Rhy's Juwel Rio 125L Tropic To Marine Attempt!

Looks like a berghia to me, you lucky chap :good:

Seffie x


Just googled 'berghia' and thats EXACTLY what it looks like! thanks for the ID! And read up a bit on them, pretty chuffed I have one lol! wonder why you can't buy them in fish stores?

Any idea what the trachy/lobo/wellsophyllia is?


Rhy
 
If I had to take a guess, I would say Wellsy Brain. They generally have that "Closed Brain" structure to them.

EDIT: They all have similar requirements. Would suggest feeding once or twice a week with something meaty like mysis. They are voracious eaters.
 
Thanks Nemo!

Sure does look like a wellso alright, guy at the fish store said it was lobo but I thought he was wrong. It's great to look at, completely deflated now and loads of short stubby tenticles all over it at the moment (I guess it's hungry).

Thought my candy cane/trumpet coral (whichever it is) would have fluoresced under LEDs but it doesn't :( Ah well, its still a beaut.

Anyone know any good corals that fluoresce??? Right now the right side of my tank fluoresces like crazy when the LEDs are on, and the other side has nothing! Thinking of maybe getting some florida ricordeas from fishmansfrags....


Rhy
 
New pics

CandyCane coral
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Wellso (harpo the clownfish wouldn't leave the camera alone!)
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Cleo the sixline wrasse...still worried that she might have white spot
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My two clowns, seem to be stuck in one corner
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FTS
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Also upon closer inspection (a little manipulation of my orange zoa rock), I found that on that one rock, not only do I have neon orange zoas, and neon yellow zoas but... there are also a couple of BLUE zoas! I wanna put them on a separate rock, gonna google zoa fraging hehe. [they didn't come out too good in the blue light, but they are gorgeous and on the bottom of the rock, below the yellow]

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rhy
 
Fragging zoas is very simple... simply cut the mat the polyps grow on up and away from the rock, and re attach elsewhere.

Tank does look great :good:
 
Tank's looking great Rhy!!
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Cheers mate! :) Much appreciated :):) Still getting used to the marine thing!


Fragging zoas is very simple... simply cut the mat the polyps grow on up and away from the rock, and re attach elsewhere.

Tank does look great :good:

Thanks Nemo, Gonna try fragging the Zoas tonight, will take pics as I go along (if I can) Hopefully I'll be able to get those powder blue zoas free from the encroaching mass of neon orange and yellow!


Still worried about my sixline and potential white spot. Called the fish store I got him from (not my regular LFS) they said they hadn't noticed anything and they'd still let her into the tank as she's probably just stressed. She hasn't shown any other signs of white spot (rubbing off rocks, poor feeding etc), in fact she's eating everything and seems to swim about inbetween crevices as she likes, so hopefully I'm just being a bit over observant and worrisome!


Rhy
 
So my first ever fragging... completed (wanted to say 'successful' but won't know till the frags open up lol)

It was hard getting pics (with hands wet and all)

I had my 1st year med school anatomy kit out (can't believe I still have that junk), so 2 tweezers, stainless steel scissors, scapel and blades. But for some of the rock, the scapel just didnt cut it (excuse the pun). Luckily I also keep a bonsai tree (18yrs old now) and have a few very strong branch cutters, ended up having to use them (which made the process SOOO much easier).

I also went a wee bit 'frag crazy' cause it was so fun and now have 5 frags hehe.

First, as promised, colours under LEDs (crap pics but its hard to get that glow on camera)
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Also, Here's the wellso's true colours (before it just looked blue, had to fiddle with settings and flash etc)
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NOW!:-
Here's the mother rock with incision lines, the part to be fragged is the bit with 3-4 heads above the red incision line:-
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3 different types of zoas
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And this one I got three frags, One powder blue frag, one neon yellow frag, and one mixed poweder blue/neon yellow frag (just couldnt separate them)
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Equipment that I used. Watched a few Youtube vids before I attempted this and they all looked so rough. Needless to say I was a lot more careful with my corals (cant afford to loose any at this point!)
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And here are the frags, where they will end up being:- (Not the neatest job, I know!) I used rubble to attach the coral on to, and I used LIQUID super glue (just because it's all I had, and I was a tad bit inpatient, I know GEL is better). Prefer the rubble effect TBH over the plugs that you can buy, I think it just looks more natural when you place it about your tank.
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My sister, happens to have a HUGE kenya tree, so I stole a tiny baby bit of it.
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Hope they open up (fingers crossed) and hope they spread! Will update you all on how the frags get on in the coming weeks! Wish me luck!



EDIT: as I type this up, 4 out of the 5 polyps have at least one head partially opened! (EXCITEMENT)
 
your tanks looking great. the corals look very nice under your new lights and im sure even better in person
 
Thanks a mil :) much appreciated! it's getting there!

So I'm not sure if anyone else can see it, but I really think the sixline might have early whitespot (see above photos from previous post). Her tail just isn't... well it isn't perfect. The guys at the LFS said it'd not be common for a sixline to get disease as they are super hardy but it's still possible.

