What Os?

Which Operating system?

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I use windows, but most people use it. I would say MAC would definatly be up and coming as they make a great OS now and I hear of more and more people buying them over a windows system.
 
I like Windows,

I have XP and Vista on a dual boot.

When at college doing software development years ago I tried out red Hat and other linix/Unix OS's and although all are very cleever and some are free which sets some off Windows for me does what it says with the least fuss.. IMHO.

If your a publisher you would probably say Mac as that OS is industry standard or was way back..

Depending on the Job you do and what your used to as long as it works for you then thats the best at the time eh..

:good:
 
I use both Windows and Ubuntu Linux. Considering Ubuntu and all the associated software is completely free it's great, and it offers many features Vista would give it's right click for while using a fraction of the system resources. There's also loads of great apps and games available. Plus with Wine you can even get some of your windows apps and games to run too.
 
I've used all three and I have to say that OSX is the worst. I just hate the format and appeal of Apple (there shell isn't bad though). Personally they are all 'style' and no substance.

I use Ubuntu ver. Gutsy Gibbon on my laptop and Windows XP on my desktop. I've tried to run 100% Ubuntu but its just not worth the effort to imply open source drivers with the mirrored hardware. That and WINE is not without its bugs.
 
I am running vista right now...not by choice. I bought a laptop for school and all they have now is all these computers with vista on them. I am NOT going to buy a mac because it doesnt support any of the software I run, but I'm not going to lie, when I got all of my updates for vista, it runs just as clean as my old XP. I liked XP, but I like the layout of vista better, and it runs just as good...now that I updated from the windows update site.
 
i use Windows (Vista) most of the time -
Got Mac as well - -bought it out of curiousity -
a Lot of my mates suggesting that it's alot better than PC -
not too bad though specially when you're into -
downloading and stuff - - faster than PC-

but 3 out of 5 for safari - still Mozilla Firefox for me - -

:nod:
 
I liked OSX for a while, but I can't get the business model of charging the full OS price for security updates and service packs. Toss in another developer's freeware video editor and slap a slick name on it and I just don't get it... So many of their current users were Linux users back when Apple was on its way to iBankruptcy, they even more than Windows users who get these kind of updates for free should see that they're being bilked.
 
I have no idea what you are talking about Corolene! I've never paid a dime for a software update from Apple, and could you please point me to the freeware version of iMovie (I'm assuming that's what you are referring to).

I think that Apple is great for what you've just tried to lambaste them for; you'll not pay $599 for an Apple OS. On top of that, you always get the full top of the line version, there are no cut down versions for sale at a cheaper price. And what's better, you pay less for the Apple OS than you usually pay for the very basic version of whatever windows OS is current. In fact, I can get OSX Leopard from Apple for $129 right now, but to even get Windows XP (not Vista) I have to pay a minimum of $199. Vista is more like $250 for the home edition. I do think you're mistaken about having to pay for updates from Apple, you don't.

And even more, to put the icing on the Cake, Apple computers running Apple operating systems don't get viruses. That's right, you pay more for windows, which is essentailly guaranteed to let you down at least once because the storm surge of malware is too big for anyone to keep up with. And all the while you could be using a computer which runs faster by default, has no malware, and the OS's are cheaper when they are released.

Seems like a no brainer to me, but I like to think different.

SLC
 
I nearly bought a mac when I was looking for my current vista machine.... saw 2, one at pcw... the other at a mac specialist, both had crashed & staff could not sort it out..... I actually thought they were better than that, but seems the same as 10 years ago.....

for me, as a "user desktop" linux is still not sorted enough...OK that was of 12 months ago so may have changed but even here we have someone posting that a webcam is not compatible so I guess not.

