what about these fish in a 8ft tank

Oh no, well there is no point advising you seeing as you are not listening. But the Rudd need to be in shoals. The Tench do not grow 1" year mine new guys were brought at 3" and are now 7" after 11 months. The Barbel are fast growing large fish that will try to eat anything even fish if they can and with small fish like Hillstream Loaches (stick to the side thing I presume) your Barbel will eat fish.
 
Ladies and gentlemen I present to you a bad Aquarist

He knew what he was doing was cruel and he knew why and he did it anyway not disagreeing based on ANY FACT OR EXPERIANCE I hope how happy he feels with his new furniture makes up for the hell those fish will go throught or the havoc that domesticly raised barbel will reack on the local pond :angry:
 
i guess we won't see him again again as he'll be too embaressed to show his face here again once his tank is bursting at the seems with one large barbel and the others swimming in his belly!!
 
Yup he asked the experts and decided that he knew better than they did. What do you want to bet that it was really his 4 foot tank and he figured he would lye to us and they would be alright because they were under his care. I really hate people who collect fish like they do tradeing cards. :grr:
 
this is my last post as i am not coming back to read the posts most of them slag me off.

anyway like i said if the barbal grows to fast i will pit it in my pals pond


Tench grow relatively slowly as a rule, but favourable conditions of food and space have a good effect. Normally at one year they average around 1¼ in (3 cm), at two years 2½ in (6 cm), at three, when most males reach maturity they average 3¾ in (9.5 cm) and at four, when the majority of the females mature, the average is 5 in (12.5 cm).
Males that have matured possess a much thickened, strong ray in the external edge of the pelvic fins. This is not particularly distinct in the immature fish.
Tench are widely raised with carp in fish farms, although their poor growth rate makes them a long-term investment. Small local fisheries exist for wild fishes. Tench have considerable value as angler's fishes, particularly as they can be introduced to small, oxygen-deficient waters. Their hardiness and ability to live out of water for some hours helps with these introductions, but their slow growth detracts somewhat from their utility in restocking.
 
loates123 said:
Tench grow relatively slowly as a rule, but favourable conditions of food and space have a good effect. Normally at one year they average around 1¼ in (3 cm), at two years 2½ in (6 cm), at three, when most males reach maturity they average 3¾ in (9.5 cm) and at four, when the majority of the females mature, the average is 5 in (12.5 cm).
Males that have matured possess a much thickened, strong ray in the external edge of the pelvic fins. This is not particularly distinct in the immature fish.
Tench are widely raised with carp in fish farms, although their poor growth rate makes them a long-term investment. Small local fisheries exist for wild fishes. Tench have considerable value as angler's fishes, particularly as they can be introduced to small, oxygen-deficient waters. Their hardiness and ability to live out of water for some hours helps with these introductions, but their slow growth detracts somewhat from their utility in restocking.
Why do we need to know this?

The only very bad mistake you have made is the Barbel. Tench are slow growrs but that dosen't mean they should not be given adaquet space to allow them to grow to their full potentail. IMO all fish brought should have the right size tank immediatly or a certainty of having it in the case of growing out before they can be safely introduced to larger tanks.

I don't think these members have any intention about slaging you off as a person if so I don't know why. They are just worried for the fishes welfare and they have strong feeling on this subject which is why it has got quite 'heated'.
 
ok if the barbel is the only bad choice , if i keep it until it reaches around 7ins then put it in my friends pond will this be ok...

my fish

1 golden tench 4ins long
1 green tench 2ins long

2 gundeton 2 ins long

1 barbel 3 ins long


soon to be adding

2 rudd 3-4 ins long
1 c carp 3- 4 ins long

1 hillstream loach 1 ich long....

was not going to get the hillsteam loach but they dont grow big and told they are good for algea
 
Hillstream Loaches only reach about 2-3" at most check out any book or expert to find this out and although they may graze on a little algae they will mainly feed on micro organisms and are likely to be food for the Barbel, they also need a strong current.
 
i think they were some type of small Plecs not loaches, they were like a dark brown , black colour
can u tell me about these fish please
 
loates123 said:
i think they were some type of small Plecs not loaches, they were like a dark brown , black colour
can u tell me about these fish please
Hillstream Loaches are often called coldwater plecs (wrongly).

What does the fish look like, like this:

beaufortia_kweichowensis_10_small.jpg


or like this:

pleco.jpg


I am talking about the overall form of the fish, rather than colour etc because both fish come in many different colours.

They are pretty easy to tell apart. Do you have a pic of yours?
 
like the top one, but more like the colour of the bottom one
 
That's going to make it a hillstream loach. Do you have a fast current in your tank? Hillstream loaches need fast flowing, clean well oxygenated water. I think they might grow too small and have problems with the other fish you have in that tank.

Does it have fins around it's body or is it more like 2 disks when viewed from underneath?
 
the bloke in the shop said it would only grow to about 3-4 ins max

have not got it yet getting it saturday

what is the different about the two fish
 

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