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The Ancistrus I have produce super vulnerable babies that free swim with huge yellow yolk sacs. Other fish look at them like we would at small warm creatures made of lasagna. They rarely survive in communities.
If Dad leaves the cave, he has stopped guarding. Males are dedicated parents until the fry can swim, at which point he becomes a deadbeat Dad.

If I want young, I remove them just before freeswimming, or breed them in their own tank. In a planted community, I get survivors, but maybe one or two per brood.
 
there are three possible situations:

1. There were no fry initially and it was a very strange coincidence that the plecos went bye bye for a bit and the man decided caves were IN. Or maybe trying to find a cave to woo his lady love
2. Dad took a break to come out for food and there’s still eggs in there
3. Chainsaw baby massacre a la angelfish and neon tetras… the rock is in a spot that the angelfish would have a very awkward time reaching so. Viva la neons? Either way someone ate like a king
 
What would you guys say are good cat breeds with minimal dander?

I’m pretty allergic to cats, but I’m still pretty bummed that it probably means I can never own a cat.

It’s not so much the fur that I’m allergic too— it’s the dander. And whatever is in their nails. I get rashes where they touch and sneeze enough to power a space shuttle. But then again the only experience I have are with outdoor cats/strays that always feel grungy.

But the reason I ask instead of just accepting that a cat is probably not a possibility for me—

I’m equally allergic to dogs.

Which is a massive crime so I have three dogs anyway. Small husky types. And I do actually really well. (Even got my allergies professionally tested— on a scale of 0-4 my cat and dog allergies were both 3)

I had thought I had just built of a natural immunity by living with them through sheer force of will, but that was disproven pretty quickly when my eldest dog was attacked by another dog and had to get half of her head and neck shaved. Basically: she had a massive chunk of skin directly touching air and my nose and eyes went crazy when I spent too long with her during recovery. One time I endured it and by the time I spent 2 hours with her my chest was physically hurting and my eyes were swollen. But. The hair is about maybe 60% back now and I no longer have any issues with her. Sleep with her every night in my bed.

So I was thinking it might be the same with cats— if the hair is longer and “traps” the dander or if they don’t give off that much or are a regularly groomed indoor cat— I might be able to realize my cat dreams LOL
 
What would you guys say are good cat breeds with minimal dander?

I’m pretty allergic to cats, but I’m still pretty bummed that it probably means I can never own a cat.

Oh man, I'm so sorry! You sound like me with wanting a pack of dogs, and cats too... my folks always had loads and I grew up with having lots of both, and I always felt bad for people with allergies to animals they really love and want to have! Must be awful, and I know if I was allergic I'd be the same way and still have dogs and cats and just suffer through the allergies 😭 since I couldn't imagine not having them!

I wish I could help. Don't know enough about allergies, or which cat breeds might be better for you. In your shoes, I think I'd read up on the various ones, then see if a breeder will let you visit and spend some time with their cats/kittens, and seeing how you react.

If it's the skin and claws, maybe a tight curly coat breed like a rex? Wouldn't be so sheddy as long haired cats like a Main Coone, or need as much grooming, so you wouldn't have to force as much contact But I don't know whether their coat is more oily and might cause a reaction for you. The only way I can imagine testing it is spending some time with a house full of them like someone who breeds them.

Problem would be you'd be surrounded by adorable kittens/lovely adult cats, and would be easy to fall in love, make an impulse decision and wind up coming home with a kitten or two, even if you're horribly allergic to them ;):lol:

Sorry to hear your dog was hurt by another dog. 😭 Glad to hear she survived and is recovering though. Have been through it when our spaniel was attacked by a staffy that ran out of a house and went straight for our senior spaniel, bit into his chest/shoulder area and wouldn't let go. Kept tearing at the muscle while our dog screamed and four people struggled to get the dog to let go.

I wasn't there when it happened, but was right after when we rushed our dog to the vet and had to help him recover from this horrible injury and the anxiety about other dogs after that. If that dog had bitten him just a few inches to the throat, could have easily killed him, and that haunts me. It's traumatic to go through that, for both the dog and the humans that love them and both have to recover. Poor thing. It really is a traumatic thing to go through, and I'm so sorry you and your girl went through it too! Please give her a cuddle from me. And let us know about how cat shopping goes!
 
Sorry to hear your dog was hurt by another dog. 😭 Glad to hear she survived and is recovering though.
It was the worst 35 seconds of my life 💀 if my neighbor didn’t catch it on their driveway camera I would’ve sworn the entire thing lasted at least five minutes. Her head practically vanished in the attacker dogs mouth.

Her left ear was almost completely severed and needed reattached. And there was a deep 5 inch long gouge on the back of her neck. The vet said her skull was visible through one of them. She spent 3 days in the vet.

