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[Rocky998]

This thread took a very dark turn though a couple of pages. If that which doesn't kill you mutates, it isn't mutating to kill you. Don't take it personally. It may be mutating to kill, but you're a minor organism in its scheme of things. Know your weaknesses. Your strengths are of no interest to people who will mistreat you. They look for vulnerabilities.

I cant completely speak for the member you brought up in that statement but I will say, I don't think you have the right to say that about their condition.
You don't have it, and I don't either. From what I have heard though, it started off as a few harmless symptoms and then progressed into a very painful disease that not only affects you physically but, just like many other conditions, it takes a toll on you mentally.
So while the disease is not actively TRYING to kill and does not have the cognitive function to actually know what its doing, the person with the illness may feel as though it keeps mutating to kill. And its definitely a sad point of view but you are not the one fighting it.
Now this can also be a mental battle and struggle with "it mutates to kill". And I will say I feel as though I'm a victim to that.
I pulled myself out of public school to avoid many things but you know what's funny? Its almost like it just followed me right into my home. That didn't stop me just being home more often with my brother who has multiple mental conditions that cause severe behavioral issues and outbursts.
So in a way I feel like when I tried to solve an issue another one rose and my problems in life just "mutated" to still reach me.
And what i thought would fix the loneliness only made it worse.
I pulled out with the assumption that I wouldn't make any friends in public school because I was always bullied and never made any true friends and right when I got close to someone, something always happened. So I figured being alone at home would be better than being broken down at school. And who knows, maybe I did save myself more than I know, but being completely alone is a different type of loneliness....

In a way I do believe that quote: "What doesn't kill you mutates and tries again"

 

[Deleted member 149562]

It is sad

Youngsters are so easily offended by every little word, phrase or action thesedays.

What chance do they have of surviving in the adult world when as a teenager they cower in the corner afraid of what might get said or done by another person

When you consider that youngsters of 15 upwards (many who lied about their age) went to fight for their country or worked in factories to help make ends meet whilst their brothers, fathers and other family members went to war

What have humans become...too afraid of words, too worried about actions

Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me

Kids thesedays are too afraid of their own shadows........toughen up boys and girls, toughen up cos life hiding in your bedroom is not going to prepare you for real life crisis, pain or strife as an adult.

 

[Rocky998]

It is sad

Youngsters are so easily offended by every little word, phrase or action thesedays.

What chance do they have of surviving in the adult world when as a teenager they cower in the corner afraid of what might get said or done by another person

When you consider that youngsters of 15 upwards (many who lied about their age) went to fight for their country or worked in factories to help make ends meet whilst their brothers, fathers and other family members went to war

What have humans become...too afraid of words, too worried about actions

Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me

Kids thesedays are too afraid of their own shadows........toughen up boys and girls, toughen up cos life hiding in your bedroom is not going to prepare you for real life crisis, pain or strife as an adult.

It wasn't only words used against me so you know.

 

[Deleted member 149562]

It wasn't only words used against me so you know.

Sorry but you are going to face far worse once you are an adult. Life can be cruel, you just have to learn to roll with the punches, grow a thicker skin against the words and just face whatever comes your way and deal with it, not hide from it.

 

[Rocky998]

Sorry but you are going to face far worse once you are an adult. Life can be cruel, you just have to learn to roll with the punches, grow a thicker skin against the words and just face whatever comes your way and deal with it, not hide from it.

Yes I know.
Which is why I pulled out.
I figured I needed time to work on myself before I did something I'd later regret.
Trust me I try to get thicker skin every day.
Almost every single day my patience gets tested. And I have been getting better and better at "toughening up" but I don't want to be so tough that I don't have a soft side....
That is the issue I believe with all generations, we tend to think being all tough is good but we shouldn't have a need for it. If people weren't so volatile we wouldn't always need to walk around with a defensive shield.

