Sounds like a horrible set up. Seems like animal cruelty comes naturally to you.
Those fish would also all be juveniles, fresh from the breeders who had kept them in groups. Not adults who had established a territory that needed defending yet.
But you've changed the point. You came in here not to say that male bettas won't fight, as you're claiming now. Let me remind you of your original comments, because you're good at moving the goalposts when you're losing a debate. I've even bolded the relevant bits! Just trying to be helpful
I think you were trying to say "wired". "weird" has a different meaning.
So here's your claim. You say they are genetically weird (sic) to fight, that they enjoy it, and if they fight to the death, the winner will be happy. You standing by those claims?
Unless he dies from his wounds and secondary infections. Then you've killed two fish instead of one. Is this the kind of advice you gave to customers?
So we should put them together because they love to fight. The winner enjoys it and is happy, is your claim, remember. How do you know that he's happy and enjoyed fighting? It's cruel to keep them alone, but not cruel to the losing fish that is killed?
Got any science or research to back that up? While keeping them alone is cruel... a fish that lives alone in the wild... make it make sense.
Sneering at us, claiming we only know stuff from google - classy! All the while claiming to be expert who has all this experience with every fish species. So much so that you argue against the views of recognised experts in the field, claiming you know best. While I remember when you didn't understand how nitrifying bacteria work, and claimed our large water changes would make cycling a tank pointless. You thought we'd throw them away with the water, as if they live in the water column.
Kept fish for all these years, sold and bred them, and didn't know that? Google sure can be useful, so maybe don't talk down to us, hhmm?
Again, evidence? Explain what the fish are thinking please. Both the winner and the loser.
Would love to see a video of you calling PETA or the RSPCA and asking them if it's cruel to keep bettas alone, and that they love to fight, so isn't it cruel not to make them fight?
Oh yes, I am certainly opinionated! It's both my best and my worst quality
You either don't know, or forgot, but my parents owned an aviaries and aquatics business. Quite a successful one, for decades. We had a lot of animals as I grew up, and there was always a tank at home too. I was taught, as I hope you were, to always research the needs of a pet before even thinking of buying it. To weigh up whether you could provide for it's needs for the lifespan of the animal. Since we all also have parrots, that's very relevant, given their 60 odd year lifespan.
They also had books. Hundreds of reference books on fish and other animals, so I was raised to read as many books on the topic as possible. Talked to parents about fish keeping, learned from their experiences, talked to other hobbyists, people I met through my LFS etc. You know, the way we had to learn these things in the old days before the World Wide Web?
I also keep and am successfully breeding fish, just not bettas, since I'm not set up to look after a betta the way they need, with my hard water.
But times have moved on, and you're kicking and screaming that people don't do things your way or immediately agree with you, when you provide no evidence or sources. We've just gotta take your word for it, random man online? Okay... sure. I'm sure that's better than using a search engine to find real sources, like evidence of how betta live, establish territories, breed, and live a SOLITARY life in the wild.
