20 Gallon Salt Water Set-Up

[GAB99]

ok then ill take out the clown goby

how many cardianls? i was thinking the black and white striped ones um. bengaii i think they are called?

and would a regal tang work?

sorry i meant achilles tang

or if i can replace the tang with seahorses? (mom told me she wanted to as about one of those)

 

[-Nemo-]

ok then ill take out the clown goby

how many cardianls? i was thinking the black and white striped ones um. bengaii i think they are called?

and would a regal tang work?

sorry i meant achilles tang

or if i can replace the tang with seahorses? (mom told me she wanted to as about one of those)

If you want a tang, you will have to take out much more than just one little goby, tangs get huge. An achilles tang is very difficult to take care of and therefore I would not suggest it to you and they are quite pricey.

Bangaii Cardinals are gorgeous, make sure you get a tank raised one no wild caught please! They are endangered!

Seahorses should definitely not be in that tank. Seahorses should only be kept in tanks by themselves for the most part. In a tank like you're planning they would never be able to compete for food and would be picked on by others. Also, any stinging corals could harm them and the flow in the tank would be way too much for them.

 

[GAB99]

ok then ill take out the clown goby

how many cardianls? i was thinking the black and white striped ones um. bengaii i think they are called?

and would a regal tang work?

sorry i meant achilles tang

or if i can replace the tang with seahorses? (mom told me she wanted to as about one of those)

If you want a tang, you will have to take out much more than just one little goby, tangs get huge. An achilles tang is very difficult to take care of and therefore I would not suggest it to you and they are quite pricey.

aww.. well i was prefering activity and quantity more than just 1 big fish, like a salt water community.

Bangaii Cardinals are gorgeous, make sure you get a tank raised one no wild caught please! They are endangered!

are tank raised more common than wild caught? also heard wild caught dont last long too.
Seahorses should definitely not be in that tank. Seahorses should only be kept in tanks by themselves for the most part. In a tank like you're planning they would never be able to compete for food and would be picked on by others. Also, any stinging corals could harm them and the flow in the tank would be way too much for them.

yeah! now my mom owes me 10$! i bet we coudnt keep one and she disaggreed

 

[-Nemo-]

wild caught are probably more available... but again strongly urge to find some tank raised. I know my work waited a year to get some tanked raised bangaiis in... which is why i snagged some
As to how many, i didn't see that question before, I would only get one. If you get two and they are both males, they will fight until one dies. Bangaiis are hard enough to sex as it is, juveniles are near impossible.

 

[GAB99]

would they fight with other species of cardinal fish? lie pajamas or fire?

heres what we have so far

current pair of clown fish
flame angel
mandarin goby
cardianl fish
fire fish
clown goby
jester goby
chalk basslet
tail spot blenny
mystery wrasse (lfs has them for 50$ instead of 200$ on live aquaria lol) this is a replacement for the 6 line wrasse




heres what i want to add, of course just say yes or no and if you can try to make different combos

red stripe pacific hogfish
marine betta
blue gudgeon dart fish
black cap or yellow head jawfish
striated angler



also i dont kno if this will count or not, but it will also have the usual shrimps, snails and maybe a small crab or 2

 

[-Nemo-]

would they fight with other species of cardinal fish? lie pajamas or fire?

heres what we have so far

current pair of clown fish
flame angel
mandarin goby
cardianl fish
fire fish
clown goby
jester goby
chalk basslet
tail spot blenny
mystery wrasse (lfs has them for 50$ instead of 200$ on live aquaria lol) this is a replacement for the 6 line wrasse




heres what i want to add, of course just say yes or no and if you can try to make different combos

red stripe pacific hogfish
marine betta
blue gudgeon dart fish
black cap or yellow head jawfish
striated angler



also i dont kno if this will count or not, but it will also have the usual shrimps, snails and maybe a small crab or 2

Your fish list is getting quite long now... I'll make comments on the new ones you added but it doesn't mean they can all go together because of size limitation.