 

[GaryE]

I cant completely speak for the member you brought up in that statement but I will say, I don't think you have the right to say that about their condition.
You don't have it, and I don't either. From what I have heard though, it started off as a few harmless symptoms and then progressed into a very painful disease that not only affects you physically but, just like many other conditions, it takes a toll on you mentally.
So while the disease is not actively TRYING to kill and does not have the cognitive function to actually know what its doing, the person with the illness may feel as though it keeps mutating to kill. And its definitely a sad point of view but you are not the one fighting it.
Now this can also be a mental battle and struggle with "it mutates to kill". And I will say I feel as though I'm a victim to that.
I pulled myself out of public school to avoid many things but you know what's funny? Its almost like it just followed me right into my home. That didn't stop me just being home more often with my brother who has multiple mental conditions that cause severe behavioral issues and outbursts.
So in a way I feel like when I tried to solve an issue another one rose and my problems in life just "mutated" to still reach me.
And what i thought would fix the loneliness only made it worse.
I pulled out with the assumption that I wouldn't make any friends in public school because I was always bullied and never made any true friends and right when I got close to someone, something always happened. So I figured being alone at home would be better than being broken down at school. And who knows, maybe I did save myself more than I know, but being completely alone is a different type of loneliness....

In a way I do believe that quote: "What doesn't kill you mutates and tries again"

I think you're misinterpreting @Rocky998 . I was responding to the general conversation of trusting no one, disliking everyone that I read. It wasn't just you talking. I certainly have the right to comment on that. I take the sig file in question as a clever line. It's kind of tongue in cheek. It isn't about one person's condition. It's a statement about the human condition.

If right now you're feeling that it directly relates to you as one person in this world, then you are in a rough place and could probably do well to talk with someone about it. It's what I'd do, for what it's worth.

All IDEAS are in play in this world. You put them out there, and others have the right to discuss them. If you don't want them discussed, hold on to them. A person's health is not an idea, and there, the rules are different in my books. @wasmewasntit has opinions I disagree with, and if I feel like it I'll disagree. It would be rude, and wrong, to disagree with her identity, her genetics, her culture, etc, but what she chooses to say about ideas is fair game. I hope no one posts ideas without thinking that.

You Rocky, whoever you are, are a good decent person, and I expect I'd buck the trend here and trust you for that. I may not agree with you, but on that question of works, I have never seen you say anything malicious or mean. I was not responding to what caused the conversation, but to the ideas expressed, which seemed a depression feeding wormhole to me. I know more about you now, and about where your sensitivity comes from. But I think we can't give in to negativity, and we can get past it. There are lots of people out there who would treat you well and appreciate you.

 

[Rocky998]

I think you're misinterpreting @Rocky998 . I was responding to the general conversation of trusting no one, disliking everyone that I read. It wasn't just you talking. I certainly have the right to comment on that. I take the sig file in question as a clever line. It's kind of tongue in cheek. It isn't about one person's condition. It's a statement about the human condition.

I definitely could have misunderstood your statement and I apologize if so.
I may have took it the wrong way, so I am sorry.
I agree now that yes you have absolutely 100% the right to comment on it in that sense. I took what you said more literally than I should of I think...

If right now you're feeling that it directly relates to you as one person in this world, then you are in a rough place and could probably do well to talk with someone about it. It's what I'd do, for what it's worth.

Yah, maybe... I've been thinking about that. Someone I've been speaking to also want me to go to a therapist or counselor... I'm just afraid to take that step. Plus the hospital I go to is in a military base in a community of vets that need help more than I do. I would feel selfish taking a spot like that.
So I try to just put a smile on other people's face and my own daily. And sometimes it works, other times not so much.

All IDEAS are in play in this world. You put them out there, and others have the right to discuss them. If you don't want them discussed, hold on to them. A person's health is not an idea, and there, the rules are different in my books. @wasmewasntit has opinions I disagree with, and if I feel like it I'll disagree. It would be rude, and wrong, to disagree with her identity, her genetics, her culture, etc, but what she chooses to say about ideas is fair game. I hope no one posts ideas without thinking that.

Yes I can completely agree Gary. You are correct.

