thinking about moving on...

[Rusty_Shackleford]

Surveyors make great money out here. You didn't enjoy the job? Most of those guys are fairly smart as well, I usually always enjoy speaking with them.

Well remember Mt.Rushmore is three surveyors and some other guy.
I enjoyed certain aspects of the job, being outside, lots of nature. Walked up on spotted deer fawns hiding in the grass, I've seen red foxes on a golf course in the middle of Evanston,IL. , caught coral snakes and rattlesnakes in Texas. But the money wasn't there. In order to be come a licensed professional surveyor in IL you need a college degree (check) 6 years of time under a PLS (check) all to make 60K a year (pass)
Oh and the math geez

 

[Ceez]

Well remember Mt.Rushmore is three surveyors and some other guy.
I enjoyed certain aspects of the job, being outside, lots of nature. Walked up on spotted deer fawns hiding in the grass, I've seen red foxes on a golf course in the middle of Evanston,IL. , caught coral snakes and rattlesnakes in Texas. But the money wasn't there. In order to be come a licensed professional surveyor in IL you need a college degree (check) 6 years of time under a PLS (check) all to make 60K a year (pass)
Oh and the math geez

Yea I can definitely see the dilemma. Local 12 surveyors here make twice that once you become journeyman status. Scale is $62.50 but I know some of them making upwards of $90 hourly. All without a formal education but it definitely helps.

 

[Rusty_Shackleford]

Yea I can definitely see the dilemma. Local 12 surveyors here make twice that once you become journeyman status. Scale is $62.50 but I know some of them making upwards of $90 hourly. All without a formal education but it definitely helps.

Oh union surveyors, oh yeah they make good money and good benefits. Everywhere I've worked was non union.

 

[jaylach]

No not you.

I'm roughly in the same age group as you guys, I'm 55. I believe I have discovered the root cause of the issues with the younger generations. They did not walk to school up hill both ways in the snow. Also when they didn't want to eat their dinner they didn't care there were starving children in Africa.
Sound familiar?

I know you are kidding but you are still wrong. If someone brings up issues associated with younger people I say that the issue is not the kids but myself. I don't mean myself to mean that I caused all the issues but my generation had a major role. I'm 70 years old and it was my generation that pretty much took away the ability of a parent and/or teacher to discipline a child. If a child can't be disciplined how can we expect them to learn discipline?

I also wonder if there really IS a problem with today's youth. When I was 20, 50 years ago, the world was quite different. In today's world technology rules and our young pretty much have no choice but to become at least somewhat proficient with a computer. Shoot, someone without at least basic computer skills could not even get a job at a photo center.

Yes, school shootings and such are on the rise but are they really as off the wall as it seems or is it just that "back in the day" we didn't have the communication abilities to make it accessible unless the local news on TV covered it?

I also see the extreme use of social media as a problem. When I was young we would have a party when someone's parents were out of town. How shocking! We actually interacted face to face. Today that same party could easily have no one present but all interacting via a group video chat. This is actually harmful as it is at a young age that we learn to socially interact. Without face to face interaction we really never learn how to deal with social situations.

OK, rant over.

 

[Oldspartan]

Linda thinks the younsters today are under educated in things that count. She bemoans the fact they cannot use a clock with hands or are at a loss at the register when power goes out.

I disagree with her. The clock that lights up and the computerized gizmos is their world. It is no worse than our being gear heads on muscle cars or using a dial phone after school to murmur sweet somethings. Their world is much faster, and more is at their fingertips than my generations. They worry about the climate while we cowered under desks. They travel the world on field trips and we went to a dairy farm.

Different but no better or worse.

 

[Back in the fold]

See the linker rod with the grade laser? It had to be exact grade so the flathead shovel was just to brush the dirt around a tiny bit. I set a 9'x12' Edison Vault in that rocked hole. The crane comes out to set it and if you're not on grade and have to adjust it those guys get $730 an hour. My crane operators are always in and out within the 1st or 2nd try. Owner loves me for that. Than the spilt trench had to be exact grade because there's knockouts on the vault where the 4" schedule 40 pipe slides into on both sides.

Funny thing is the super who took over for me didn't block the windows on the vault and when they slurried around the vault it filled up the box with about 30" of mud and they couldn't figure out why they didn't have enough and why they had to order more....owner was fairly upset with me at first until I told him to shove it where the sun don't shine. His new super did that all on his own....he bought me lunch the following Monday and we ate it while the new super and a laborer used a jackhammer to break out the now rock hard concrete

I love guys that know their business !