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Byron said:
 
You would be correct on that plant in the first photo. I have 2 bunches. How would I go about attaching it to something?
 
I was about to ask about what that stuff was on the back of the leaves on that... I was worried it was doing something bad... is that normal?
 
 
If attaching Java Fern to rock or wood, sometimes you can find a crevice that the rhizome can be gently stuck in.  Otherwise, you can use black cotton thread or fishing line.  Wrap it around the rhizome and the wood/rock, once or twice; eventually it will disintegrate (the thread anyway), and you cannot see it as it looks like part of the hair roots.
 
I assume what you mean is the black spot and roots.  This is the beginning of possible new plants, which develop on the fronds (=leaves).
 
Byron.
 
Now would you hot glue the string on the bottom of the rock then? I have a very hard time with dexterity trying to tie something like that .
 
I personally would not use any chemical substance in an aquarium.  I've no idea if this might cause issues or not, but I won't be trying it to find out.
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Byron said:
I personally would not use any chemical substance in an aquarium.  I've no idea if this might cause issues or not, but I won't be trying it to find out.
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That is fine I bought some sewing string anyways.
 
I hope I caught it in time on the ferns though, few had no roots what so ever on the bottom which concerns me
 
So long as the rhizome is still relatively firm or solid, as opposed to being very soft and spongy indicating rot, it should be fine.  This is a relatively hardy plant, though it has its limits.
 
Byron said:
So long as the rhizome is still relatively firm or solid, as opposed to being very soft and spongy indicating rot, it should be fine.  This is a relatively hardy plant, though it has its limits.
Yeah I took out the anubias (SP?) and did the same and tied it to some rocks. The grinder I have came in handy so i could grind out some grooves in the stones so the strings didnt slip.
 
Strangest thing on that wisteria though.... the plants are growing so tall in the second 75 gallon without no really "bushes" growing off it, yet in this first one its like sprawled out.
 
The only thing that still needs work is the sword... I will be ordering those tabs you recommended, I am sure even if I dont need it outside of that plant, that eventually I will need the extra fritz anyways in the water column so...the tab will be used up for sure. I have it in my cart on amazon :).
 
Now seeing how my java fern is having little plantlets coming off the leaves soon I will have tons of java fern that I can then plant out into other tanks.
 
Yes, Anubias is like Java Fern in not needing "planting" in the substrate.  The JF is slow growing, but in time you will likely have adventitious (daughter) plants.
 
Alright, I am having a heck of a time keeping the golden jenny to stay put in one of the tanks, what do you suggest on that one lol.
 
watertown28 said:
Alright, I am having a heck of a time keeping the golden jenny to stay put in one of the tanks, what do you suggest on that one lol.
 
I assume this is the plant species Lysimachia nummularia 'Aurea.'  Being a stem plant, it is not uncommon for them to keep rising out of the substrate.  Bury a longer piece of the stem, and several stems together in a small clump.  If you sort of twirl the stems around so the portions buried are more horizontal than vertical it should work.  Placing a small pebble or bit of wood on the spot can help too.
 
Byron said:
 
Alright, I am having a heck of a time keeping the golden jenny to stay put in one of the tanks, what do you suggest on that one lol.
 
I assume this is the plant species Lysimachia nummularia 'Aurea.'  Being a stem plant, it is not uncommon for them to keep rising out of the substrate.  Bury a longer piece of the stem, and several stems together in a small clump.  If you sort of twirl the stems around so the portions buried are more horizontal than vertical it should work.  Placing a small pebble or bit of wood on the spot can help too.
 
Yep it is Lysimachia nummularia.
 
Could I also kinda tie it to a piece of wood or something?Not tight of course, but enough to keep it in place until it roots a bit?
 
Alright Byron... here is some eye candy for the progress from your helping me:
 
Before:
 
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Now:
 
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I know got some algae on the glass but right now that is a battle I need to face till I get balance.
 
I just did a 30 gallon or so WC on this tank, recall, this is a 75 gallon tank with a 40 gallon sump. Of course I think total water volume is 110 gallons.
 
Added some of the tetra plant food 10ml.
 
The CO2 has been off for a few days now so yeah seems to be doing much better... algae on leaves seem to be clearing up.
 
Have to work on that sword though, that plant has gotten big, I really need to get those tabs. I been reading up on them and stuff so .. the seacem ones you said you used are in the cart on amazon I should order now.
 
Patience is certainly a virtue in this hobby.  
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3rd day update, looking good. Seems like the brown algae is slowly clearing off the glass in some spots, I am trying to use that as an indicator for how well things are going.
 
Nothing added to the water sense the last update. Wife forgot to order the tabs, so another week the swords need to wait, though I have not seen any down turn on them yet. I will be doing some house keeping on it this weekend and trim some leaves on that which are dead or almost dead.
 
Thinking of getting some of those nice sets for trimming plants .... well worth the 15 bucks.
 
Alright now here it is
 
Before ( last time )
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Current
 
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Java in the front seems to be doing really well actually. Lots of little guys popping up on them.
 
I would assume that the way to re use the new growth would be to pluck them off and do as I did with the mother plants yes?
 
O and I need to figure a way to position them so they stop leaning. Puzzle I will solve shortly once I have the time.
 
 
The roots on those wisteria bothered me but I soon found out the fish love to swim among them ... so it might seem like a little mess, but they love it so until that changes or I need to replant a new sprout, they are staying.
 
Leave the roots...dangling roots are a wonderful source of food for small fish, which is why you see fish in among roots so often.  Once the Wisteria gets growing, roots will grow from every node along the stems, along with leaves.
 
On the Java Fern adventitious (= daughter) plants, I would leave them until the fronds (leaves) are much more substantial, along with the hair-like roots.  This might end up being weeks if not months.  These are the plants that do well in wood crevices when planted.  They can also be left floating.  In their natural habitat, these adventitious plants break off and float to their new "home."
 
If you want to spend money on the pruning set, fine, but I have never had one in my 20 years of planted tanks.  I do have a pair of scissors that I have used from the start exclusively in the fish tanks.  These are useful with tough plants like Java Fern if you want to remove a yellowing dying leaf.  But for most all other plants, I use my fingers.  You can go through most stems fairly easily with your thumb nail and forefinger.
 
Byron.
 
Byron said:
Leave the roots...dangling roots are a wonderful source of food for small fish, which is why you see fish in among roots so often.  Once the Wisteria gets growing, roots will grow from every node along the stems, along with leaves.
 
On the Java Fern adventitious (= daughter) plants, I would leave them until the fronds (leaves) are much more substantial, along with the hair-like roots.  This might end up being weeks if not months.  These are the plants that do well in wood crevices when planted.  They can also be left floating.  In their natural habitat, these adventitious plants break off and float to their new "home."
 
If you want to spend money on the pruning set, fine, but I have never had one in my 20 years of planted tanks.  I do have a pair of scissors that I have used from the start exclusively in the fish tanks.  These are useful with tough plants like Java Fern if you want to remove a yellowing dying leaf.  But for most all other plants, I use my fingers.  You can go through most stems fairly easily with your thumb nail and forefinger.
 
Byron.
Ha! The problem is I am a nail biter so yeah the lack of kinda makes it hard to cut that way.
 
I do kinda like how that wisteria is looking though, tends to give a more "natural" look.
 
Now that you mention it, I think what I can do is place a stone or 2 among them, for if my pair of rams want to breed, having those roots near where they would have the fry might be a huge advantage for the fry then.
 

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