Mods And Admin?

[Livewire88]

I dont really get it either - why cant the site run its self? I mean surely it cant take that much time or effort to protect the site from spam, malware, trolls etc and I mean it must fund its self so I recon the ads just appear like magic not to mention how easy it is to get to the top of google so people can find it? (sarcasm btw)
 
A forum or site without mods or admin is like a bus without a driver....
 
I think the new mods do a great job! We still have a hand full of regular knowledgeable members  -  if your looking for a reason why there are less highly experienced members lets be honest its the old owner William that created the exodus - not even the new owner/buyer they never expected it.
 
Also lets not forget why the current mods are mods - sore subject I know but all the mods deserve massive respect for stepping up to it I for one think its a big ask to do it for nothing and picking it up from pretty much no hand over or pass on of knowledge.
 
 
Livewire - I think that is totally out of order - no offense meant, just my honest opinion
 
 
Wills

 
 
Whats out of order, voicing my opinion?

 
I think it was more you suggesting there's one or two people in here you don't like
Lol how do u work that one out? In a nutshell I have just noticed that some members became less active once they were made mods.

And there is always going to be people you dont like where ever you go, be it on an internet forum or out in the real world.

 

[TallTree01]

This had turned out really well. I never knew you guys did so much. Just to clear it up,
Mods are in charge of posts
Admin are in charge of the forum itself.
Right?

I don't reckon livewire meant to be offensive But I don't think he knew the importance of mods and to quote someone:
'A forum without mods and admij is like a bus without a driver.'

I reckon the report button is making more work for our mods as im guessing so many people us it irresponsibly.

 

[DrRob]

I reckon the report button is making more work for our mods as im guessing so many people us it irresponsibly.

 
I can see why you'd think that, but it's amazing what people don't press the report button about. Personally I'd rather it was pressed far more.

 

[TallTree01]

I know I've reported several bots and trolls in my time and the swiftness of the thread in question's removal was amazing. I highly reccomend reporting any suspicious behavior.

 

[frapadoodle]

MBOU,
Just say it. Possible rule breaking, arguments between members, kinda sounds like y'all have your hands full with me.

 

[eaglesaquarium]

The thing that confuses me the most is that before members become Mods they post on the site all the time giving help/advice ect, but once they become a Mod they all of a sudden stop posting as much as they did before 

 
I think it is because some Mods did all they could to become a Mod then once they achieved their goal they lost interest. 

 
As a newly named mod, I can honestly tell you that I had no intention when I signed up here years ago to become a mod.  Over the time I've been a member, I've come and gone as necessary due to life's foibles.  I will actually be logging on more now that I am a mod than I did previously.  Will I be as actively involved in helping folks?  I don't know.  I guess I'll step up if others don't, but there's not a need to say the same thing as someone else has already said.  And there are certain folks in the forums that I trust can deal with the concerns of newbies without any interference from me.  But, if I notice that someone hasn't gotten an answer to a question, I will probably be more inclined to address it in some way, more than I did previously.
 
 
I was honored when the PM came asking me to join the "Mod" team.  It was never a goal of mine to be "elevated" to mod, and having just volunteered to take up the slack in the Competitions Section while Steve is away, I can tell you that I was surprised at exactly how much goes into just that.
 
 
For me, at least, being a mod is an honor, but not a goal.

 

[snazy]

I find the mods most helpful

I can always see Steve trying to sort Algae and Plant issues for folks(by the way I couldn't find the Algae forum the other day, very awkward new place)
And Baccus has always been very helpful in the shrimp section(especially my long useless thread ) I guess if it wasn't for her, I'd be talking to myself there

I remember Tcamos answering my betta question after no one else dared too...
I am not mentioning everyone because it will be a long list, but I am sure each one contributes in a certain way, wether visible to us or not.
I think it feels a bit strange for some of us, a bit older members because many previously regular members are not around and it's sometimes tiring typing all the same stuff on the new members section but lacking at the same time activity in your own posts when asking a not so usual question. When all the changes happened, I wasn't even around and I had no idea. The only thing I noticed when I came back was that I barely got answers to my own questions at some stage, that's how I gathered something is wrong.
I am sure it's getting better and new members will gain experience or realize that it's nice to contribute too, not only take the activity from us addicted ones for granted

, whether helpful or not, we are trying...

 

[Lunar Jetman]

it's sometimes tiring typing all the same stuff on the new members section

 
I have to agree with this. I'm starting to lose some enthusiasm I had because I'm seeing the same questions being asked day in day out by new members. I think there needs to be a review of the way new members are initiated into the forum as, perhaps if the data they needed was more easily available, they wouldn't be posting the same questions all the time.

Maybe we should be making more of the beginners section although it is in the beginners/new to the hobby area so short of sitting with every new member personally at their house and pointing them to it I'm not sure what more can be done...
 

