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It seems the inverse of the abbreviation For The Win (FTW) has now been banned (as can be seen here ####), yet LMFAO hasn't been added to the swear filter.

Is it not time that a proper assessment of what is and is not going to be allowed in the forum took place? This piecemeal approach seems somewhat random and more down to the individual tastes of one or two mods than anything else.
 
I asked the same thing about what it going to be allowed and not allowed in the previous thread then and received no reply from any mods, although I see SH somehow found the time to reply to your post in that section before it was closed.

I would like to know how more than just one mod feels about this also and what is going to be allowed and not allowed.

Since we are banning abbreviations I would like a complete list of what isnt allowed so I dont offend anyone :rolleyes:

Drew
 
I asked the same thing about what it going to be allowed and not allowed in the previous thread then and received no reply from any mods, although I see SH somehow found the time to reply to your post in that section before it was closed.

The post was after closing.

I would like to know how more than just one mod feels about this also and what is going to be allowed and not allowed.

Essentially it is all down to one person; William.

Since we are banning abbreviations I would like a complete list of what isnt allowed so I dont offend anyone :rolleyes:

No need, they go in the swear filter and that is it. It does seem strange that some abbreviations are in in, and some aren't. :/
 
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Before making a ruling...

this court has consulted
the highest authority available.

The question of Santa Claus...

seems to be largely
a matter of opinion.

Many people
firmly believe in him.

Others do not.

The tradition
of American justice demands...

a broad, unprejudiced view
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intends to keep an open mind.

I'll hear all the evidence.

Andywg....what do you propose?

SH
 
Andywg....what do you propose?

SH
Well, always responding to individual complaints from a minority and then banning what they don't like is not the best way to go. There are people who are offended by everything from black people to swear words to the acceptance of dictators into the UN. One cannot please everyone, and must draw the line somewhere, or else we will have a swear list so large it is visible from space.

1) Let everyone put what they want. The only people to get really upset by swear words are those that are not desensitised to them as youngsters. Indeed, many words would lose their shock value if they were used frequently. What is speech if not the vibrations of thoughts now passed? Has anyone ever stopped to think why word x or y is so rude, other than them describing actions that society has usually demanded be kept to the bedroom (though the scientific equivalent is fine). Both the F bomb and sexual intercourse describe the same act, why then should one word be so bad other than we are told it is bad?

2) However, many people have problems with the above, so instead of this piecemeal approach currently going on, the mods/admin should have just added words which are now a problem to the swear filter and be done, bringing everyone's attention to it makes people become aware and opinionated.

I would add though, that this board could also do with a bit more understanding about what the members can expect from the moderators when they step out of line. First and foremost must be the mod in question actually linking to the post and informing the member exactly why there is a warning. Threatening posts of bannage are no good. I am sure we all agree that the message below is no good:

A mod who shall remain nameless said:
Hi andywg,

I am giving you an official warning about by-passing the swear filter on the forum. If you value your membership, you will not continue to break our rules.

As many would do, I responded by asking exactly what I had done wrong, and received this:

A mod who shall remain nameless said:
Hi andywg,

If you follow the General Rules, all will be well.

Below the above text I was sent a copy of the general rules (available from under the forum title banner). Still no actual explanation of what I have done wrong. I asked for a response, but none has come after nigh on a week now.


We need clear leadership from the mods on things like swearing, don't open it up to debate, just do it and be clear about it - OR - make it more democratic and find out what the majority of the more active members want from the board and go from there. One cannot plough an easy path in the middle as seems to have been tried here.

Also, we need explanations from mods, or at least clarity in actions. If someone does something wrong, tell them what it is, don't give cryptic clues or general "obey the rules" posts. Too often people unfairly accuse the mods of shortcomings, but I do not feel I am anywhere near out of line asking for an explanation of what I did that was wrong.
 
I was surprised to see the English A word for "bottom" allowed still when I read it a few days ago, but later found it was added to the filter. That's a good thing. And there is a certain town in England that is banned because of it's make-up: S####horpe
Bad North Lincolnshire and your dirty towns :lol: Poor old S c u n t h o r p e . Banned from the board

However, I don't think anyone can argue that we should not be swearing on a family board. Lots of kids come here and lots of our kids read the posts with us or are in the room while we are reading. It's not so hard to say "What the heck?" is it? and even if you do commit a word crime, the filter will assist you in remaining non offensive.

And I am happy to be careful at home, because there's nothing in the world with a memory like a five year old who overheard someone say a rude word. I am not disputing that children know rude words, I'm sure even my five year old could say a few (especially after he sat on the stairs and watched the whole of Beavis & Butthead Do America with us one night, only giving himself away when he laughed at the Cornholio scene) - but I don't want them becoming common place and included in his vocabulary as an every day word. They should still remain taboo, and the divide between adults and kids should remain. They will swear when we are not around, and we will swear when we *think* they are not around.

