You do great with the Pandas. My Pandas have always been quite shy. I started with 6 and am down to 3 as of a few days ago. I've hardly lost any fish, but they seem to give me fits and do their best to stay out of sight all day, even when there were 6. I think I'm going to rehome them and just up my number of Peppereds and Aeneus. Jealous of your skills!