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[Mr Miagi]

hey! why throw a suck face at me?

Because your statement "Theyre both the same in this aspect anyway" is wrong and growsly mis-understood, and jumping to a conclusion based on, little knowledge, and no fact. If you knew how most Japanese fish keepers kept their fish, and what level they treat their Koi and other species, you would not make such an in-crrect, misleading statement.

 

[Dorkhedeos]

Japanese people are going overboard.

Dude, its chinese!

Opps

Theyre both the same in this aspect anyway

punk, thats like saying everybody from the everybody from europe is the same.


anyways, i think those are chinese characters, i cant read it though. japanese characters look different. i dont see whats wrong with declawing cats and dogs, im sure you would want to declaw it if it were tearing up your house

 

[jarmado]

it was japanese btw, i asked a friend i know who speaks,

Dude, its Chinese, or another asia text. It is NOT japanese.

EDIT: Ok, All I had to do was Google Fish Love Magazine, and look through a few links. The magazine is from Malaysia/Singapore.

again, i would like to repeat a part of my last post..
the last page of the photo shows a singapore dollar and malaysian ringgit sign..
obviously not from japan and obviously to which country it is sold..
and again, the name of the link owner is SHAWN CHEN!


makes me wonder..
it is quite ironic though, the people who made the following comments are from gentle(?) and good mannered (??) britain:
from sunny Luton:

Dont they look better with their tail fins? Japanese people are going overboard. Dead ebryo's and human brains for dinner is not nearly half of it

from lovely Hartshill:

it really isnt plesant what some people will do,
it was japanese btw, i asked a friend i know who speaks, but i only gave her a snipet dont want to mentally scar etc

from historic London:

Absolutely disgusting!! and people wonder why i would quite happily see every country outside of the western world wiped of the face of the earth.

Every country has its few bad ones but it seems to me that far eastern countries have a tendency of cruelty to the extreem with animals (and indeed even people), the middle east and most of africa arent much better either.
Blowing them off the face of the planet is probably a bit strong but maybe rounding up as many of them as possible and cutting their feet off and keeping them in tiny cages on market stalls could educate the rest of them.

from adorable Jersey:

5 minutes alone with someone who would do that and i would take away their previliege of using legs and arms

 

[The-Wolf]

Can you all please drop the racial connitations of this current tangent and get back to the importance of this post.

I posted this to raise awareness of a horrific and barbaric pratice not to start a race debate.

 

[AnneRiceBowl]

Wow. After looking at the link, I am horrified. The tail docking of the fish is the most horrible thing that I have seen done on an animal to make money. Who would have thought that people would actually buy a tailess fish? I think parrot cichlids and balloon mollies are another fish sold that I think are horrible.

When people have their dog's ears and tails clipped and docked, it's an extension from the breed's original purpose. Guard dogs had their ears clipped so that they could hear better (that's what was believed) and had their tails docked so that it wouldn't be able to be grabbed by the "bad guy" or hinder the attacking done by the dog. Dogs for hunting had their tails docked for similar reasons. Horses had their tails docked in Medieval Times so that the "bad guy" wouldn't grab it or chop it off in the middle of battle and so that it wouldn't get caught in the armor or tack. The only cats that I have known to be declawed are indoor cats so that they don't tear up furniture, etc. Dogs have their dew claws removed usually because they start to grow into the leg. Horses nowadays have their tails docked because they are used for polo, farm work, etc. I don't find these practices barbaric and in some cases serve a purpose. I'd rather prevent a problem rather than waiting for the problem to arise. Some of these practices are outdated, but are also traditional in some way.

There is animal cruelty worldwide, not just in one or two Asian countries.

Have we not forgotten what people do to themselves? Cosmetic Surgery. Wow. There's loads of ammo there, so I'll not even get into that. People over the centuries have done countless things to themselves just because they thought it looked better or sexier: corssettes, and that foot-binding-thing that Asian women did several hundred years ago (can't remember the country) and some women still do.

 

[Mad Duff]

This is just so sick it defies belief, there is actually a section on the site that has some short videos and one shows someone using a scalpel to cut a symbol into a koi's head

Fishlove - Gallery

 

[KathyM]

I find it fascinating (and appalling) that there is outcry over this, and yet every day puppies are docked for cosmetic purposes (and yes they do feel pain, I can say that as an ex VN), have their ears cropped with weeks of painful recovery, and in the US cats still have their claws removed. And there are people on here being racist to the Far East when these abominations are going on on our doorsteps. Seems hypocritical to me to say the least.

