is the ultimate Boss.
Sometimes our decisions are not met with approval by all parties but you can be assured we will review this matter fully and come to some conclusion that will appease most if not all.
ATB
BigC