Tina's Nano Journal

ive no idea tbh, id have thought it would be fully grown before then. See what happens. If it does outgrow the tank you'll be able to re-home him im sure.
The reccomended tank size for 'em is like 30USG iirc so your not too far off.

To be honest I never thought about that but yes, it is definately an option. One thing in the tanks favour is that it is 30" long not the usual 24", so it will have space to swim. The tank is also covered as I know you now recommend that. I have to say there is one in the display tank that is the same length as mine but a bit deeper, it does seem to like swimming in and out of the rock work. There are lots of holes and tunnels in mine for him to do that.

I presume your clowns did not pick on the wrasse when it was added?
 
I think we will stick with adding the clowns first, then prob a goby, then keep an eye on the water for a bit until we source a flasher we like.

How long would leave the tank after cycling before adding the first coral, I don't want to add one too soon.
 
Depends on the coral ;). If it's a softy, you can probably toss one in now (with the exception of yellow fiji leathers, they're a bit tempermental). I'd wait another month or so before going down the hard coral route.
 
Cheers Ski, that helps alot, maybe add mushrooms or something like that.

Good news "THE BOOK" has come, for the cheap price I paid I was expecting a paperback but both books are hardback. That is an advantage for me as I will end up reading them cover to cover probably 3 or 4 times. Always useful for reference books to be hardback. Only disadvantage is that it will be heavier to carry to shops with me.

Seffie, got a phonecall from hospital this morning, they have a cancellation so I am going in Thursday!!

Hope to well enough at the weekend to fetch the clowns but otherwise I have 4 days with "THE BOOK" :yahoo:
 
That's great, you will be well enough, just a bit stiff :good:

Go for the juvie clowns, you will not regret it :good: maybe even pick up a soft coral as well - go on, spoil yourself :nod:

Good Luck for Thursday :good:

seffie x

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Thanks both of you. I am a little stiff this afternoon anyway after hydrotherapy. The physio did a lot of manipulation in water in preparation for the injections, apparently this will help the injections have their maximum effect. :good:

I am really looking forward to getting the clowns, I love watching peoples videos of them, the have this really distinct waddling motion that I have not seen in other fish. Will see what they have got coral wise and if anything takes my fancy, although there is another place that has an offer on on corals where they are £25 for one or £40 for two, only softies but as thats what I am looking for it may be worth it. It will really depend how stiff I am as getting in and out of the car is one of my problems at the moment.

Have been glancing through "THE BOOK", I could not wait, and the other I got, I am really looking forward to sitting down and having a good read. I am taking them into hospital with me aswell, I have to stay in at least 2 hours after to make sure everything is okay so I see that as 2 hours with the books :lol:

Ski said to avoid the fiji yellow leather, are other leathers ok to add??
 
clowns are a favorite no doubt but they have been blamed many times for causing problems for the non anemone corals that they host so its best to keep their dark side in mind :shifty:

haven't heard of the yellow leather problem but toadstool leathers should be okay i guess. the only problem is depending on the individual coral, some take ages to open up. expect around a day to a few weeks for them to extend their polyps.

tank's coming on nicely :good: shame on the spotlight effect for the red LEDs though
 
Yeah, the Yellow leathers are just the most light-demanding of the leathers. They're a shallower water coral, which means they're used to lots of sunlight. Other Sarcophyton corals would be fine though :)
 
Yeah, the Yellow leathers are just the most light-demanding of the leathers. They're a shallower water coral, which means they're used to lots of sunlight. Other Sarcophyton corals would be fine though

Cheers Ski, have finally found 2 corals that the other half tried to describe to me that he had seen and liked (I showed him an awful lot of pictures)

One is a coral the same as one of BigC's, an Open Brain (Trachyphyllia radiata) in a creamy colour, he will have to wait for this though, I consulted the book and am not happy to add it while I am starting out.

The other coral is a Sarcophyton sp or mushroom leather that looked pinky in colour, this I will allow him to have.

Apart from the cost if I lose a coral, I am not happy to lose one if there is anything I could do to prevent it, this includes purchasing corals that I am not confident in caring for, as such I will be starting with the easiest of my choices.

The hospital was a nightmare, they got me there for 8.00am (1 hour drive away) and I did not need to be there till 11.00am. I was not impressed, especially when the alarm went off at 5.45 and it was a decent nights sleep for once. I have a very sore bottom, very stiff pelvis, 2 legs that aches like no mans business and boy am I suffering, cannot find the best postion at all. Just as the second injection went in the muscle started spasming and I jumped knocking the needle against the spine and back against the pelvis, that damn well hurt. That leg is throbbing aswell.