The only thing I noticed when I came back was that I barely got answers to my own questions at some stage, that's how I gathered something is wrong.

 
My worry is this will not improve as we have lost a lot of experienced posters and are only gaining new inexperienced ones.
 

I am sure it's getting better and new members will gain experience or realize that it's nice to contribute too, not only take the activity from us addicted ones for granted

, whether helpful or not, we are trying...

 
I hope this happens. I used to feel like I knew very little when compared to the rest of the board, now I feel like I'm one of the more experienced posters.. This isn't anything to do with my knowledge improving, just the decrease in experienced posters.

I hope things do get better but this is only going to happen over time. I just hope it happens before the number of newbies overwhelms all the older, more experienced posters and posts..

 

[TallTree01]

Jetman:

My worry is this will not improve as we have lost a lot of experienced posters and are only gaining new inexperienced ones except for talltree who has got to be one of the smartest people I know.
 ..

I decided to edit your post for you.lol.
I gotta agree we're seeing a bunch of the same questions over and over again. People need to use the search bar in th top right hand corner more I think.

 

[Lunar Jetman]

Jetman:

My worry is this will not improve as we have lost a lot of experienced posters and are only gaining new inexperienced ones except for talltree who has got to be one of the smartest people I know.
 ..

I decided to edit your post for you.lol.
I gotta agree we're seeing a bunch of the same questions over and over again. People need to use the search bar in th top right hand corner more I think.

Don't you ever sleep? You're always on here! I'm prepared to admit you're one of the smartest Australians I've ever met....

Maybe users with under 20 posts should be automatically directed to the search bar and not allowed to post until they've checked! (think that would be too difficult to introduce though..)

 

[eaglesaquarium]

Jetman:

My worry is this will not improve as we have lost a lot of experienced posters and are only gaining new inexperienced ones except for talltree who has got to be one of the smartest people I know.
 ..

I decided to edit your post for you.lol.
I gotta agree we're seeing a bunch of the same questions over and over again. People need to use the search bar in th top right hand corner more I think.

 

Don't you ever sleep? You're always on here! I'm prepared to admit you're one of the smartest Australians I've ever met....

Maybe users with under 20 posts should be automatically directed to the search bar and not allowed to post until they've checked! (think that would be too difficult to introduce though..)
 
If the newbies are never allowed to post, then how do they reach the 20 post threshold? lol
 
 
I understand what you guys are saying, but honestly, I think that this forum serves a very important service to the fishkeeping community.  Yes, there are lots of new fishkeepers who are all asking the same questions, but these are also the same questions that many of us had when we first started keeping fish ourselves.  So, we need to remain patient and answer each question like its the first time we've heard it, because the answer we give will be the first time that the newbie will have heard the answer.  It is taxing on the nerves at times, but try to remember that these folks are asking because they care (nearly all of the time) and really are trying to do what's best for their fish.
 
As for where the more experienced fishkeepers will come from and how to encourage more discussion of that type?  I'm not sure.

 

[Lunar Jetman]

Maybe users with under 20 posts should be automatically directed to the search bar and not allowed to post until they've checked! (think that would be too difficult to introduce though..)

 
If the newbies are never allowed to post, then how do they reach the 20 post threshold? lol

 
You put the bold on the wrong bit of my sentence missing the "until they've checked" which changes the emphasis and therefore my point. I meant newbies have to search first before being allowed to post.

I do accept this is probably impractical for a standard forum anyway...

 

[TallTree01]

Jetman:
My worry is this will not improve as we have lost a lot of experienced posters and are only gaining new inexperienced ones except for talltree who has got to be one of the smartest people I know. ..

I decided to edit your post for you.lol.I gotta agree we're seeing a bunch of the same questions over and over again. People need to use the search bar in th top right hand corner more I think.

Don't you ever sleep? You're always on here! I'm prepared to admit you're one of the smartest Australians I've ever met....
)

I dunno whether to be offended or complimented lol.

P.S- trees don't sleep.

Your idea is a good one but would be difficult to bring into reality.

 

[eaglesaquarium]

You are correct.  My mistake, honestly, I don't think that function exists.
 
 
I believe, the boards can limit the newbies ability to start a new thread (until a certain post count), but as frustrating as this may be at times, that's ultimately what they come here to do - get an answer to their particular situation.  And as similar as we may believe that it is to so many other threads, sometimes folks have the sense that their situation is unique.   There are the occasional situations which are outside the bounds of what's "normal", but the newbie doesn't have the experience to know what "normal" looks like.

 

[MBOU]

I have to agree with what Rob said earlier, i people spot something that breaks one of the Genral Rules or something they werent happy with, please do report it! Thats what the function is there for if its nothing serious, there is no harm done...
 
Unfortunately we cant rely on members to do all the reporting, what if they miss something? Will come down on us