XP was great, but really is not as stable as vista, a little faster maybe, but not enough for me to notice (very high end machine, so resources not an issue, on lower spec maybe) 13 months and NO crashes, no conflicts, no programs refusing to work, even some written for DOS & win3.1
 
Xp. I've never had a problem with it. :cool: When we bought our laptop a couple of years ago we were given a free Vista upgrade but i never installed it. It was a first release, which i didn't want to be having problems with, especially when XP runs fine. B-)
 
I do think you're mistaken about having to pay for updates from Apple, you don't.

XP had a product lifespan of 5 years and a support and update life planned to last 10, which would actually give it the shortest OS support life of a Microsoft OS since NT4.

Apple launched Cheetah in 2001, Puma followed less than six months later and cost the same price, and it only delivered features that were advertised as the original Cheetah launch. Jaguar was another six months later and claimed to include 150 enhancements, only 5 of which Apple published, and two of those didn't make it to launch. Jaguar boiled down to a graphical update and fixes for known bugs (the fixes are not available for free to Puma or earlier releases). Panther launched eighteen months later and included a new graphical theme, performance fixes, and user switching. There was a slight reprieve in 2004 when they actually fixed some security issues for free, but in April of 2005, the fist version of Tiger launched with issue fixes to Spotlight and the dashboard, everything else included was separate programs downloadable from Apple's website prior to the 10.4 release. In 2006, another version of Tiger launched which did nothing except DROPPING features. It still cost the same amount, and you either needed the first Tiger or an Intel mac (which came with it standard). Last year Leopard launched with more visual updates and Boot Camp and Time Machine, both of which were freely available before release. Now in a few months Snow Leopard launches which has been promised will not drop features, but will only be adding security and stability fixes.

That's just shy of $1000 now, for the original release and six minor updates (all priced the same as the initial release), which cumulatively are about the same amount of change included in XP SP2, which was one of three free large-scale updates XP's received to date. Just over $1000 if you were one of the few who bought the second Tiger instead of shelling out for an Intel mac. Inside of XP's product lifespan was over $600 worth of incremental OSX releases, and at the current rate in the equal time span to XP's planned support lifespan, there'll be two, possibly three more.
 