Anyways, I haven't REALLY convinced myself either but I've decided to treat the tank! (I cannot get her out of the tank to a QT, as soon as she sees a net she dives into the TINIEST hole she can find and stays there till the net is removed, very smart fish). The only thing that could potentially treat it, as far as I understand, that is also reef safe is Herbtana, so I turned off the protein skimmer, removed the carbon and phosphate remover and gave the first dose today.

The coral didnt seem too happy though. The torch kinda... shrivelled. It didnt retract, but its tentacles just shrivelled up and the yellow star polyps retracted as did the zoas and toadstool. Fingers crossed it is reef safe like it says on the bottle.


On a brighter note, all frags were open when I got home today (excitement) and I bought a new little piece of coral called the metallic green star polyp. Kinda just looks like grass. Don't have a pic yet as they all retracted into their colonial encrusting body.

Let's hope this herbtana does the trick over the next 10days. I'm uncomfortable with the protein skimmer and carbon gone for so long, but what can i do????


Rhy :(
 
I'm uncomfortable with the protein skimmer and carbon gone for so long, but what can i do????

Stop treating the tank, put the carbon back and turn the skimmer on :good:

One of the Golden rules of reef keeping is never add something to the tank that you are not testing for. If you want to add medication you need to take the fish out of the tank. However be aware that stress in some fish can cause what looks like white spot but it then clears up in a couple of days never to return :look:

Seffie x
 
I hear ya seffie!
But loads of people have had success with this product (and loads havent as well) but everyone agrees that it is at least reef safe (doesn't harm anything).

I'm on day 5 treating with herbtana, and all the sixline's spots have gone. She looks amazing now :), will probably keep the treatment going for the full 10 days and then water change. Corals are doing great with the nightly treatments, toadstool in particular is out all the time, even at lights out :) so fingers crossed I'll be able to get these parasites out of my tank!

Heres some pics

The candy cane with its tentacles out!!! Funny to see cause these guys look so inanimate most of the time!
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Wellso with its tentacles out at dinner time! Didn't think I'd be too impressed with the wellso, but its now one of my fav corals. It keeps changing shape and size, tentacles in and out, it's great!
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Video of my hermit changing shells!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Really cool to watch! Their bodies are so weirdly shaped. You have to see this! The change happens almost at the end of the clip!



Enjoy
 
Brief Update, will do proper update later.

Sorry for the extended absence. I started working crazy hours in hospital and then I was away for 2 weeks vacation and asked my sis to look after the tank and well a number of things have happened since I got back.

1)All white spot cleared up, no corals seemed affected by it at all, all the fish seemed happy etc :):):) , then a few weeks later I went on vacation, leaving VERY clear instructions but alas; upon my return:-

2) Half of the trumpet coral has died :( and the other half is no longer green in the centre but a purply pink, and although since I got back and have been looking after the tank, no further heads have died; it still worries me that it looks like it's expelled its photosynthetic zooxanthellae.

3) Emerald crab apparently found some algae on my lovely orange zoa rock and seemed to decide that zoas taste good as well, my sis said she caught him picking at a few, anyways when I got back from home almost all the zoas on that rock were eaten/died off. They've started coming back since I've been back but they are a different colour (instead of a rim of orange, the centre is orange with brown edges. Anyone know how that happened???)

4) A few of the torch heads died off and the torch was very much so retracted. Again, it's started coming back out now and no further loses. I think my large powerhead had stopped working while I was away but I yanked it out, gave it a clean and all is well again.

5) Clove coral polyps almost completely died out, only now coming back slowly but at least they are coming back so I'm happy.

6) Tubeworms refused to come out for the first few days I was back but are now both slowly peeping out.

7) The tank appeared to have a massive algae problem, even with 5 nassarius, 4 turbos, 3 hermits, 1 emerald crab etc. I'm still dealing with the algae bloom, might have been from my sis overfeeding. Phosphate remover is in tank but i've noticed red and green algae over the sand and now moving up to the rocks.

8) With the alage bloom, when I returned, the purple gorgonian (sea whip) was almost completely covered in algae with NO polyps out :(, I thought it may have been dead but I left it in the tank, cleaned off the algae gently and now parts of it are going purple again with polyps showing so I have my fingers crossed.

9) Lost 2 ricordeas (literally), can't find them in tank, sister cant remember seeing them :( Also lost my fire/blood shrimp... again no body to speak of! ????

ON a brighter note, the fish seem much larger, much better coloured, and happy. The shrimp are bigger too and doing great as are the CUC. The starfish, Patrick, looks amazing and gets into the funniest of places. The toadstool and kenya frags have doubled in size, especially the toadstool which is now HUGE. The wellso is also doing quite well!

Bit upset about the events of the last 2 months, the tank is slowly recovering. Next time I guess it's just better to leave more specific instructions. The only real worry I have now is the trumpet (due to its new pink colouration :( and the algae.

I think the other corals are recovering (fingers crossed they will soon look like their normal selves.) The torch has made a great recovery and the gorgonian is so much better than when I came home.


*Bit distressed and disenchanted*
 

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