black molly3
Fish Herder
so add the gobie first then the clownfish
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Truck
UKAPS
goby, then CUC unless you want unsightly algae and detritus which can lead to high nitrates, then the clown last
black molly3
Fish Herder
ok i will get him on tuesday. then thursday cuc then maybee next monday get the clown
Truck
UKAPS
your doing things too fast, go for the goby tuesday, then wait a week and get the CUC then wait a week and get the clown
black molly3
Fish Herder
ok then thanks
TigerIssey
Queen TI
There are many people on this forum that have given you advice on your various different posts, you are planning on adding a xenia coral already, you don't seem to have even had diatoms yet, you are insistant on going with your stocking ideas regardless of advice given.
The people on this forum are very experienced in keeping marine fish happy, you are setting yourself up for a tank that will need major maintenance yet do not seem to have done any research whatsoever. Before spending money on fish and corals, you should have at least all the recommended test kits. You have still not tested nitrate levels, if you are cutting corners now, you are probably going to cut corners on tank maintenance, with a tank that small it is going to spell disaster.
I have sat reading all your posts over the lasty week, IMO you should stop what you are doing and start reading, you are rushing everything, BigC said to me when I started 2 weeks ago that I could not and should not aim for an instant reef and my tank is a lot bigger than yours. I hate to sit by and watch someone subject any animal life to the suffering it is IMO destined for in your tank. I have waited a week in between additions in my tank, in that week I have read everything I could possibly read about the addition I am about to make. You asked about xenia corals after purchasing them, if you are getting into reefing you should invest in a coral book at least, you should also read more about water chemistry for the reef tank. You need to be able to spot something going wrong in that small a tank which will be heavily pushing its stocking recommendations very very quickly. From your posts, I do not believe you are able to do that at the present time, and will unable to prevent disasters from happening.
You are going to have to watch water chemistry like a hawk, you are going to be constantly checking the SG (even though in one post you called this salinity, it is not), you are constantly going to be topping off and with heavy stocking you are going to be doing a hell of a lot of water changes, are you really ready for this commitment??
I am sorry if I appear brusque, I cannot stand to see someone ignore advice and steam ahead with what they believe is right. Please start to listen, and go and read all you can. I read for 2 years before this project and I believe this preparation time has given me a damn good start.
The people on this forum are very experienced in keeping marine fish happy, you are setting yourself up for a tank that will need major maintenance yet do not seem to have done any research whatsoever. Before spending money on fish and corals, you should have at least all the recommended test kits. You have still not tested nitrate levels, if you are cutting corners now, you are probably going to cut corners on tank maintenance, with a tank that small it is going to spell disaster.
I have sat reading all your posts over the lasty week, IMO you should stop what you are doing and start reading, you are rushing everything, BigC said to me when I started 2 weeks ago that I could not and should not aim for an instant reef and my tank is a lot bigger than yours. I hate to sit by and watch someone subject any animal life to the suffering it is IMO destined for in your tank. I have waited a week in between additions in my tank, in that week I have read everything I could possibly read about the addition I am about to make. You asked about xenia corals after purchasing them, if you are getting into reefing you should invest in a coral book at least, you should also read more about water chemistry for the reef tank. You need to be able to spot something going wrong in that small a tank which will be heavily pushing its stocking recommendations very very quickly. From your posts, I do not believe you are able to do that at the present time, and will unable to prevent disasters from happening.
You are going to have to watch water chemistry like a hawk, you are going to be constantly checking the SG (even though in one post you called this salinity, it is not), you are constantly going to be topping off and with heavy stocking you are going to be doing a hell of a lot of water changes, are you really ready for this commitment??
I am sorry if I appear brusque, I cannot stand to see someone ignore advice and steam ahead with what they believe is right. Please start to listen, and go and read all you can. I read for 2 years before this project and I believe this preparation time has given me a damn good start.
Thank you!
black molly3
Fish Herder
i asked about xenia on here first. then done some reading on it whilst at the sametime reading comments from this. yes i am ready for this commitment i have read up alot maybee not two years like you but i have still read up. i just wondered if you could do things differently. i cant do nothing about that xenia coral now that will arrive on wednesday morning but people put corals in first to avoid disturbing the fish. i do watch the water chemistry alot. i will get a nitrate test tommorow i do admit i cut a corner there. i will check all the parameteres tommorrow as usual but including nitrate and then i will do a water change. i have read up that it should be arouund 25% for the first time but been told on here it should be 50% so a little confused. my aim is to achieve a nano reef and i admit i probably was rushing abit there. i couldnt help it. seeing nano reefs on youtube just tempts me. what i will do is i will wait until wednesday when i get that xenia. he should be ok right. then i will wait a week do a water change and get the CUC. wait another week then get the goby and then the weekends after i get my goby i will maybee get another hardy coral. i quite like the idea of a hammer but my tank is not mature enough yet so i was thinking maybee a small leather if that will be ok under my two 18 watt t5's.
thanks for the advice and stopping me rushing into it but i just cant help it
Truck
UKAPS
adding corals does not really disturb fish, once youve got your fish, your not going to stop buying corals are you
you will need the nitrate test kit, a phosphate test kit. your tank can support 1 fish!!! but you seem adamant on having two so who am i kidding?
