Ok Just Got This... What The Heck Is It?

[Nevergone815]

ok i just got this "assorted new world cichlid" from my local lfs. i asked what kind they were as they looked like a hybrid. well the guy told me that someone called him up and sdaid he has some jack dempseys for the store. the yguy at the petstore didn't think it was a jack dempsey, as some looked more like firemouths, some looked like convicts (verticle striping and color), some looked more like jack dempseys, some where darker some where lighter, some were darker and some were a combo of a bunch of traits. i agree with the guy at the pet store, but i was hoping you guys could help me more define it.

I will post more pics after he is done acclimating, these pics are taken right as i got home and wanted your guys' opinions. he is going into my 55 gal and he is about 3-4"

*note- i'm using a freinds photobucket so don't think anything funny*

 

[Gankutsuou]

there are a whole lotta guys that looks like that around here

 

[Gill]

Black Convict maybe?

 

[Nevergone815]

ok i got more pics of him, he was very aggressive in the bag and actually tore a whole in it and it started to leak. ths got me a little worried, but once he got into the tank he mellowed out and is actually hiding. he is always under cover and looks so terrified, even the timid JD i got in with them scares him and my JD is the biggest wimp in the tank. he sits on the pleco and is underneath the plants hiding in the cave thingy.

here are some more pics.

the first one shows his metallic sheen better and the blue dots in his fins. he also has a blue rim around the edges of the fins.

hope these pics help more

 

[~T~]

The first pics look like the fry I had from a JBxBP but the in tank pics it looks like you have a convict x dempsey.

 

[Nevergone815]

Hey, I really don't think he's a perch, He's feels just like my JB parrot, here are a couple more pics of him. He was listed as an "assorted south american cichlid" The guy at the pet store said the guy who brought him in said he was a jack dempsey, but the guy at the petstore thinks he some cross with convicts, jack dempsey, possibly fire mouths, none of us are really sure. Thats why he didn't advertise them as dempseys, because he thought he looked like some kind of hybrid.

Heres a pic with the flash

Heres a pic with no flash

No real difference

and heres a pic of a young common perch, just to compare

*someone somewhere else suggested it may bea perch so i am jsutcopying and pasteing mostly to give mroe pics of it*

 

[Nevergone815]

kinda looks like a sajica (T bar cichlid) crossed with a firemouth.

looking at pics on google about the sajica it could be that cross.

his body seems really thin to be a sajica though. but that could be the firemouth in him.

is there any way that all of these fish are in him:

-convict
-jack dempsey
-firemouth

is it possible to just breed out the offspring and this is what they got? because he shows signs of all these fish.

-he has the verticle stripes of the convict and general body shape
-his body has that metallic sheen that my jack dempsy has along with the yellowish dot on it's side and the light blue metallic "dots" in the fins
-and his mouth definately looks like a firemouths mouth and the verticle striping going down it's body

*note* i don't know if it is a male or female... how would i tell on these? i might just get a fish of the opposite gender the next time i go and breed them and see what i get. this will release the genes into the offspring and we should theoretically get some that look like the parents then some of each of whatever it's crossed with, right?

someone suggested somewhere else that flowerhorn may be present... is this possible?

the sajica is a possibilty too...

 

[Nevergone815]

Ok, here he is compared to the most likely things he may be, let me know, thanks!!

 

[~T~]

Heres some of my forum members BPxConvict hybrids(the fish in this pic are siblings).

This is one of my JB x BP (its the only pic I can find at the mo but they others looked more like the unknown fish).

You can rule out sajica x convict cos all mine were shaped like a sajica.

 

[Nevergone815]

So far I've had people say he may be a
-con/sajica (t-bar cichlid) cross
-Texas/Con cross
-Firemouth/Con cross
-Jack Dempsey/Firemouth/Con
-Young, stressed female firemouth
-Jack Dempsey/Con cross
-There are others but these came up the most


I personally don't think hes a full firemouth considering at the lfs they have a tank of Juvi firemouths his size and they look nothing alike color wise. Also the man who gave him to the LFS to sell said they were Jack Demseys, so they must have JD in them somewhere. *sigh* I don't know... lol

 

[Nevergone815]

Ok here are some more pics of him, he's less stressed and clamped today, and more colored up. So these pics are a bit better, and clear then the last And I noticed a bit of orange in the belly, which u see in female convicts and jb parrots, so my duke just may be a dutchess, lol.

 

[jonie]

Ok here are some more pics of him, he's less stressed and clamped today, and more colored up. So these pics are a bit better, and clear then the last And I noticed a bit of orange in the belly, which u see in female convicts and jb parrots, so my duke just may be a dutchess, lol.

looks to be a jdxconvictxfiremouth to me or minus the fm

 

[Nevergone815]

yea i've been getting a lot of the JD x Con thing going on. and the fish is looking more liek a giant sized JD more and more each day, but it doesn't get the metallic "dots" it is like it is permenantly the coloration of a juvie JD with the verticle stripes of a con. i will wait longer before taking new pics, i want to make sure the colors are all good and let it grow some first. probably in a couple weeks or a month even i will post new pics.

 

[Genesis]

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eh?

 

[~T~]

Put the crack pipe down genesis