Cory Spawning

Hi Siamese Fighter05 :)

Your fry are doing well indeed. :thumbs: All the water changes you have done have contributed a lot to your success. It's a lot of work, but it does pay off both in their survival rate and their growth rate.

They are 19 days old today so they are getting nearer to having a sponge filter in the tank. Just a few questions
1. When should i add the sponge filter? I don't mind the water changes at all so i'm in no rush.
2. When i do add the sponge filter how often should i do water changes?
3. Should i add sand when i add the filter to make the fry feel more at home
4. If so how would i get 65 fry from the tank without harming them?

I don't know of any site that has information that you can compare their growth rate with, but here is a picture I took for you yesterday of a small batch of blacks I am raising. The biggest ones are the black C. aeneus and they are 25 days old. (Yours will still be a little smaller.) The smaller ones are the gold shoulders I mentioned earlier in this thread. If you look closely you will also see a few gold shoulder fry that are just a few days old.

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I had to combine them because I was in great need of a 10 gallon tank. My C. axelrodi just spawned and if I planned to save the eggs, the parents need a place to be moved to. This is the first time they have spawned for me and I want them to be successful. :D

The picture was taken about 4 hours after I did their daily water change and I was getting a sponge filter ready to put in with them. It's in there now.

The reason you are putting in a sponge filter is to begin growing some beneficial bacteria. It won't do much to actually filter particles from the water, but is more in preparation for the time when you will be able to slow down on the water changes and have them in a cycled tank. Then, you can put a splitter on the airline and add a box filter to do that job. (Wait until they are big enough not to get sucked in the slots when they sit on top of it) It's just that if you wait to cultivate the bacteria, it will still take daily water changes while the tank is cycling. I find this is a more gentle way of doing it.

Sand can wait a while because it will make it harder to keep the tank clean. With the bare bottom you can see where the dirt is and get it out. I prefer to be on the safe side with this, especially since I have already started feeding them chopped live blackworms at least once a day. I don't want any dead meat rotting on the bottom. (Although, I must say, as long as they are chopped into very tiny bits, they seem to eat it all.) Your bbs are the same sort of thing.

I add sand at around 6 weeks to 2 months of age. By then the tank is cycled and the sand is another place for the beneficial bacteria to grow. I don't like to hurry this because I am afraid that tiny fry could get buried when I am cleaning. Once you decide to add it, it need not be all at once. You can scoot the fry out of the way and add a half cupful at a time until the bottom is covered. There is no need to have it very deep and you won't have to take the fry out to put it in.

When is it that you are most likely to lose fry? I was surfing the web last night and came across one or two sites that mentioned they lost more cory fry in the 5-6weeks of their lives? Do you have this experience also? I thought that the first week would be the high mortality rate...

I've read that too, but except for one time, I've never had that problem. In that case, I lost a whole batch of C. sterbai fry within a day of adding a sponge filter from another tank. This is why I like to grow the beneficial bacteria right in their tank and do the water changes for a longer time. At 5-6 weeks they are starting to get bigger and I think it's easier to forget that they are still delicate babies. That's too early to ease up on water changes and cleanliness, with filtration or not.

I can't wait to see pictures of you fry. Hope you get your computer going again soon. :D
 
Thank you very much inchworm for that picture! :D
That is great and i can tell now that they are doing okay. Your fry look great!
Thank you for answering my questions :)
I'm also glad you mentioned your sterbia disater (Although im sorry to hear it) because i am cycling the sponge to the filter in my 22g, its been in there about 2 weeks now so im glad you mentioned.
Do you think it's best if i take it out and let all the bacteria die off and build it up in the fry tank again because i don't want to risk losing any fry?
Thanks you very much for your help and thanks for your reply also jollysue im glad to hear rocky is doing well :)
 
I feel like I'm looking in on a conference and got caught. :lol:

All those wonderful babies! And axelrodi! Double WOW!! BTW, Inchworm, do you know what your Weitzmanni are? I'm sure I must have asked before. Some did make it, right?

Siamese Fighter, today when I came in Rocky was wagging his tail at the tank front, watching me, and waiting. I have suspended the salt baths a day or two to give him a rest. He had a hard time of it last round of salt baths. But he hung on for me, and I want to let him rest and get a little stronger before I treat him to another round of salt baths. There is still a small piece of the Q-Tip at the base of the fin. Just a bit.
 
Okay Hi again all :)

Today i added their sponge filter while doing a water change so hopefully things will become more stable from today. I was cycling the sponge in the 22g for 3weeks but i took it out last night and washed it in tap water to kill off anything and also left it out of the tank to dry just to make sure.

Just a question as usual -_-

How often should i do water change now the sponge is in there?

Thanks Dan :)
 
Hi Siamese Fighter05 :)

I suggest that you continue doing daily water changes for at least another month. During this time beneficial bacteria will slowly be forming a colony on the sponge and, since they are still tiny and producing little waste, it will take awhile. Doing the daily water changes will prevent them from having stress from ammonia and nitrites during this time.

