Best Fish To Start With?...

Did you add the ammonia yourself? im guessing you did to get 8ppm.

If you havent been adding the ammonia yourself... then that does sound bad....

If your adding the ammonia yourself to cycle without fish (which you SHOULD be doing) you shouldnt add more than about 5ppm, or it will take too long.
 
I started off with neon tetra's and a plec :D
most plecs would get too big for a 10gal, plus although neons are nice, colourful, small shoaling fish (yes, shoaling, so several of them) they are not very hardy at all, and it is not a good idea to put neons in an 'immature' tank, even if it has cycled. erm, i would look at the link in jonesyUK's signature (ideas for fish for 10gals or something like that)
Bare in mind that that link is not for good beginner fish. The hatchet fish and dwarf gourami are apparantly both a pain to keep alive, especially for newbies. Sorry to nag but how are you cycling your tank? You say it's been up and running for 3 weeks but what are you doing to get the bacteria to grow in your filter? Have you read this:

http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=10099

You also didn't say how much ammonia NH3 was in your tank when you published your stats.
I beg to differ. I have a 10 gallon with 1 dwarf gourami and other fish (see signature) and i havent had the Dwarf for very long, about a month but he is thriving in my tank but i would suggest getting some types of tetras and keeping them for a while and make sure the tank is suitable and disease free and then get 1 dwarf gourami.
 
I havent added any ammonia myself when i set the tank up the i got flora boost and a filter boost.. i treated all the water with tap safe...

just done another water test and it looks as if the test i did yesterday was contaminated in some way, its reading 2ppm now... FFS im usless..
 
Just found some snails in my tank... could this explan anything should i remove them? should i be worried about them?
 
What shape is the shell?

If it is not conical in shape, it'd be best you remove them before they breed and spread like the plague.

P.T.
 
What shape is the shell?

If it is not conical in shape, it'd be best you remove them before they breed and spread like the plague.

P.T.

they are very very small and just look like normal garden snails...... how do i kill them?
 
Newbie here...
I started my tank outa little over two years ago and my first fish were a pair of Lampeye or Redeye Tetras. The bigger of my two died 5 months ago, but my other one was doing pretty well up until two weeks ago. I found him to be the most hearty fish that I ever owned. He is still living, but has lost an eye to popeye. I have had a pair of neons, but they only lasted me around 8 - 9 months.

-Len
 
Hi Mike!

The first job is to make your tank fit for fish. You need to read the pinned topics about cycling your tank.

Basically, every tank needs a colony of bacteria big enough to process the ammonia excreted by the fish. Some of these bacteria are naturally present in the tap water, but not enough to deal with the concentrations of a fish tank. But they will multiply if they are fed.

There are two ways of achieving this:

you can either start with a very few hardy starter fish. This is the oldfashioned method. The disadvantage is, that however hardy, these fish are for the first month or so living in a bath of toxic chemicals. You can alleviate their situation by testing the water daily and doing a partial water change whenever the ammonia or nitrites rise. Then after all traces of these chemicals have finally disappeared, you can add a few more fish, and so on until your tank is fully stocked

or, you can do a so-called fishless cycle. In this you simulate the above situation by adding drops of ammonia (as described in pinned topic), and you don't put any fish in until this process is completed, that is until you have seen first the ammonia, then the nitrites spike and then go down, leaving a hefty legacy of nitrates in the tank. You then do a big water change to dilute the nitrates and then you're ready to add fish

Just letting the tank sit, or adding bacteria out of bottles (unless it is the product known as Biospira or Bactinett) is not going to get the bacteria growing; they need food.

But in your case, I agree with previous posters that you need to know why you have already got ammonia in your tank. Have you tested the tap water?


Then for hardy fish. By hardy fish, one usually means fish that can withstand ordinary water parameters (ie do not have very specific requirements as to ph and hardness) and that can even cope with small amounts of ammonia on a temporary basis. This is not to say that hardy fish have no specific requirements at all, or that you don't have to know anything about them. All fish have their own specific needs that must be taken into accounts. Some of them just happen to be easier to cater for in a home situation.

The fish usually mentioned as hardy beginners fish are danios, black widow tetras and platies. Of these, both danios and black widows are unsuitable for a 10 gallon tank: they are schooling fish (need to be in groups of at least 6-8) and very active, so need quite a lot of swimming space.

Platies can cope with a 10 gallon tank, as long as the water is not very soft and acid (if someone has problems keeping both mollies and platies alive, this might be the reason). So they should be fine. All you need to consider here is sex ratios. They can be kept in mixed gender groups- then you need to have at least 2-3 females per male (the males are sex machines and won't leave a single female alone). And you will get fry (though the parents may eat them). If you want to avoid fry, you can keep males only, but then you need a group of at least 5 to spread aggression- which will take up all the space in your tank. Almost the easiest option is to keep females on their own. You may still get fry, they are often pregnant from the shop, but eventually the supply will dry out.

Other options, if you have done a fishless cycle might include:

corydoras- scavenging bottom feeders, who need to be in groups of at least 3, great fun to watch, need sand or smooth pea-shaped gravel which has to be kept clean (gravel vac at least once a week)

White Cloud Mountain minnows- coldwater fish, so you need to keep temperatures down, but a school of these would look good

glowlight tetras

honey gouramis are sometimes hardier than dwarfs. I appreciate that there may be hardy individual dwarf gouramis out there, and somebody may well have struck lucky, but given the general look of the ones I have seen around the shops for the last year, I would say that statistically speaking you are likely to end up with a sickly individual. If you go for honeys, make sure you only get one male- gouramis are territorial

a Siamese fighter (betta) and then later on when the tank is mature you can add some tetras

I am sure there are other tetras that would suit but can't think of any just at the moment
 
I had dwarf gouramis in a 10gal as well but wouldn't have any more. i found them quite territorial towards their own kind (when moved to bigger tank) and also to other fish (took an eye out of a glowlight). I found glowlights, harlequins, zebra danios and white clouds the hardyest. Cories are excellent bottom feeders. I have some otos as well, they keep the tank clean from algae really well but they can be quite sensitive as well. Neons are another fish which can be quite senitive - i found they only do well when the tanks has been maturing for a while and the levels are right.
 

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