I don't feel this is particularly 1984, I work in local government and while we might have a laugh sometimes, we also deal with the public on the phone so we have to mind our language in the office cos no one wants to hear the government saying a bunch of rude words when they call up! it's just part of being a grown up that we moderate ourselves in public. Maybe if we find a word that shouldn't be here, we should just send a quick message to a mod saying "please put a filter on *****" and that will be the end of it, and as adults we should already know what are classed as swear words and what are not.
 
^LOL - did you know said bourough council installed a filter on their emial system & then wondered why they stopped getting *ANY* emails!

BTW, I know a guy I work with who lives in a town called....

S H I T T E R T O N (a little village in Dorset near Lyme Regis).

I kid you not!

Andy
 
^LOL - did you know said borough council installed a filter on their email system & then wondered why they stopped getting *ANY* emails!

lol I don't find that hard to believe at all. I am not someone that is offended by language in an "adult" setting, in fact I hate it when they moderate films and show them at 10pm - what the heck for?? (see how easy that was? lol) - but I do object when I hear people shouting rude words in the street, especially when Dylan is with me and says "Mommy, why did that man just say____?, that's a rude word" Yes, and one I didn't want you to repeat. Grr.
 
Words may be added to (or removed) from the filter as and when we see necessary. There is no need or place for swearing even through abbreviations on this forum.
 
in light of Williams above post
is NAFF going to be added, given the last F's meaning?
is OMG going to be added, given it blasphemous overtones (using the Lords name in vain)
what about hell or its often substituted cousin heck.
I also see spastick is still allowed, even though that is very offensive to the less able bodied.

I'm with andy on this
we need clear guidance from the powers that be
 
I personally think the mods do a good job.

Obviously not all words and abbreviations can be added to the filter because there will always be more which crop up over time, abbreviations in particular.

I swear myself and wouldn't deny it, and IMO to say you need clear guidance on what words are allowed is ridiculous. It indicates that you want to swear on the forum so much that you will use whichever words are available to you to do so. Otherwise, why do you need guidance? I don't need guidance. I just don't post anything which i think may be offensive. It's not difficult.

If you are really that bothered about being good boys and girls, don't swear on the forum. If you think something may be offensive, re-word it. Simple.

I really don't see why it needs to be an issue.
 
in light of Williams above post
is NAFF going to be added, given the last F's meaning?
is OMG going to be added, given it blasphemous overtones (using the Lords name in vain)
what about hell or its often substituted cousin heck.
I also see spastick is still allowed, even though that is very offensive to the less able bodied.

I'm with andy on this
we need clear guidance from the powers that be
I completely agree wolf, If you review my last 3 posts on this subject I have asked now more than once the same type of question. All kinds of abbreviations come to mind like you said OMG, LMAO, LMFAO just to name a few. I have asked this twice now (this will be the third) and not received a reply either time, im assuming they dont have an answer or are ignoring me.

and SH- any reason you wont reply to my posts but will to andys?

Drew
 
in light of Williams above post
is NAFF going to be added, given the last F's meaning?
is OMG going to be added, given it blasphemous overtones (using the Lords name in vain)
what about hell or its often substituted cousin heck.
I also see spastick is still allowed, even though that is very offensive to the less able bodied.

I'm with andy on this
we need clear guidance from the powers that be
I completely agree wolf, If you review my last 3 posts on this subject I have asked now more than once the same type of question. All kinds of abbreviations come to mind like you said OMG, LMAO, LMFAO just to name a few. I have asked this twice now (this will be the third) and not received a reply either time, im assuming they dont have an answer or are ignoring me.

and SH- any reason you wont reply to my posts but will to andys?

Drew

This issue started following a complaint from a member specifically regarding the now swear-filtered FTW (rearrange...you get the idea :rolleyes: ). IMO adding the original abbreviation to the swear filter was all that was required but that's water under the bridge now.

I personally have no problem with the other abbreviations you refer to and given that no-one has complained about these abbreviations, i see little point in dragging this out any further. This isn't a religious or political forum and IMHO it's high time we stopped wasting everyones time and get back to the fish. :hyper:

This isn't a direct dig at you poopsydrew (or anyone for that matter) and i agree that you deserve a response to your question, hence this post. I for one though am sick of reading about which abbreviations should or shoudn't be allowed and I am sure we all have better things to do with our time.

Just my thoughts. :fun:
 
Since we are banning abbreviations I would like a complete list of what isnt allowed so I dont offend anyone :rolleyes:

Perhaps you don't recieve replies because your requests are somewhat unrealistic.

Nobody could provide you with a comprehensive list because, as i said before, new words and abbreviations which haven't been considered before will come to light all the time.

It's down to using your common sense, and if everyone did so, this issue would never have arisen.

I for one am sick of reading about which abbreviations should or shoudn't be allowed. I am sure we all have better things to do with our time.

+1
 
I also see spastick is still allowed, even though that is very offensive to the less able bodied.

I personally have no problem with the other abbreviations you refer to and given that no-one has complained about these abbreviations, i see little point in dragging this out any further.

actually I complained about the S word many a time and it has never been added to the filter.
IMHO it is one of the most offensive words that you can call someone and when it is used in
reference to a fish with the 'wobbles' it makes me very annoyed.
 
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