How do I really add this?

[mlee0332]

The box says 1/8 teaspoon/ 25g...

Well I need it for a 10 g and a 29 g How should I add biozyme to these 2 tanks?

Also, how much will it speed the bio filtration maturation?

It says for new tanks use for 7 days, but does that mean it will be finished then or it will be well on its way to being finished?

And lastly, can I rub it on the aerobic sponge to give the bacteria something to grab a hold to?

 

[rdd1952]

I've never heard of that particular product but I would be very skeptical of it since it says it has an unlimited shelf life. Bacteria can't live infinitely in an environment without food. It also says that it reduces nitrate by converting it into nitrogen. I have never heard of anything that could reduce nitrate except water chagnes. The only product I have heard of that defnitely works in cycling is Bio Spira and it has to be refrigerated until used and also is quite a bit more expensive. Be very careful with what you have.

 

[mlee0332]

How much does bio spira cost? (for like a 8 or 16 fl oz). How does it keep its bacteria alive. It don't get any food either. (Just wondering)

And bio zyme is dried out (if that makes a diff) maybe its just a seed not actual bacteria.

And if you've never heard of it, how do you know all of that stuff about it? (Just askin')

 

[Torrean]

there are other speed cyclers. Like stress zyme. They say they have live bacteria. He is just using his common sense. Bacteria have a finite lifespan, do you see an expiration date? If not then it's probably not worth using.

 

[skyharbor]

I paid 24.95 for 3 oz. of Bio-Spira....it works as described: overnight.


I was pleased!!

 

[mlee0332]

so it completely cycled it over night??? Wow! Where did you get it from?

 

[mlee0332]

there are other speed cyclers. Like stress zyme. They say they have live bacteria. He is just using his common sense. Bacteria have a finite lifespan, do you see an expiration date? If not then it's probably not worth using.

The same guy said that stress zyme wasn't bene bacteria, that is actually slowed the process, contrary to belief (or something like that). I bought that and asked about it and that's what I was told by him. So then I bought this and he says its no good either.

I was only a little flustered b/c I waited for nearly 3 hrs for someone to reply b/f I went and no one said anything and then after I get home I find that it's no good and the store won't take it back. The reason I went to buy this stuff is b/c I'm desparate. I added ammonia to my new tank 4 weeks ago (5.oppm) and I still regester 1.0ppm on the test kit, when it's supposed to be finished.

 

[Torrean]

I don't know about slowing the process. I think that it would at worst do nothing. it'll be ok I'm sorry you wasted your money. Do you have fish yet? If so then BIO Spira WILL NOT WORK OVERNIGHT. it'll take about a week to cycle your tank, rather than a day if it has JUST been stocked.

edit: Are your ten gallons established? Are you cycling the 29 or the ten?

 

[mlee0332]

Well I have the tank for a pregnant guppy (2 actually) and they have been preg for maybe 1-2 weeks and babies will be here in a nother 3-4 weeks and I'm getting a little worried the tank wont be ready in time!!! I feel a lot of pressure right now. I also purchased a 29g for the current fish I have (not really worried about it so it can take its time) and I have had it for 4 days maybe and I don't see any change in it either! But then again, I don't need it yet, but i want it...

The one i am so worried about is a ten and the 29 is cycling too. One 10 is all I have established...

 

[Torrean]

how are you cycling the 10 and 29? fishless cycling with ammonia? if the ten is cycled (meaning ammonia=0 nitrites=0 nitrates>1) then you alread have some bio spira sort of. Take some gravel from the ten and put it in a sock and hang it in the other ten and the 29. This is called cloning a tank. do a search in tff and you'll find more about it. You can also use the filter media if you are in a big rush but since you have some time I'd use the gravel. Make sure you are adding ammonia.

btw calm down it'll be ok. We'll work out your dilemma.

read the thread right below this one it's called cycling questions from 5 to 20 or something like that it should help you out. follow the link

here's a link
http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=91491

 

[mlee0332]

I have already done that... I added 5.0 ppm to both (doing fishless for both) That's why i am so worried. I have done EVERYTHING, taken gravel, decor, plants, and i am just getting pissed when I ask about something and that don't work and then i do this and that don't work. And another reason i am getting so mad is not a single store near me carries biospira, that's what I wanted to begin with, and I went looking for it and no one had it but they told me this stuff is the best they have. Sorry, I don't mean to seem like I'm jumping on anyone ) .

Well how 'bout if I do this... If I took nearly all of the water from the 29g (until no ammonia shows). Add new declorinated water and move all of the fish over to that (8 very small) with their old filter and the new filter. Added a little ammonia to the old tank to keep what's in there a live and when the babies are born, put them in that one. Would that work or would there be a danger in that?

EDIT: What does btw stand for? I use it to mean between, but that don't fit your sentence...

:stupid:

 

[Torrean]

ok. hmmm. that's a tricky question. I wouldn't do that. The ten you have established should be left alone. How long has the other ten gallon been cycling? what are your most recent readings on it? ok I have an idea. don't do this yet, it's just an alternative. option one( is the best one) take the filter from the new ten and let it run in the cycled tank with the old filter still running for about two days. then transfer it back to the new ten gallon. Or option two is to change water out of the 29 until it reads 0 ammo 0 NI then put both filters on it with the fish from the ten. I believe your cycle in your old ten will die but that's ok. so at this point you should have three filters running in your 29. the two from the tens and the one for the 29. You should also have all your fish in the 29. When the babies are born take them out of the 29 along with the filter for the ten and put them in the ten gallon. At this point the 29 and the ten should both be cycled. Then since you just removed 1/3 of your filtering capacity on the 29 monitor your stats closely. in a couple weeks remove the other ten filter back to the old tank, along with a new stock of fish to keep the ammonia up. then you should have 3 cycled tanks. Seriously don't do this yet ok. it's just a last ditch possibility and I am not even sure it would work. Wait for some more people to comment on it before you even think of trying it.

 

[mlee0332]

I dont know how this happened but here are the stats

Ammonia 1.0ppm
NitrItes 10.0ppm+ (is that possible?)
NitrAtes btw 10 and 20 ppm

Other:
water is soft
alkalinity is btw 40 and 80
Ph is btw 7.2-7.5 or 6

The ten has been cycling for 4 (not quite full) weeks.

 

[Torrean]

ok just re read an old post you made. you say the tank has 1 ppm of ammonia. WELL THAT"S GREAT. what is the nitrite. You said the cycle is supposed to be done. well cycles finish when they want to. Your cycle will be done when your test reads ammo=0 nI=o nA =1 or more. Be patient and don't fool with it. It should be cycled by the time your babies arrive.


EDIT sorry I posted ahead of you. Your tank is almost done cycling. wait for the nI to go down then you'll be finished. If your ammonia reaches 0 add a bit more. you don't want it to stay at 0 long because your bacteria will die.


btw you don't need bio spira or stress zyme or any of that crap at this point so don't stress out ok.


another edit: your tank probably will reach 0 ammo before it reaches 0 nI so make sure you keep up with it. It would suck for your cycle to crash at this point.

 

[mlee0332]

well i'd like for the 29 to get goin', even though I dont NEED it