Still hiding in the castle, not coming out at all. Looks like he's still heavy breathing as best I can tell from his 'shaking', but since he's not showing himself well, it's hard to tell. As the lethargy has remained, I'd guess yes, he's still heavy breathing.
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I've just been through this thread and I think its worth reiterating that the tank is far too small for this fish. This is likely to be leading to stress and anxiety in the Clown Loach which in turn will affect his immune system, making him more susceptible to illness and disease.
I appreciate you understand this but I don't see the fish getting any better in that sized tank, so you either need to re-home him ASAP or accept that he's going to continue to deteriorate.
I'd also look to be carrying out bigger water changes each time, say 50% which might give the poor fish some rest bite.
Ultimately the sooner you can re-home the Loach the better for him. Have you tried your LFS? I think you said you were in the UK so I think you'll find somewhere who will take him on.
I appreciate you understand this but I don't see the fish getting any better in that sized tank, so you either need to re-home him ASAP or accept that he's going to continue to deteriorate.
I'd also look to be carrying out bigger water changes each time, say 50% which might give the poor fish some rest bite.
Ultimately the sooner you can re-home the Loach the better for him. Have you tried your LFS? I think you said you were in the UK so I think you'll find somewhere who will take him on.
After cleaning the tank the Clown Loach perked up and came out of the castle. Noticed he was breathing heavy. Do not know if I could see some stomach bloating. The angle I was seeing it from made it difficult to tell for sure.
I'm currently using the South Wales Fish Rescue site that Star4 directed me to for re-homing the Clown Loach. Unfortunately, these things are often easier said than done... Unless anyone here can assist in that? I don't think my LFS will be of much assistance in this matter, although I can telephone them and ask if they know of anyone in the area who has extensive experience with Clown Loaches and might be able to take him off my hands.
Last checked water stats on Sunday at 12PM, ammonia and nitrites were 0 as usual. Carried out an 8L change on Monday. I've noticed one WCMM swimming in an odd manner (I think, anyway), that is he curves his spine as he swims forward, his caudal fin curved downwards. His fins look a little nipped (the lower tip of the caudal fin and part of his anal fin), will need to observe in case it is fin rot (very difficult to tell at this point).
The Clown Loach has been coming out a little more, but still heavy breathing and not eating. He doesn't appear to clamp his fins close to his body very much, not his dorsal fin anyway. Lethargy, not eating and heavy breathing are the primary symptoms.
I am feeding de-shelled and de-thawed pea tonight after fasting the WCMM's since last Thursday (last fed last Thursday). It isn't too hard to ensure the pea doesn't foul the tank, I hand feed it and they just snap it up.
EDIT: My LFS are able to take him off my hands, but the problem is getting him out of the tank in the first place. Any specific advice or tips on that front? He'll put up a fight, and I want it to be as stress free as possible. This is if I take my LFS up on their offer and nobody else is able to assist in re-homing in the near future (I am slightly suspicious...and then there's the question whether or not, even if I am suspicious, I decline their offer - even if they simply euthanise, is all that will happen on my end a long battle that ends in defeat anyway?).
Last checked water stats on Sunday at 12PM, ammonia and nitrites were 0 as usual. Carried out an 8L change on Monday. I've noticed one WCMM swimming in an odd manner (I think, anyway), that is he curves his spine as he swims forward, his caudal fin curved downwards. His fins look a little nipped (the lower tip of the caudal fin and part of his anal fin), will need to observe in case it is fin rot (very difficult to tell at this point).
The Clown Loach has been coming out a little more, but still heavy breathing and not eating. He doesn't appear to clamp his fins close to his body very much, not his dorsal fin anyway. Lethargy, not eating and heavy breathing are the primary symptoms.
I am feeding de-shelled and de-thawed pea tonight after fasting the WCMM's since last Thursday (last fed last Thursday). It isn't too hard to ensure the pea doesn't foul the tank, I hand feed it and they just snap it up.
EDIT: My LFS are able to take him off my hands, but the problem is getting him out of the tank in the first place. Any specific advice or tips on that front? He'll put up a fight, and I want it to be as stress free as possible. This is if I take my LFS up on their offer and nobody else is able to assist in re-homing in the near future (I am slightly suspicious...and then there's the question whether or not, even if I am suspicious, I decline their offer - even if they simply euthanise, is all that will happen on my end a long battle that ends in defeat anyway?).
Have you seen the shop? this fish is under great stress now and unless the shop are going to house it in a larger tank then it is still going to be under stress. Have you tried aquarist classifieds ? there are some people advertising at present clown loach wanted, if you try them, check they know what they are doing first and explain about the fish you maybe able to find him a suitable home without the stress of going into a shop.
I am still unable to take him on
I am doing a major change around of tanks these next few days but I am also still without a car. None of the people I know who would be "experienced" enough to take him on have room either
I am still unable to take him on
I am doing a major change around of tanks these next few days but I am also still without a car. None of the people I know who would be "experienced" enough to take him on have room either 
Do you mean the fish swim curved at times. Or the spine is bent all the time.
Signs of finrot.
White, red, grey fluffy edges to fins.
Translucent fins.
Holes in fins.
Excess slime on fins.
Fins falling apart.
Fin rays bear.
Raggy fins.
Split fins.
Red spots on fins.
Red streaking inf on fins.
Signs of finrot.
White, red, grey fluffy edges to fins.
Translucent fins.
Holes in fins.
Excess slime on fins.
Fins falling apart.
Fin rays bear.
Raggy fins.
Split fins.
Red spots on fins.
Red streaking inf on fins.
WILDER said:
Like I said, it's extremely difficult to tell (with male WCMM's, their fins being red and tipped with white doesn't help), I've only just noticed it so I can observe and if it worsens at all, I'll know it isn't down to aggression (and the WCMMs can be quite nippy with one another at times).
I would add some myxazin by waterlife for finrot.
If you do decide to medicate don't forget to increase aeration, Remove black carbon from filter.
With the clown loach already breathing heavy it could finish him off.
The fish with the curved spine. Is it curved all the time, Or just when he's swimming about.
If you do decide to medicate don't forget to increase aeration, Remove black carbon from filter.
With the clown loach already breathing heavy it could finish him off.
The fish with the curved spine. Is it curved all the time, Or just when he's swimming about.
I think just when he swims about. I have eSHa 2000 for fin rot, and also NT Labs Anti-Internal Bacteria #10 for anything else (I can also get Myxazin from my LFS and at least one other local pet store, so no waiting on the internet for that), and also an air stone for increasing aeration (it's left on all the time anyway).
The NT Labs Anti-Internal Bacteria #10 may be more suitable as it does not contain copper...WCMM's are sensitive to copper, and although they were fine with the first run of eSHa 2000, I'd rather not risk it again unless I absolutely had to.
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