7 Foot, 1074 Litres, 284 Gallons.

[dave_oddballs]

well, just checked and its not the tiger fish! well the only fish in the tank that is fat is the new ray! didn't think it would fit a 5" red tailed shark in its mouth! im annoyed really, had that guy for ages! i knew i would have to re-home it at some point but i was hoping it would actually make it to a new home! never mind.

 

[bae1994]

ahh typical tho the one you wouldnt really expect did it least hes eating i guess

 

[T1KARMANN]

the rays had that shark don't under estimate the power of a hungry ray

the main problem with any ray tank is finding fish for the mid water

top level aros work well

bottom rays a large tigrinus a large pleco polys sometimes work but my rays have chewed many endy

things i have tried in mid water peacock bass flagtail fontosa silver $s
if any fish is smaller than the width of the rays disk it will get caught in the trap

dats/tigers of any size seam to be ok as the ray will jump on them feel the shape dorsal fin and let them go you just need to hope the ray doesnt suck the eyes out 1st

 

[dave_oddballs]

yeah but with the lack of available campbellis im going to have to take what i can get. I have 4 frontosas but i doubt they would do too well in my tank being ph 7.0 and soft. I still want a flagtail but cant find any nice ones with the red tails. I would love a peacock bas but i dont think any would be small enough to fit in my tank! The rays dont seem to bother the polys, got a few more big ones coming soom. Also want a group of red hook dollars. And was thinking a group of dennisoni barbs but dont know if the tigerfish would have then, and that would be an expensive meal! Someone offered me a big one of them lince cats today, for £395! Thought sod that, would get way too big for my tank anyway, definitely going to get a tigrinus and been looking at them sturio, sturgeon cats, they look nice. Any other ideas anyone?

 

[bae1994]

probably not your cup of tea but sun cats are cool and the one i had had a great personality and a huge smile theres some pics in my old thread of mine i think (not sure if there suitable with your stock tho)

 

[T1KARMANN]

anything below 6-8 inch apart from tigers/dats has a good chance of being ray food

ray food for me in the past for me

fontosa
poly weeksi
poly delhazi
black bar silver dollars
discus
uaru.a
silver aro
peacock bass
silver shark
flagtail
scarlet pleco
clown loach
fire eel

fish that have lost eyes
thin bar tiger
flagtail
even a male leopoldi ray to a male motoro

its a gamble with rays what you can keep with them

 

[always4lora]

anything below 6-8 inch apart from tigers/dats has a good chance of being ray food

ray food for me in the past for me

fontosa
poly weeksi
poly delhazi
black bar silver dollars
discus
uaru.a
silver aro
peacock bass
silver shark
flagtail
scarlet pleco
clown loach
fire eel

fish that have lost eyes
thin bar tiger
flagtail
even a male leopoldi ray to a male motoro

its a gamble with rays what you can keep with them

Wow ! thats a pretty crazy list, i'm suprised they managed some of them , were the rays much bigger? Can't imagine Silver dollars being too easy to catch and kill

 

[T1KARMANN]

what i find with shoaling fish like silver dollas is the rays will catch 1 and the rest will be safe after that

even my tinfoils get caught every now and then and loss bits of the tail

 

[dave_oddballs]

bloody heck, talk about trying to put me off! haha
i think things like dennisoni barbs would have some form of a chance as they do get to a decent size and are extremely fast swimmers and from what i know hardly ever go near the floor of the tank. my frontosas are only 4" at the moment but need the hard al;kaline water. the maidenhead aquatics near me have about 3 at about 10" for a reasonable price so i might try them.
i was going to ring a guy today about a group of them black bar dollars, the ad was on the calssifieds, 11 6-7" for £100 ono, they look nice and he has them in with a couple of leo's, dats and an arowana. think his leo's are only 6" though!

what about discus? whats the chance of them being food? if i got a load of them it would brighten up the tank wouldn't it!
also got to remember i have 9 rotkeil severums upstairs growing, waiting to go into the big tank, and 2 more pink tailed characins, and 3 more polypterus!
what are peoples thoughts on the Platystomatichthys sturio?

 

[T1KARMANN]

at night time all the fish are at risk when they are resting the rays are more active

if i feed my rays with the lights out they can eat more than double what they eat in the day

in my old tank when the lights went out all the fish including the tinfoils had a mad panic for the 1st few mins then cammed down

even my 18-20 inch tig would lose parts of his tail dorsal fin and tails streamer

 

[dave_oddballs]

yeah i see, any ideas where i can get a nice flagtail from? only want one if it has the red tail, seen a few with just the black and white/clear tails, but they aren't half as nice!

 

[T1KARMANN]

flagtails will at some point suck on the rays and can do real damage

my old one was massive 14inch easy and that would have moments of sucking on my rays it used to do it more to a preg female

this is the mother of my rays now look at the white patches on the back thats from a flagtail

 

[dave_oddballs]

what would you suggest then, as a sort od dither if you will, something colourful that will swim around constantly?

 

[T1KARMANN]

anything you dont mind losing is the only reply

like i said its the mid water thats the problem in a ray tank you can play around with lots of diffrent fish for mid water but dont get to upset if its gone in the morning

 

[dave_oddballs]

well.... will have some thinking to do then don't i!!!!