It’s a friggen miracle she’s recovered so well. No hearing loss, no damaged eyes, no cracked skull or neck, and she’s even managed to get the majority of motion back in her ear. Once her fur finishes growing back, the only sign of it will be her left ear being a slight bit smaller than the right.

from this horrible injury and the anxiety about other dogs after that. If that dog had bitten him just a few inches to the throat, could have easily killed him, and that haunts me. It's traumatic to go through that,

It’s just so terrifying how everything can be so normal and then it’s just suddenly not be.

And honestly— I don’t think Ellie even remembers the attack. She hasn’t had a personality change, while my other two dogs who witnessed it basically had all of their socialization undone in an instant. It’s been rough trying to retrain them.

Was your spaniel okay? How did they recover? That sounds like a horrible recovery
 
I’m equally allergic to dogs.

Which is a massive crime so I have three dogs anyway. Small husky types.

Like Klee Kai's? 😍 Would love to see pic(s) of them!
It was the worst 35 seconds of my life 💀 if my neighbor didn’t catch it on their driveway camera I would’ve sworn the entire thing lasted at least five minutes. Her head practically vanished in the attacker dogs mouth.

Urgh, it's horrifying! I would feel compelled to watch the video to try to process what happened, try to figure out a way to stop it. But at the same time, it's horrible to see any dog being attacked, and worse when it's your own baby! They're family members. Part of me wishes I was there, that maybe I could have stopped it. But my dad was just walking down the street, Jack on the lead plodding along with him on their usual morning routine to fetch his paper from the local shop up the road, then go to the park and walk the dog, who was 10/11 when this happened in 2017. So dad was also 78. Senior man walking the most submissive, non-aggressive Spaniel on lead on the pavement.

Someone opened the door and their very dog aggressive shot out of their uncontained yard, ran straight for my dad and Jack, and went straight for a killing bite. Couldn't have avoided it, it happened so fast. Fortunately neighbours saw and stepped in to help my dad and Jack and try to get this dog off of Jack. Apparently it took a long time, because it had a solid grip and was only clamping down harder while four men including my dad did everything they could to stop it, and very distressed by our dogs panicked and pained screams.

But they eventually did, and I'm sorta glad there's no video of it. A neighbour drove my dad and Jack to our house, dad and I rushed him to the vet. His injuries were no where near as severe as your poor pups. But it did tear his shoulder muscle badly and caused a lot of bleeding and soft tissue damage. Thankfully he was insured. He only had to spend the day there while they cleaned, stitched what had to be stitched, put him on a drip and monitored him for a while.
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Because as I'm sure you know now, the risk of infection is high, wounds need to heal from the inside out when there are those deep puncture wounds from the teeth, and can't just stitch them closed and risk trapping nasty germs in there and causing an infection. Because it was his chest, damage to the shoulder muscles and where the bite was, couldn't really bandage it up, although the vet and we tried to for a while to keep it clean. He didn't usually wear clothes, we got some kids T-shirts to protect the damaged area from dirt and infection, but he did have to go back in for another cleaning and more antibiotics when it did get infected. :(

Had to try to restrict his movement and encourage him to rest, since jumping about and running through mud and hedges in mucky February British weather is brilliant fun to Spaniels, but not good for healing a torn muscle and puncture wounds! Since he was already a senior and was having gentle strolls 2-3 times per day before, he was a bit frustrated at first, since he'd get so excited for their routine walks, and upset about being left behind and not able to go for a few days, and then the very limited gradually increased strolls as he recovered.

But he was spoiled and loved on, and apart from having to return for infection and another deep clean/trimming of dead tissue, he made a full physical recovery. He was very distressed for the first few days, didn't really seem to understand what had happened. We were more worried about unknown dogs and potential dog on dog attacks than he was. As he felt better he returned pretty much to normal, was fine with all the dogs he knew from regular neighbour dog walking friends, only showing some apprehension if a dog charged at him, even if it was a friendly but too enthusiastic lab. Might have reminded him, and to be fair, most dogs would be apprehensive about a charging dog. I'm sure my own nerves and anxiety transferred straight down the lead to both him and my own Spaniel/Collie cross. You know how they read our moods and reactions I'm sure! Tried to be confident, cool "leader", but it isn't easy after something like that.

He was a sweetie, didn't become reactive or anything. He lived to 15 and passed because of a brain tumour five years later, so unrelated to the attack. But I'd naturally talked to the vet a lot when taking him in and collecting him, and she mentioned that when she operated, she could see that if the dog had moved it's bite, or released and bitten again, he was very close to hitting an artery. Lots of veins and arteries in that area since it's close to the heart, and that stuck in my head and haunts me, that the bite was so close to one that would have killed him within 2-3 minutes, and the dog was so aggressive towards other dogs, but the people who had him knew he was dog aggressive, but didn't take steps to muzzle train him for walks (basket muzzles let the dog pant, drink etc and are needed for aggressive dogs in public. Greyhound owners use them often since ex-racing dogs could easily catch and kill smaller furries like cats), or keep him safely contained, when they lived right by a park and there are so many dogs in the neighbourhood. Just so irresponsible.
It’s just so terrifying how everything can be so normal and then it’s just suddenly not be.

