White Spots On Clown Loach!
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KieranBoyne
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Hows the patient doing?
I'm definitely down to just the two loaches.
Gone from five to two! Oh well, it happens I suppose.
As of yesterday there were still spots on the loaches, I wouldn't say they're filled with them but there are still a fair few. Only seen one of my loaches today and he has one or two spots. I've just put some food in to try and lure the other one out, but nothing. So I could jut ave the one. And the one I do have is sort of hovering at the bottom... he doesn't seem as hyper as they usually are and there's no relaxing on the gravel either. I think at this rate I'm gonna lose them all!
I'm going to say about ordering the wormer plus later today but I don't even know if it'll kill the internal parasites if that's the problem.
I'm also gonna have to call it a day with the white spot medication. The water is a permanent greeny colour and it can't be good for the fish and it's obviously not working as it should be. Plus, a water change is required. It's been over a week and with all the fish waste and medication, it's got to be done.
Really getting disheartened about this. I think it may be the supplier I got the loaches from (Pets at Home... won't be going there again!). I brought my first loach from a different shop last year and aside from the mild outbreak of ich a few weeks ago, he's had no problems. It's so frustrating. I brought the big tank just for him so he could have some buddys but he's still stuck in my 100L! I've grown attatched to him so I'm not moving him until I know it's safe.
And thanks for the PM, wilder! Will check it out!
As of yesterday there were still spots on the loaches, I wouldn't say they're filled with them but there are still a fair few. Only seen one of my loaches today and he has one or two spots. I've just put some food in to try and lure the other one out, but nothing. So I could jut ave the one. And the one I do have is sort of hovering at the bottom... he doesn't seem as hyper as they usually are and there's no relaxing on the gravel either. I think at this rate I'm gonna lose them all!
I'm going to say about ordering the wormer plus later today but I don't even know if it'll kill the internal parasites if that's the problem.
I'm also gonna have to call it a day with the white spot medication. The water is a permanent greeny colour and it can't be good for the fish and it's obviously not working as it should be. Plus, a water change is required. It's been over a week and with all the fish waste and medication, it's got to be done.
Really getting disheartened about this. I think it may be the supplier I got the loaches from (Pets at Home... won't be going there again!). I brought my first loach from a different shop last year and aside from the mild outbreak of ich a few weeks ago, he's had no problems. It's so frustrating. I brought the big tank just for him so he could have some buddys but he's still stuck in my 100L! I've grown attatched to him so I'm not moving him until I know it's safe.
And thanks for the PM, wilder! Will check it out!
I know how you feel you been trying for a long time and some of the fish still have spots.
It's up to you I do think you done the best but is does get you down.
Do a gravel vac and water change, add some black carbon to your filter.
Maybe in a few days try anti whitespot medication by interpet. But that's your choice.
But if fish are stressed with other illnesses on top it won't be helping them get better.
Good Luck.
It's up to you I do think you done the best but is does get you down.
Do a gravel vac and water change, add some black carbon to your filter.
Maybe in a few days try anti whitespot medication by interpet. But that's your choice.
But if fish are stressed with other illnesses on top it won't be helping them get better.
Good Luck.
KieranBoyne
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Like Wilder said, do a water large water change and swap the carbon fitler media and that should help a bit hopefull. And I am so sorry for all of your losses!
Sorry to be a pain and ask YET AGAIN, but does everybody recommend getting the wormer plus? It says it's ideal if you haven't got a major problem with internal parasites. The loach you all saw in the picture the other day... that was definitely caused by internal parasites, right? The ich alone wouldn't do that? Sorry to ask but I just wanted to triple check before I ordered! 
Oh, and just to update you all, the second loach made an appearance when I was vacuuming the gravel so horray on that count.
Oh, and just to update you all, the second loach made an appearance when I was vacuuming the gravel so horray on that count.
KieranBoyne
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Your not being a pain, you're just doing what you have to to ensure your fish survive. And to answer your question, yes I do think that you should get it.
Thank goodness the 2nd loach is alive. I had a feeling he was hiding lol. Glad to hear he/she's alright
Thank goodness the 2nd loach is alive. I had a feeling he was hiding lol. Glad to hear he/she's alright
KieranBoyne
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He has ich, so he's probably trying to relieve his symptoms by rubbing up against stuff...
You are not being a pain at all. The trouble with treating sick fish is sometimes you do not know what you are treating. Ich will attack sick and old fish and not touch "healthy" fish in the tank. From the picture you posted of the skinny loach it sure looks like an internal parasite problem. Unfortunately the first pictures you posted the fish showed no signs of an internal parasite, only ich. The internal parasite will be destroying the fish's immune system making it more easy for the ich parasite to attack it.
For some strange reason I cannot view the picture again. I am wondering if the spots are now actually ich and not fungus/bacterial infection left by the ich parasite - which can happen as the fish is so weak, this would be a reason why the medication is appearing not to have worked when it could have and the marks that are left are not ich (if that makes sense).
Definately do a wc and add carbon to clear any esha exit left and treat with a wormer. Cases like this are extreemly distressing and very difficult to spot I am afraid, it is not always the problem that shows up (like ich) which is the cause of the problem.
For some strange reason I cannot view the picture again. I am wondering if the spots are now actually ich and not fungus/bacterial infection left by the ich parasite - which can happen as the fish is so weak, this would be a reason why the medication is appearing not to have worked when it could have and the marks that are left are not ich (if that makes sense).
Definately do a wc and add carbon to clear any esha exit left and treat with a wormer. Cases like this are extreemly distressing and very difficult to spot I am afraid, it is not always the problem that shows up (like ich) which is the cause of the problem.
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