rules question

[freshmike]

nonetheless, it still cheapens the process.
ok, why don't we just call it "aquabid photo of the month" instead, better?

Way to be rational about something so simple bud. This is not a big deal.....and people like you have to blow things WAY out of proportion. Good man.


Yeah, go ahead, be mad at me and call me a loser. I could give a crap what you think about me. Look at you. Weak.

 

[wuvmybetta]

uhhhm

Let's not all get too hasty here. I adore everybody in this thread so this is aimed at all of you. Is this the way to go about things? Where's the community,where's the love? Just....shhh.

The staff will discuss this tomorrow and have an answer. As of right now, I don't think we have a set rule since it's only a fairly new occurence. Rolln's being the first I believe. I have mixed feelings on it..of course it Is your fish and by rights your picture (not just you,Sorrell, I say you in general) and it should be yours to use BUT...
then there's the guy who has an equally beautiful betta and he worked for 2 hours to get that beautiful shot.

Now I feel that bkk merely spoke his mind on the subject, differing opinions is no reason to have hard feelings toward fellow members.Please you guys,don't even go there over something like this. As I said, we'll have an answer by tomorrow.

 

[rollntider]

personally i dont see anything wrong with it , because we are voting for the fish , not the photography. This isnt a "photography" type of thing., we are voting on the actual fish and we can all enjoy it. I am sorry you pulled yours sorrell, but I understand. I think my contreversy got started because someone tried to pass a fish off that wasnt theres and got caught and threw me into the mix...LOL Although I can see BKK's side but we arent a photography site. There isnt any prize money and it is voted as a popularity contest. So....I think we are all arguing a moot point. Good luck with your nice fish sorrell , I hope they win (if they arent going against mine )

EDIT:I didnt see you post kelly maybe there needs to be a rule, I personally will from now on put a disclaimer if I didnt take the pic

 

[Sorrell]

My nice fish are no longer in there. I had three nominated this month. I decided just to post one in the interest of space, but after this I don't even want to be involved anymore. I know that my pictures aren't good, but my fish are and I enjoy sharing them. I'm pretty upset right now and it's not worth it. I'll still post pictures but I am done with the competitions. I really like looking at everyone fish and I hope that people like mine, but this just isn't worth the hurt feelings.

 

[GP]

Have I ever won? No.

If I'm not mistaken, didn't you win last months TOTM? Honestly, this whole competition thing is overrated. Members join, and post these very bad quality pictures, and then have their friends join just to nominate, or post the topic that says, please vote me.. It is a friendly competition. I for one do not agree with it, because it's purpose is to find out which fish/tank is supposedly the most enjoyed by the members. Could this also be saying that the competition is meant to say, my fish/tank is better then yours? Absolutely.

 

[nightlife20]

Honestly, this whole competition thing is overrated. Members join, and post these very bad quality pictures, and then have their friends join just to nominate, or post the topic that says, please vote me..

but havnt you asked for nomintations also??

GodricPuffer Posted: Jun 27 2004, 08:27 AM


Nominations anyone?? lol, he is handsome..

ring a bell?


the only time i asked for nominations was when i was messin about... wasnt even in my own topic...

i dont see why ur all arguin.. when the biddin ends.. then yeah u own the fish.. but you didnt take the pic..

 

[bunjiweb]

I think that people should have to take their own pictures of the bettas for it to be entered in BOTM. Ok, some people dont have a digital camera, but its not hard to get one for around £35, and I'll have none of you telling me you cant afford that, because if you cant, then how can you afford fish!

Just my 2p but I think that using breeder photos isnt right or fair because they are usually very high quality photos that the owner obviously has had to put no effort into.

Ben

 

[CrowntailBetta]

I agree from the artistic point that using dealer photos isn't in the spirit of the thing. Having spent hours of my life happily looking for that perfect shot, it is very peeving to be beaten by a photo of a fish that wasn't even taken by the other member.

On the other hand though, the fish entered are chosen and bought for their beauty, so the whole situation is rather secondary. You can buy your prize by spending more at bettatalk or aquabid (if you are in the US that is ! ) So to say it is unfair that the photo is entered with it, there is nothing to stop you from bringing round your friend with his pro camera either.

To turn it back again, if there is no issue about just buying beautiful fish, then the only remaining judgable thing is the quality of the photo. Else, all you are judging is peoples' ability to find and buy nice fish. Effectively the dealer photo is just an extension of the above principle. In spirit however I think we should take our own photos. Saying that this isn't a photography competition is fallacious. It isn't meant to be, but effectively it is inseparable from it. My fish look good, rubbish or fantastic depending on the shot. Some pics might win me prizes, others of the same fish wouldn't even get nominated. The photographic element is inseparable unless we all gather together with our fish in person to be judged. Until that time (and I think a TFF fish expo would be fun ), all we have to work on is the photos, and the skill of taking a good photo should be included, it being far more valuable than the skill of going to your local fish shop and buying something expensive, anyone can do that!

Beyond that, all I have to say is that taking pictures of your fish is fun. Doing it will improve your skills and when you get that kick ass photo it will make it all worthwhile and much more satisfying.

 

[cometcattle]

Well said CrowntailBetta.

 

[treefrog]

I hesitated to ask this question, because I was afraid of starting a fight, but I never dreamed people would start pulling their pics.

Sorrell please put your pics back in the contest. We all know you have the fish and your pics of them are comparable to the aquabid ones. You are an excellent photographer and I have taken great pleasure in watching your pictures improve week by week. To be honest I wasn't even aware that you hadn't taken those yourself. And any of those fish are definetly BOTM caliber.

My intention was not to make anyone pull their pics, I just was curious on the rules. I do want to point out that Sorrell's are not the only fish whose aquabid pics are posted.

 

[freshmike]

Have I ever won? No.

If I'm not mistaken, didn't you win last months TOTM?

I think you are mistaken.

 

[jacblades]

when people say, "its not photograph of the month", i think thats a bit wrong. i dont see too many blurry or bad photos nominated.
i think its a combination of both-photography and the beauty of the fish. you can have a good photo of an ugly fish and it probably wont get nominated. or a gorgeous fish in a bad photo that would get nominated. it works both ways but i dont think those of us that spend time taking good photos should be in the same competition with professional thai photographers
maybe if you are going to post an aquabid pic, post one of your own too

umm...sorrell i dont see why you think you take bad pics...ive never seen a bad pic once

 

[bkk_group]

nonetheless, it still cheapens the process.
ok, why don't we just call it "aquabid photo of the month" instead, better?

Way to be rational about something so simple bud. This is not a big deal.....and people like you have to blow things WAY out of proportion. Good man.


Yeah, go ahead, be mad at me and call me a loser. I could give a crap what you think about me. Look at you. Weak.

whatever freshmike, whatever

 

[FanOFish]

Have I ever won? No. Does it feel good to just be nominated? Yes. So what?! )

Relax.

I agree with you FM....if you own the fish you should be able to nominate it......but I am shocked to hear that you have never won......maybe you need some tips on how to photo your fish ...... Just kidding man, you have the most amazing photos and it amazes me you have never won.....

 

[Bangin]

As a member that has not participated in the OTMs, I believe the picture should be taken by the person who submitted it. I'd feel good if I won an OTM with a picture taken by somebody else, but I'd feel wonderful if I won an OTM with a picture that was taken by me.

But, hey, I haven't participated in the OTMs, I just vote for 'em.