Corleone,

Forgive me, but you're out of your depth here. I write about Macs for a living; please allow me to straighten out a few of your misunderstandings.
Apple launched Cheetah in 2001,
Most folks were using the Open Beta for this and the retail version came with new Macs as an optional install. No-one bought the thing as their "working" OS at this point. Strictly for the geeks!
Puma followed less than six months later and cost the same price, and it only delivered features that were advertised as the original Cheetah launch.
No it didn't. It didn't cost anything. You went to an Apple Store or Apple retailer, and asked for the CD. In theory you needed to show a proof of purchase of entitled hardware or software, but in reality you didn't. They just gave you the disk. So, cost you nothing. Debatable whether it delivered features promised in the original launch, because the original launch wasn't meant to be a fully fledged OS. It was all about getting Mac users used to the switch and encouraging developers to make the change by giving them something to work with. In any case, 10.1 was usable, but at this point we were mostly using OS 9 for actual work.
Jaguar was another six months later and claimed to include 150 enhancements, only 5 of which Apple published, and two of those didn't make it to launch. Jaguar boiled down to a graphical update and fixes for known bugs...
10.1 was released September 25, 2001 and 10.2 on August 24, 2002, so there's almost a years difference, not 6 months. Jaguar was a massive overhaul. I was involved with reviews of the software using pre-releases of the OS, and it really was so much better than 10.1. In some ways it was the biggest leap forward, going from the "toy" 10.1 useful for messing about with, through to the working OS 10.2 that finally made sense as a viable new operating system. If nothing else, 10.1 was much faster than 10.0.
Panther launched eighteen months later and included a new graphical theme, performance fixes, and user switching.
Bit more to it than that. You're concentrating on shallow stuff that to be honest reveals that you don't know as much about the OS than you think you do. The big ticket items on 10.3 were security (e.g., VPN, File Vault); developer tools (e.g., XCode); the Safari browser as a high speed alternative to Explorer... Even at the consumer end you've got stuff like iChat AV and support for MS Word documents in the built-in text editor. Finally, 10.3 was faster than 10.2, carrying on the trend.
There was a slight reprieve in 2004 when they actually fixed some security issues for free,
Here you may have a point. Apple generally are very good about keeping the OS secure (certainly by contrast with Windows!) but yes, they can be ominously silent about reacting to new threats and advertising precisely what their bug fixes do about them. This is a perennial problem and one the Mac web talks about a lot.
but in April of 2005, the fist version of Tiger launched with issue fixes to Spotlight and the dashboard, everything else included was separate programs downloadable from Apple's website prior to the 10.4 release.
No no no. While I wasn't overwhelmed by this update to the OS (and certainly didn't buy it as an upgrade) there was plenty of new stuff. Spotlight was NEW to 10.4, not a "fix", and improves the way files and data are located. Dashboard widgets, Mail 2 and various other consumer grade programs were also added to the mix. I can't confess to having found 10.4 faster than 10.3, but in theory at least there was optimisation for some types of hardware that would make a difference. There was also optimisation for new hardware, specifically 64-bit processors. 10.4 was massive upgrade behind the scenes, particularly with regard to how graphics, video and images are processed.
In 2006, another version of Tiger launched which did nothing except DROPPING features. It still cost the same amount, and you either needed the first Tiger or an Intel mac (which came with it standard).
No idea what you're talking about here. 10.4 is 10.4. Updates to 10.4, up to 10.4.11 are all free.
Last year Leopard launched with more visual updates and Boot Camp and Time Machine, both of which were freely available before release.
No they were not. Boot Camp was available as a limited time beta; after release of 10.5 it stopped working. Absolutely in keeping with beta software, so nothing nefarious there. Time Machine is a new feature to 10.5. You may be mistaking Time Machine for Backup, an entirely different application provided to subscribers of iMac as a way of backing up stuff to their iDisk. Time Machine is dramatically better backup software for the casual/SoHo user than anything else out there and even by itself probably worth the money. But that's my opinion. In any case, Leopard was really not about features that the consumer used, but new tools for developers to provide faster, better programs (Ruby on Rails, Core Animation, Single UNIX Specification, etc.). But stuff like Spaces (multiple "virtual" monitors) and Safari 3 do add value for those who spring for the upgrade. I personally don't consider 10.5 an essential update if you're happy with 10.4, but it's certainly not a rip-off either.
Now in a few months Snow Leopard launches which has been promised will not drop features, but will only be adding security and stability fixes.
10.6 will likely ship early 2009 at best. In any event nobody outside Apple knows what features it will include, so your comments are a bit meaningless really.

In a nutshell, no non-geek user would have purchased 10.0, and those that did got 10.1 for free. 10.2 was certainly worth buying (and many did) and 10.3 would have been a useful upgrade, and 10.4 likewise. As for 10.5, not an essential purchase though the features it did offer included some very good ones. So, from 2001 to 2008 that's 3, possibly 4 pay-for upgrades. Not so bad really. If you want free software, try Linux. Neither Apple nor Microsoft are after that market, and both produce software to make a profit. You complain that Apple have been upgrading their OS on a bit of rapid timescale; Mac users would counter with why Windows has to be in all these stupid flavours ("Home", "Media Edition" etc) instead of just doing everything out of the box for the one price. Seriously, $449 for Windows Vista Ultimate!

You're also assuming everyone *has* to buy these upgrades. They don't. New hardware comes with new OS software, and more to the point many users simply stick with what they have. Anyone with 10.1 or 10.2 would certainly have upgraded to 10.3, but after that, it would be very much optional. Lots of folks are sticking with Windows XP and not Vista (myself for one) for just the same reason.

Cheers, Neale
 
does anyone use UBUNTU before--
they're quite good as well
the 3d and stuff is superb

not to mention if you're into HTML, XML, C++, PHP etc etc.
worth getting...

:good:
 

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