Newbie To Saltwater

[Lynden]

Clown Gobies are known to fight in tanks. Also, you may have to target feed them, or else the Chromis and Clowns may outcompete the Gobies.

Oh and, for the record, I find Zebra Hermit Crabs to be far less aggressive than Bluelegs. I don't know where they got their reputation.

-Lynden

 

[n3ont3tra]

Do neon gobies fight? What about sea urchins?

Also, I heard this a long time ago: I heard it's possible to have almost any type of fish in a saltwater setup, as long as you add the salt VERY gradually, like 1/4 gallon of brackish water a week, then 1/4 of a higher salinity, making the salinity higher more every 5 weeks. It takes a long time, but I've heard it works.

 

[SkiFletch]

Neon gobies are pretty tame and won't squabble. Urchins have the nasty side effect of being capable of toppling your rock stack if you dont have things secured down

 

[rhysiboy]

its beside me why people are appealed by anemones because im not a fan of them tbh. it seems to be a phenominan (sp) tht newbies all seem to want one

 

[n3ont3tra]

Lol, I notice that too. I reallllllly want one though... I'll leave space for it for when I get better.

 

[sparklefuzz]

Lol, I knew that would be overstocked. I can't pick though!!

3 Green Chromis
2 False Percula Clownfish
1 High Fin Red Banded Goby
4 Clown Gobies
1 Neon Goby

Gobies are pretty small so it should be okay, right?
Do invertebrates count toward the stocking?
Heres what I wanted for cleaners:
5 Blue Leg Hermit Crab
5 Red Reef Hermit Crabs
5 Scarlet Cleaner Shrimp


Is that too much?

You've still got 11 fish there... you need to be thinking no more than about 5, maybe 6.

 

[n3ont3tra]

1 Clownfish
1 Neon Gobies
1 High Fin Red Banded Goby
3 Green Chromis

Do scarlet Shrimp fight?

 

[Matthew5664]

n3ont3tra> Getting there with the list, you could have;

3 Green Chromis (GC)
2 False Percula Clownfish (CF)
1 High Fin Red Banded Goby (HFRBG)
2 Neon Goby (NG)


NG wont fight most of the time but it would be safer to by them in pairs or trio's, you never no they may spawn.

Urchens (U) can tople the LR if not pillyputted... However they are good ar 'cleaning' all encrusting red algea, coralin sp. (CA) witch at first seems like a bad thing but in the long run could help as you don't have to scrape as much. My U is sumped where it just gets on withn things while the CA in the main tank takes over then the U goes in for a day to clean the back in the sump.

When adding the fish list I have picked I would go with the NG first then the HFRBG (are you hoping to pair him up with the pistol shrimp?) then the CF then the GC. All in all I would take about 3 months to introduce the fish.

Always go for tank bread (TB) over wild caught (WC). Main reson being less impact on the natural reef second there usualy hardey than the WC counterparts. The CF and NG I know are TB by Tropical Marein Centre (TMC) However the HFRBG and the BC I don't know.

Hope this helps in some way

 

[n3ont3tra]

Thanks. Also, what is the point of a sump and/or a refugium? What exactly do they do? What do you put in them?

 

[SkiFletch]

Scarlet shrimp do not fight

Usually people grow chaetomorpha macroalgae in a refugium to help remove nitrates and phosphates from the aquarium naturally

 

[n3ont3tra]

Is it needed for a 30g tank? What about smaller tanks, like 10gallons? How would I grow the algae? Does it just grow naturally?

 

[Matthew5664]

A sump does many things.

1 Increaces water volume
2 Give you somewhere to put all the equipment
3 Will aid in the serface skimming of the main tank.

A refugium can be contained it the sump or in a seperate tank and in a refuge for smaller life forms to grow to feed the main tank. You could/can algae in there it will need to be lit for this and a small ammout to get it growing.

 

[n3ont3tra]

So is a sump just another tank that only holds equiptment? And you could have a sump AND a refugium? How does it connect to the main tank?

 

[n3ont3tra]

Circumstances have changed for the better! Turns out I'll be using a 55g tank instead of 30!


I just read a thread on zooanthids and somebody touched it and they have to go to the hospital and it scared the crap out of me. Is it like that with all corals? Which ones are poisonous? I don't want any of those. That really scares me.

 

[SkiFletch]

Zooanthids are not poisonous by themselves, however zooanthid eating nudibranchs (colorful sea slugs) are poisonous. The nudibranch will eat zooanthids and super-concentrate their toxins within its body, thus making squishing a nudibranch not a good idea.

Corals can "sting" you, but its not like a bee sting or any other insect bite. Aggressive corals will secrete enzymes that SLOWLY digest your skin if you handle them without gloves. IT doesnt hurt, but it leaves your skin feeling smooth and shiny when they do it . If you're worried about that, just wear gloves