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[cutecotton]

hmmm that sounds good, would it work with the whole dad with fry thing? i want to give it a try becuase i think it's easier than taking dad out and tending to teh fry myself...

 

[wuvmybetta]

i want to give it a try becuase i think it's easier than taking dad out and tending to teh fry myself...

You'll most certainly be tending to the fry still...
water changes and daily feedings are still your responsibility. Just because the father is in the tank it doesn't mean there's not a lot of work to do.


bkk~ I think he mentioned leaving females in there on rare occasions, I personally wouldn't.

 

[Ben]

wiked?

when i change the water, i carefully scoop it out with a gallon water jug and then put the new water in a bucket and balance it on top of the tank (on the corner) and siphon it in with airline tubing. it does it gently and slowly.

soz i was talking bout the article

 

[cutecotton]

i want to give it a try becuase i think it's easier than taking dad out and tending to teh fry myself...

You'll most certainly be tending to the fry still...
water changes and daily feedings are still your responsibility. Just because the father is in the tank it doesn't mean there's not a lot of work to do.


bkk~ I think he mentioned leaving females in there on rare occasions, I personally wouldn't.

yeah for sure i'm guessin gyou have to feed dad extra more so he deosnt' get hungray and snack the fry right? can you feed him regular betta pellets or do you have to feed him bloodworms and "conditioning food"?

 

[wuvmybetta]

Hey don't ask us This is all new to everybody here

After thinking about it, I would not recommend such an attempt on your first spawn. Cleaning the fry tank is a mind numbing,tedious job, not to mention nerve wracking. On top of numerous daily feeding for the fry, you'd have to feed the father just as much. Then on top of that...he makes excess waste which means unstable water etc etc..
I think it would be best to try it the 'traditional' way the first time (although it seems this would be the actual traditional way) just to get the feel of it and so you can watch the fry as closely as you'd like to.

 

[shrks1fan]

i want to give it a try becuase i think it's easier than taking dad out and tending to teh fry myself...

You'll most certainly be tending to the fry still...
water changes and daily feedings are still your responsibility. Just because the father is in the tank it doesn't mean there's not a lot of work to do.


bkk~ I think he mentioned leaving females in there on rare occasions, I personally wouldn't.

yeah for sure i'm guessin gyou have to feed dad extra more so he deosnt' get hungray and snack the fry right? can you feed him regular betta pellets or do you have to feed him bloodworms and "conditioning food"?

As Wuv said, this is all new to us, Lol. But I personally would feed him "yummy" stuff like frozen worms, BS and live worms because it seems more natural to me (and this is suppose to be the "natural" way of spawning, right? hehe). But I would definetly feed him stuff he eats with gusto, not something he eats JUST because he's hungry (as is the case with my Bettas and pellets).

Something I've considered doing after talking to someone in another forum is doing an outside spawn (which would be the truley natural way). He said a kids plastic pool or a big rubbermaid container or a hugh clay pot (what he uses) works well. Lots of floating plants. Basically all he does is, throw the male and female in, take the female out after 3 days, take the male out after 3 more days and once a week go out and look at the fry, Lol. He doesn't usually feed them, he lets nature do that (usually, he said there are times he adds daphnia to the water or BBS when they are very young). He said these are his no care spawns and he usually ends up with hundreds of juveniles ready for jarring a couple of months later if not sooner. He said the size of the spawn is incredible and the growthrate is awesome! He has no problem with temperatures, he even had one freeze over once, and after it thawed he went out to scoop out the expected dead fish....AND THERE WEREN'T ANY! They had survived just fine underneath the ice, Lol.

Now combining these two ideas, outside spawn and leave the father in (which he doesn't do) would be very interesting. I just haven't done the outside spawn yet because I'm afraid I'll end up with a 500 spawn which I'm not able to handle at the moment, Lol.

Linda
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[jacblades]

wiked?

when i change the water, i carefully scoop it out with a gallon water jug and then put the new water in a bucket and balance it on top of the tank (on the corner) and siphon it in with airline tubing. it does it gently and slowly.

soz i was talking bout the article

? i am still confused. did you mean wicked or something?

 

[coconutman39]

outside spawn sounds cool, not gonna try it though. im just curious about what the juvis eat after the first few days/weeks.

 

[shrks1fan]

Well going with the person who does this all year round, they eat the bugs that naturally fall into the water, just like in the wild...so mosquito larvae etc. He was saying today though that the health department might be getting on his case about it because of the mosquitos and West Nile Virus scare, so he may have to pull them inside (or at least some of them, he has multiple outside spawns, Lol). He said if he feels there isn't a high bug population at the time he'll add live daphnia a couple times a week, but that's it.

Linda
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