Your fry should still have a fairly constant supply of food and this will have to be removed regularly too, to prevent harmful bacteria from growing on it.

By the time they are two months old, you can start getting them used to having regular meals at intervals, instead of the constant feeding, and the beneficial bacteria will have started. Then you can gradually ease up on the frequency of water changes. They will still need them more often than adult fish do, especially if the nitrates rise, but it will become easier for you. There seems to be a direct correlation between the number of water changes you do and the rate of growth, so it is worth the effort.

At between two and three months, a good part of their diet will consist of finely chopped frozen or live worms, and you should see faster growth. At that time you may want to add a box filter to grow more beneficial bacteria too.

Another thing to think about, depending on the number of fry you have, is whether or not you will be moving them up to a larger tank. The more room they have as they get bigger, the faster they will grow, and it will be easier for you to keep the water in good condition for them. :D
 
Thanks for your reply inchworm :)

I have carried on as you have mentioned and everything is looking good still, My computer came back today but now i cant find the CD to re-install the camera onto the PC :X I finish early wednesday so i can post the pics i took earlier if i can find the CD (Finally).

They are 33 day old today (I think) and at the end of the month i plan to re-arrange the tanks/take some of my current fish back. I plan to use the 15g as a nano-reef and i am currently saving money to put towards everything i will need for that. I will be keeping the skunk and the c aenus for now and put them into the 15g and then move the fry into the 22g which will help them grow. When the fry are old enough to go to the LFS i will take them down and get a credit note which i can put towards my savings for the nano. I will get another 15g to put the aenus and skunks in so that i can keep them :) . I don't want to take the fish back but i fancy a new challenge and even my family are interested in marines so that is the way to go. However my mum said i can't keep the 22g and a marine tank so i will have to compromise for a while until i prove to her that i can keep a marine tank.

I would probably add the substrate into the 22g (Bad Idea?) before they move in and then start feeding them a worm diet to help them grow better.

Thanks again Dan

PS: I will try my hardest to get some pics up for you by wednesday! :D
 
Hi Siamese Fighter05 :)

It's good to see you back online again! :thumbs:

You can start feeding your fry worms as soon as they are big enough to eat them. Yours are old enough right now. Since you will probably be using the frozen bloodworms, just shave thin slices from the block and add them to the water. If you do it shortly before a water change, any they don't eat can be easily removed. Of course, if you are still feeding them the bbs, they should be growing well even now.

It seems that once they get past that tiny fry stage their growth really increases. I think it's a matter that the bigger they are the more they can eat, therefore the more they grow.

I can understand your wanting a Nano tank. They are very popular these days and if I wasn't so involved with the corys, I'd probably be thinking about getting one too, just to see what it is all about.

I'll be looking forward to seeing pics of your fry. :D
 
Okay Finally!!!! Pictures at last!!! :D

These pictures were taken a couple of days ago, just before a water change and glass scrub so that why there is a bit of dirt in there and food i had just put in. The reason i didn't take the other half was because all the fry were eating and there was a bit more dirt over there and i would have looked bad :lol: :*)

Here:


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I will take some more up-to-date pictures tommorow after work :D
 
Finally we get to see the pictures, from what I can see they all look active! :)

:lol: Sorry about the long wait, my computer has been playing up badly for the past two months so it's been in and out of the repair shop :/

It's still not fully fixed now but at least i can post piccys!

Anyway, The fry are doing great and as you said fishkeeper they are very active. They are now eating flake food, BBS, Bloodworm, Glassworm and nutrafin sinking tablets (All of my cories go crazy for these!)
 
Hi Sf05 :)

Your fry are adorable! :wub:

You are doing an excellent job of raising them. Their tiny little barbels are so cute, and that's always a very good sign. :thumbs:
 
Wow! Great job! Beautiful babies.

My boys and girls were rather fasted for the move, plus there was an interruption in access. So the blackworm feedings were far apart and few. When the tanks got in and settled, they got a good feeding. The aeneus were so delighted that there was a spawning frenzy the next morning. A Coradoras virginae/Sangama even got in the mix. I tried to get some eggs but SBC had fouled up my service and my phone was down (took two days), so I was at a loss and made a mess of it.

So, good job! It takes focus and good care. :flowers: :book: :hooray:
 
wow they are so cute, can't wait till mine get a bit bigger now. well done with them :thumbs:
 
Hi jollysue :)

Good for your corys! As soon as you get settled it might be a good idea for you to move your C. aeneus into a 10 gallon tank of their own. That way it will save you having to move the eggs when they spawn next time. And I have no doubt at all that there will be a next time. :thumbs:
 
Hi everyone and thanks for your responses :)

Goodluck with your fry trace1 i've been following your thread.
Inchworm how are all your fry coming along?
Goodluck with your next batch Jollysue!

Anyway :( Today i found a dead fry in my tank :( I don't know what he died of but he was one of the bigger ones.
 

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