If i were you i would buy CUC first, you dont have to have fish first its better to introduce them second anyway!
step 1: buy CUC
step 2: a week later buy your first and only fish (please do not get a clown, or you will subject it to a very un happy life, it isnt very fair, they are active fish and are suited to a tank of 20 gallons + and not 13 )
step 3 slowly stock with soft corals (hardy ones) but first buy a book on corals, and do some serious research before buying!!! do not impulse buy.
if you like the look of a coral your LFS can hold it for you whilst you do the research and check its compatible with other species.
you said you wanted a euphyllia sp (hammer) do you know what fragging is? you should know all the basic before attempting this species, as it will soon get too big for your tank and it will kill anything that goes near it (coral wise)
if i were you, i would sell the xenia to someone that can accommodate it and start of with some mushrooms, then read up on fragging and frag a mushroom, so you know the basic steps for fragging a coral, look on youtube at how to frag corals etc. or you will find yourself with giant hammer coral taking up your hole tank, and a load of dead and decaying others causing a spike and leading to a system crash.
what tiger issey said was very good, you dont get anywhere in this hobby by rushing things!
xenia grows like a weed too, s earning how to frag that will be beneficial
black molly3
Fish Herder
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adding corals does not really disturb fish, once youve got your fish, your not going to stop buying corals are you
you will need the nitrate test kit, a phosphate test kit. your tank can support 1 fish!!! but you seem adamant on having two so who am i kidding?
If i were you i would buy CUC first, you dont have to have fish first its better to introduce them second anyway!
step 1: buy CUC
step 2: a week later buy your first and only fish (please do not get a clown, or you will subject it to a very un happy life, it isnt very fair, they are active fish and are suited to a tank of 20 gallons + and not 13 )
step 3 slowly stock with soft corals (hardy ones) but first buy a book on corals, and do some serious research before buying!!! do not impulse buy.
if you like the look of a coral your LFS can hold it for you whilst you do the research and check its compatible with other species.
you said you wanted a euphyllia sp (hammer) do you know what fragging is? you should know all the basic before attempting this species, as it will soon get too big for your tank and it will kill anything that goes near it (coral wise)
if i were you, i would sell the xenia to someone that can accommodate it and start of with some mushrooms, then read up on fragging and frag a mushroom, so you know the basic steps for fragging a coral, look on youtube at how to frag corals etc. or you will find yourself with giant hammer coral taking up your hole tank, and a load of dead and decaying others causing a spike and leading to a system crash.
what tiger issey said was very good, you dont get anywhere in this hobby by rushing things!
xenia grows like a weed too, s earning how to frag that will be beneficial
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ok thanks. i wanted to try to covince the xenia to grow up the back of my tank as a display. i dont know how to frag i will read up on that. what would be better to put in my nano a hammer or a frogspawn.
thanks
adding corals does not really disturb fish, once youve got your fish, your not going to stop buying corals are you
you will need the nitrate test kit, a phosphate test kit. your tank can support 1 fish!!! but you seem adamant on having two so who am i kidding?
If i were you i would buy CUC first, you dont have to have fish first its better to introduce them second anyway!
step 1: buy CUC
step 2: a week later buy your first and only fish (please do not get a clown, or you will subject it to a very un happy life, it isnt very fair, they are active fish and are suited to a tank of 20 gallons + and not 13 )
step 3 slowly stock with soft corals (hardy ones) but first buy a book on corals, and do some serious research before buying!!! do not impulse buy.
if you like the look of a coral your LFS can hold it for you whilst you do the research and check its compatible with other species.
you said you wanted a euphyllia sp (hammer) do you know what fragging is? you should know all the basic before attempting this species, as it will soon get too big for your tank and it will kill anything that goes near it (coral wise)
if i were you, i would sell the xenia to someone that can accommodate it and start of with some mushrooms, then read up on fragging and frag a mushroom, so you know the basic steps for fragging a coral, look on youtube at how to frag corals etc. or you will find yourself with giant hammer coral taking up your hole tank, and a load of dead and decaying others causing a spike and leading to a system crash.
what tiger issey said was very good, you dont get anywhere in this hobby by rushing things!
xenia grows like a weed too, s earning how to frag that will be beneficial
[/quote]
ok thanks. i wanted to try to covince the xenia to grow up the back of my tank as a display. i dont know how to frag i will read up on that. what would be better to put in my nano a hammer or a frogspawn.
thanks
Truck
UKAPS
theyre both the same i believe, both have VERY nasty stings so will kill any neighbouring coral. i wouldnt because it will get big, but you will be fragging constantly
black molly3
Fish Herder
this will be the same with a tourch coral aswel i presume?
Truck
UKAPS
yes all euphyillia
black molly3
Fish Herder
ok then i will probably just stick with the less aggressive ones like mushrooms zoas xenia and leathers. thanks
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