The remainder of my CUC arrived, I added 3 true turbos to the 3 astreas, the astreas seem to cover more area where the turbos go quite slowly but boy do they clean, thouroughly!!
I added another 2 Cerith snails so I now have 6. I ordered 5 nassarius vibex, they are the sweetest snails I have ever seen, there telescopes are fantastic, can see 2 sticking up from the sand. I also added 3 more red legged hermits making a total of 5. They are blooming lazy so far and one hermit (1st batch it is Chephren) is sporting a rather large shell reminisent of a large cerith shell (one I added so not one of my snails) I hope they buck their ideas up or they will be more than evicted from their shells, they will be gone!

At a later date I will add some more nass vibex and will possibly get rid of the larger Turbos, depends what they are like with the corals, if they walk all over them and irritate them they will be gone. I also seem to have very small organisms flitting about the sand, not sure what they are?? Certainly seems alive now.

CUC list (may be a bit heavy but lighter than steelhealrs suggestion)

3 True turbo
3 Astrea
6 Cerith
5 Nassarius vibex
5 Scarlet reef hermits - Chephren, Mycerinus, Sneferu, Djoser, Unas.

Not particularly CUC

1 Fire Shrimp - Cheops

The water stats

pH 8.0
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 5

The clowns will be added this weekend, I am being taken to Aquascope in Blackburn tommorrow night.

Anybody fancy guessing the clowns names??
(will not be distuinguished until female has emerged, but I know what their names will be)

Hopefully will get one or two corals aswell!

This is all presuming I feel well enough to do it tomorrow night.
 
what an ordeal!! :sad:

oh clown names; i take it your not struck on nemo :lol: just like me.... netty? mildred? grandville? :lol: were goin' ol' school here
 
It was an ordeal truck, glad to say I feel not to bad this morning. Still sore at the injection sites and a bit stiff, but that won't stop me going out later.

Ok on the clowns names, no nemo will not be in my tank. Think about the theme so far :book: :fun:

If I told you cheops, chefhren and mycernius are the names of the pyramids on the giza plataeu, then Sneferu, djoser and unas all built pyramids but at saqqara, it may give you a clue, however I have exhausted the main pyramid builders so am moving on to pharoahs who did not build pyramids. The clowns will be named after my favourite pharoah and his great royal wife who to give you a clue built a rather large monument somewhere in egypt that I visited last year!!

If your wondering, I did the tour, cruise and red sea in Egypt last year for my 30th Birthday, have always been mad on egypt, so this is my reason for the naming!! :good:


EDIT Have noticed this morning that Cheops (fire shrimp) has shed his skin. I thought he had been a little secretive the last few days!! From what I have read this happens in new tanks, have left the skin for the CUC to take care of :good: :nod:
 
Why can't hospital visits ever be simple, I have grown to hate the place :eek:
Anyway good to hear you felt ok today :good:

See you're more up market than me, my Grandson has named all my tank occupants after the tweenies :lol:

My skunk cleaner shrimp shred its skin after a few days, perfectly normal :good:
 
Why can't hospital visits ever be simple, I have grown to hate the place :eek:
Anyway good to hear you felt ok today :good:

See you're more up market than me, my Grandson has named all my tank occupants after the tweenies :lol:

My skunk cleaner shrimp shred its skin after a few days, perfectly normal :good:

No hospital visits never simple, unfortunately I work in one so cannot avoid them really.

Luckily I don't have kids (nor g kids) so I get to name the inhabitants myself, other half looks at me really strange when I go up to the tank and stand there saying "hello cheops", he thinks I am crazy anyway :crazy:

I have finally found the batteries and charger for my camera so no need to use moms anymore (mom is kodak Z something, mine is Fuji S9500)

New Pictures

Chephren sporting his new Cerith shell

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Chephren deciding whether to move house again

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Sneferu, Djoser and Unas

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Sneferu

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and again

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Djoser

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Unas

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Astrea snail

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and again

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Cerith snails

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Nassarius vibex

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Tank shot

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Full Tank Shot

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The full tank shots were taken Wednesday night, the sand has now been completely cleared and there are not alot of diatoms left at all!! :good:

Unfortunately the HOB filter broke, powerhead part of it blew :angry: so the phosphate remover and carbon are presently in an old internal, which is at least adding to the turnover :good:
Need to order a new one, got it off ebay, not in original box :angry:
Phosphate test kit came this morning and phosphate tests as 0 so that is good. :good:

Will get more photos after clowns gone in and another FTS then so that you can see how clean it now is. Am doing weekly water change today so that I can leave it till next week and the clowns get longer to settle in before I have to mess :good:
 

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