Hogfish - Don't know too much about this specific hogfish, but be aware that he may go after shrimp.
Marine betta - Very tough to find one eating frozen foods. Keep in mind that these fish are nocturnal and get very large (around 8") and may also have a liking for small fish.
Gudgeon Goby - Nice fish, I'd recommended getting more than one if you decide to go with them, they like to "hang" together. Keep in mind they are not small gobies though, each will get about 5"
Jawfish - Nice fish, good personalities.
Angler - Definitely a no no. Should only really be in tanks by themselves. He will eat all the other fish in your tank.


As for putting different cardinals together, good question, I do not know the answer to that one.

 

[GAB99]

ok then, heres what is available for adding to the tank as of now = 12 possible species

current pair of clown fish
flame angel
mandarin goby
cardianl fish
fire fish
clown goby
jester goby
chalk basslet
tail spot blenny
mystery wrasse
blue gudgeon dart fish
black cap or yellow head jawfish


if this is top stocking already then just let me know, if not just put this into whatever list you want in any quantity as long as its stocked so the only ill be able to add is a CUC and corals.

 

[GAB99]

blump



and im getting hermits and coral tomorow, got 2 questions

1. since corals cant come into contact with air, how do you get t into the tank without putting in bag water?

2. would a mushroom or polyp on a 1.99$ frag, if taken care of, eventually spread? and how long does it take for coral to multiply and how do you trim corals?

 

[seffieuk]

blump



and im getting hermits and coral tomorow, got 2 questions

1. since corals cant come into contact with air, how do you get t into the tank without putting in bag water?

Who said they can't come in contact with air?

2. would a mushroom or polyp on a 1.99$ frag, if taken care of, eventually spread?

yes, if they have the right conditions

and how long does it take for coral to multiply

depends on the coral and the conditions

and how do you trim corals?

Again, all according what coral?

Seffie x

 

[GAB99]

blump



and im getting hermits and coral tomorow, got 2 questions

1. since corals cant come into contact with air, how do you get t into the tank without putting in bag water?

Who said they can't come in contact with air?

2. would a mushroom or polyp on a 1.99$ frag, if taken care of, eventually spread?

yes, if they have the right conditions

and how long does it take for coral to multiply

depends on the coral and the conditions

and how do you trim corals?

Again, all according what coral?

Seffie x

1. ok i guess they will survive a 30 sec. transfer then?

2. never mind, they are 10$ and have a good few ployps and mushrooms on them, and they are in the bottom of a deep tank so it will be better conditions since theyll be closer to light and current and water stats for some reason stays at triple 0's.

easy groing corals like polyps, shrooms, and any of the corals discussed eralier that well be keeping like leathers,candycane,bubbles,shrooms,zoas,and polyps and maybe a kenya tree

same as above

 

[seffieuk]

1. ok i guess they will survive a 30 sec. transfer then?

Yes indeed they will

Dont forget they will more than likely need acclimatising as well - test the water they come in

Seffie x

 

[GAB99]

thanks alot guys, i cant wait to get the last half of the cuc and a mushroom or 2! ill post pics hopefully on wednesday so you can see what youve helped me create.

 

[steelhealr]

So...is your tank 20 gallons? SH

 

[GAB99]

yes

and the thing with the cardinals,angels etc is for a already future planned 55 gallon reef tank which will be happening in a few months or so.

only thing in 20 gal. right now is:


20lbs of live rock and sand
koralia 1 power head
5 hermit crabs
5 nerite snails
2 ocilleris clown fish
top fin 20 power filter
50/50 actinic blue light


here what eill eventually be added in this order:

5 hermit crabs
5 nerite snails
mushrooms
koralia 1 power head
polyps
cand cane coral
zoas
kenya tree
bubble coral

 

[GAB99]

hello, well they didnt have any mushrooms, just a frag of some zoas, which we got, they actually have opende in about 30 after putting them in the tank.

can you guys give me info on these corals? like...

how fast do they grow?

how do they grow?

any supplements?

temperment?

how do you estimate and categorize flow? wer it is the filter pushes out water which then gets drawed to the power head and the wate is then expelled behind it. it is right in between the filter and powerhead and it doesnt move/sway.

right now they are high up on the tank with decent flow i think.