I find the link disgusting, just as disgusting as I find the practice of docking tails and cropping ears in dogs, and just as disgusting as I find claw removal in cats.

Animal cruelty is animal cruelty, you can't say one is okay because it looks good and then condemn another form of it

 

[jarmado]

Can you all please drop the racial connitations of this current tangent and get back to the importance of this post.

I posted this to raise awareness of a horrific and barbaric pratice not to start a race debate.

completely agree!

 

[KathyM]

When people have their dog's ears and tails clipped and docked, it's an extension from the breed's original purpose. Guard dogs had their ears clipped so that they could hear better (that's what was believed) and had their tails docked so that it wouldn't be able to be grabbed by the "bad guy" or hinder the attacking done by the dog. Dogs for hunting had their tails docked for similar reasons. Horses had their tails docked in Medieval Times so that the "bad guy" wouldn't grab it or chop it off in the middle of battle and so that it wouldn't get caught in the armor or tack. The only cats that I have known to be declawed are indoor cats so that they don't tear up furniture, etc. Dogs have their dew claws removed usually because they start to grow into the leg. Horses nowadays have their tails docked because they are used for polo, farm work, etc. I don't find these practices barbaric and in some cases serve a purpose. I'd rather prevent a problem rather than waiting for the problem to arise. Some of these practices are outdated, but are also traditional in some way.

the operative word in most of that paragraph is "had". Why are dogs docked and cropped nowadays? For looks and no other reason - just as appalling as ever.

Dog fighting was traditional. Cock fighting was traditional. Fox hunting was traditional. They're all disgusting, as is docking and cropping.

 

[shrimply]

When people have their dog's ears and tails clipped and docked, it's an extension from the breed's original purpose. Guard dogs had their ears clipped so that they could hear better (that's what was believed) and had their tails docked so that it wouldn't be able to be grabbed by the "bad guy" or hinder the attacking done by the dog. Dogs for hunting had their tails docked for similar reasons. Horses had their tails docked in Medieval Times so that the "bad guy" wouldn't grab it or chop it off in the middle of battle and so that it wouldn't get caught in the armor or tack. The only cats that I have known to be declawed are indoor cats so that they don't tear up furniture, etc. Dogs have their dew claws removed usually because they start to grow into the leg. Horses nowadays have their tails docked because they are used for polo, farm work, etc. I don't find these practices barbaric and in some cases serve a purpose. I'd rather prevent a problem rather than waiting for the problem to arise. Some of these practices are outdated, but are also traditional in some way.

the operative word in most of that paragraph is "had". Why are dogs docked and cropped nowadays? For looks and no other reason - just as appalling as ever.

Dog fighting was traditional. Cock fighting was traditional. Fox hunting was traditional. They're all disgusting, as is docking and cropping.

Read my post. NOW it is no longer done for aesthetic purposes and is illegal for everything but working dogs.

 

[KathyM]

Sorry but if you believe that I'm stunned *lol*. Docking for aesthetic purposes is still done - you can't pick and choose which pups will make working dogs when they've just been born. Docking isn't illegal in the UK - it is frowned upon by the RCVS, and it is illegal to be done by anyone but a trained vet. Still happens. Still permanently maims dogs and takes away one of their primary means of communication. It's still animal cruelty.

 

[shrimply]

Link

Trust me on this one.

 

[KathyM]

The Animal Welfare Bill isn't in place yet though, and it still allows the working dog exemption - which is ridiculous because dogs aren't picked and trained for working until well after they're already docked. So in theory, this won't change a lot - you can say your dog is a working breed and get away with torturing it

 

[The-Wolf]

hi all, sorry to bring this back up agian
but I have found the same article, translated and explained
http/www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/...em.php?news=957
for those that really wanted to know what the magazine was talking about.

 

[vancouver]

The whole dog - fish comparisin does make sense..

If the tail isn't doing the dog any damage, leave the thing there... same for ears..

some people want their pitbulls to look as mean as possible.. I think it's sad.