Was your spaniel okay? How did they recover? That sounds like a horrible recovery

And honestly— I don’t think Ellie even remembers the attack. She hasn’t had a personality change, while my other two dogs who witnessed it basically had all of their socialization undone in an instant. It’s been rough trying to retrain them.

Since a lot of this is graphic and distressing, but important for dog owners to work through and process! Just want to say I'm happy to talk if you pm me and want to debrief/process, or talk above details about attacks, how to try to avoid and prevent them, how to handle it if it does happen! I read up a lot about it, because other neighbours have experienced dog on dog attacks too. I was talking to one friend when a dog charged towards us aggressively, and my friend instantly grabbed her labradoodle and put him over a fence into a "no dogs allowed" children's play area. I was so impressed with her quick thinking, because the dog was still aggressive and frustrated it couldn't get at her dog through the fence.

I carry a few items in my dog walking bag. Along with poop bags, treats, a pot of pepper, is a thin leather spare dog lead, and a slip on lead. Useful if you find an escaped or stray dog. But can also be used to choke a dog that is attacking so it's forced to release its bite in order to breathe. Don't like the idea of hurting a dog, but I'm always going to protect my own dogs first. I also think it's the fasted and most effective method to stop the attack and then have the dog contained once it's released the bite, can pop the slip collar on and secure the dog to a fence/tree/whatever. Obviously I'd release the tightness of the choking once the dog releases, not aiming to kill the dog. Just to stop the attack and contain the aggressive dog for animal control/dog warden/police to deal with and it can't just run off and other dogs. Or a child.


There is a risk of getting bitten... but that's always a risk with dogs, and a dog that has it's windpipe choked is going to have to stop in order to breathe, and gives time to contain it and get your own pet to the vet. Fire extinguishers are also good for scaring a dog that's charging or attacking. The loud noise and cloud of powder usually makes them stop, a lot of animal control people and police use them, and have seen a video of a Pitbull charging in, full attack mode, then turn tail and run away, instantly freaked and changed his mind after a short blast from the fire extinguisher in his direction! Not very practical to have to lug one of those big ones around on every walk. :lol:

I wonder if one of those mini ones for home kitchens would be as effective. Worth investigating!
 
We have a decked out belt we wear on walks now and I hate the necessity of it. But it’s definitely something to realize that you don’t have the strength to fight off an 80 pound dog attacking.

Ellie is currently curled against my shoulders as I type! She likes to lay on the back of the couch behind someone’s shoulders and lean on them. She’s doing truly great.

Here is is, she’s the red and white on the left:
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Her face fur has almost completely grown in and now you can only really notice the shortness of the hair on her neck. And yeah… her left ear is noticeably shorter where they had to reconstruct it. The attack happened at the beginning of May

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We have a decked out belt we wear on walks now and I hate the necessity of it. But it’s definitely something to realize that you don’t have the strength to fight off an 80 pound dog attacking.

Ellie is currently curled against my shoulders as I type! She likes to lay on the back of the couch behind someone’s shoulders and lean on them. She’s doing truly great.

Here is is, she’s the red and white on the left:
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Her face fur has almost completely grown in and now you can only really notice the shortness of the hair on her neck. And yeah… her left ear is noticeably shorter where they had to reconstruct it. The attack happened at the beginning of May

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Oh, they're so beautiful and so adorable!! 😍

I want one! What breed(s) are they??

I see the ear.. poor thing. But yes, considering how serious it was and how recent, she's making an amazing recovery! So glad about that! ❤️
 
What breed(s) are they??
You actually got it in your earlier post—- Ellie and Kaia, the black and white one, are Klee Kai’s lol. Ellie is standard sized at 23 pounds and Kaia is a miniature and topped out at 14 pounds.

They talk to us. All day. With that weird half howl thing. 10/10 would recommend.

The pure white one, Yuki, is a Jindo mix we got through the dove project (suspecting a corgi or Jack Russel because her legs are terribly itty bitty and her torso goes on for days). She was predicted to grow to 35 pounds by the rescue but her legs decided to stop growing and she topped out at 25 pounds

She’s a very good weighted heated blanket. Very anxious toasted marshmallow.
 
Those are some cute pups!
They say Siamese and Russian Blues are low-allergy pets. Mrs. Badger recently found a Russian Blue at a shelter--I'm pretty sure she's pure bred! What are the odds? Anyway, our Badgerling is pretty allergic to cats but the ladies love having them around. Me? Not so much. If I'm going to pay for feed something I at least want it to act happy to see me when I come home. :lol:
 
The one thing I’ve always heard about gerbils/hamsters, from relatives that have them, is that one will always eventually murder the others. Bloodthirsty little demons.
 

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