You Rocky, whoever you are, are a good decent person, and I expect I'd buck the trend here and trust you for that. I may not agree with you, but on that question of works, I have never seen you say anything malicious or mean. I was not responding to what caused the conversation, but to the ideas expressed, which seemed a depression feeding wormhole to me. I know more about you now, and about where your sensitivity comes from. But I think we can't give in to negativity, and we can get past it. There are lots of people out there who would treat you well and appreciate you.

Thank you, sir. That means a lot. I appreciate it.
I will be honest I've been on both sides of the battle line lol. I went from being bullied to being the bully. Luckily that only was a very small period in my life. But I learned a lot from it. Happiness never came with hurting others, in fact all it did was feed a selfish ego that made me even more angry. When I saw what it was doing to me as a person and to my morals of what I believe in I knew I had to change. I started making changes and you know what was funny? Right when people noticed I changed I was being bullied yet again. But then there were others who had a respect for me.
There were 0 that truly appreciated my bully side (maybe some thought it was cool or whatever) but there were people that truly appreciated my kind side. There were not many but the ones that did respect those qualities I hung around more and got along with better. Time filtered through them as well. I found I only had two friends. But then one of them left and the other.... I don't know what happened really. That was strange.

We can get past negativity! I do believe that!
Just got to combat it I suppose I the right way. I don't know whether I am or not still.

And it can be hard to REALLY understand the predicaments of others through a screen.
I don't like going through the details of my dark side on a public forum. I don't say what I deal with unless I REALLY want you guys to understand. Which I do and I don't.
Mostly don't because it's really private stuff and I only trust one person in my life with it. Actually two but that's getting religious
I mostly just give you guys a small summary of the stuff and leave a lot of other things out.

I thank you for the compliments. I really appreciate it.

 

[PheonixKingZ]

Faith isn't just religion. It's a way of thinking I mistrust. You may interpret it as religious, but it isn't.

I can have faith my car will start every time, but it’s not religion. You’re right in that aspect.


Why did you randomly have to bring it up though?

 

[PheonixKingZ]

Youngsters are so easily offended by every little word, phrase or action thesedays.

So do older people, you just don’t see it that way because you’re not a teenager.

Kids thesedays are too afraid of their own shadows........toughen up boys and girls, toughen up cos life hiding in your bedroom is not going to prepare you for real life crisis, pain or strife as an adult.

Lol, you act like every single teenager out there is a fat gamer kid who does nothing but play video games and eat junk food all day. That’s not reality.

 

[Deleted member 149562]

You youngsters need to look up the word "generalisation"

It's not all about you as individuals on this site. It is a generalisation from my experience of spending time with and working alongside youngsters.

Every conversation that describes a general pattern of behaviour one or two youngsters kick off assuming it is aimed at them personally when it isn't

Maturity will hopefully make those same youngsters realise that the world and its opinions do not revolve around them or their feelings exclusively

There is alot of maturing and growing up to be done....generally

 

[Rocky998]

I agree we all have a lot of maturing to do.
But!... I will say I disagree with your views on this @wasmewasntit

 

[Rocky998]

You are not a teenager and I am not part of your generation. We will never fully understand eachother.
You have not lived my life and I haven't lived yours. We are bound to have different views

 

[Fishmanic]

I think we may be getting into too heavy a discussion about our private lives. We should keep this topic on the lighter side so as not to upset anyone.

 

[Deleted member 149562]

You are not a teenager and I am not part of your generation. We will never fully understand eachother.
You have not lived my life and I haven't lived yours. We are bound to have different views

My generation when a teenager knew and understood what a generalisation was without needing to be told or have it explained

That is the only difference tween you as a teenager and myself when I was a teenager.

 

[Deleted member 149562]

I think we may be getting into too heavy a discussion about our private lives. We should keep this topic on the lighter side so as not to upset anyone.

With all due respect it was Rocky and Phoenix who misread, misunderstood everyone and decided that general comments made by gary and myself and others were "all about them" when they were not.

That is always an issue when teens who have no life experience other than what they get at home, try and involve themselves in conversations that they do not understand fully

They continually take everything said as aimed personally when it is not.