This Stuff Realy Works

[grimmy]

http/www.petmountain.com/product/water-c...hwater-8gr.html i used yesterday and today my tank is cyrctle clear my ammonia was at 3ppm now it went down oppm. My Nitrite was 3.0ppm now its at 1.0ppm. plus ive added a spodge filter.

http/www.petmountain.com/product/water-c...72/biozyme.html

 

[afishdude]

no it doesn't. it pro longs your cycle.

it makes your tank not cycle.

if you read it, it takes the ammonia and nitrIte and converts them into non toxic forms. so then your bacteria in your filter doesn't grow, and thus your filter doesn't cycle.

 

[grimmy]

oh man that sucks

 

[TylerFerretLord]

no it doesn't. it pro longs your cycle.

it makes your tank not cycle.

if you read it, it takes the ammonia and nitrIte and converts them into non toxic forms. so then your bacteria in your filter doesn't grow, and thus your filter doesn't cycle.

Did you even look at the link? It's not an ammonia-locking product, it's bacteria.

I used biozyme on my ten gallon when I cycled and it had some effect.

 

[afishdude]

lol yea i did.
" Converts lethal ammonia and nitrite into nitrate."

anywase, its impossible for it to have enough bacteria in it to make your ammonia go from 3 to 0 and nitrite 3 to 0, that would take weeks, even with a fully cycled filter.

 

[grimmy]

no the nitrite is still high 1.0ppm

 

[littlest]

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anywase, its impossible for it to have enough bacteria in it to make your ammonia go from 3 to 0 and nitrite 3 to 0, that would take weeks, even with a fully cycled filter.

A fully cycled filter wouldn't take weeks to process 3ppm of ammonia and 3ppm of nitrite, it would take hours.

I admit it is surprising that this product has had such a big effect so quickly, but it doesn't sound like it would slow down his cycle. It says it converted ammonia and nitrite to nitrate through bacteria and enzymes. Hopefully some of those bactera would stick around and multiply, aiding the cycle.

1ppm of nitrite is still a problem though Grimmy and you still need to do water changes to keep this down.

 

[afishdude]

well when you figure that the bacteria makes the ammonia convert into ammonium, then to nitrIte, then it goes away, that would take a wile to convert 3ppm of ammonia.
3ppm of ammonia and nitrite is very lethal to fish.
grimmy, you need to be doing water changes every day during this time.

 

[littlest]

When you are cycling a tank you need it to convert 5-6ppm of ammonia to zero in 12 hours, and nitrite to be zero too. at the end of my fishless cycle my bacteria were converting 5-6ppm of ammonia to 0 ammonia and 0 nitrite in about 5-6 hours. Quite a difference to "weeks".

Though I agree that Grimmy should be doing daily water changes

 

[Musho3210]

grimmy, i really HIGHLY doubt you have ever had that nitrite and ammonia level. Like a month ago you posted about a 3.0 ppm of nitrite and you still have it up to before you used the bacteria stuff. But you have never posted about sick fish or brown gills or why are my fish dead. Which leads me to believe that you have a crappy test kit. What test kit are you using?


Nitrifying bacteria cannot be in a dry form.

 

[grimmy]

jungle labs quick dips

 

[littlest]

jungle labs quick dips

They don't even test for ammonia do they? where are you getting your ammonia readings from? You really need to buy some liquid tests. Strips are very inaccurate.

sorry I've realised now that Jungle Labs also do quick dip tests for ammonia. I was only aware of the 6in1 tests before, which don;t test for ammonia. Either way, strips are still inaccurate and you'd be much better off with liquid tests

 

[rdd1952]

That is simply another of he bacteria in a bottle products that won't work. It doesn't say on the package but is it liquid or powder? Looks to be powder to me and it is a proven fact that nitrifyiing bacteria can not live in a dried state meaning that there is no way that product could contain nitrifying bacteria.

Edit: Below is a quote from this site:

"Many companies package spore-forming Bacillus bacteria and claim that the bottle contains nitrifiers. These products always have a long shelf-life (greater than 7 months). Since true nitrifiers are not spore-forming, products containing true nitrifiers always have a short shelf life. In this way, it is easy to determine when an "imposter bacteria" is masquerading as a nitrifier; it will either not have a posted shelf life, or the shelf life will be longer than 7 months. All dry product formulations claiming to contain nitrifiers use blatant false advertising. These products consist of sludge-eaters in their spore stage. Dry formulas can NOT contain nitrifiers; since true nitrifiers are not spore forming, they cannot be dried into powdered products. Any microbiologist will confirm this fact. Nitrifiers cannot survive the drying or freeze-drying process; they will not maintain any valuable culture or inoculate."

 

[DiscusKeeper403]

Grimmy,


STOP TRYING TO FIND EASY WAYS OUT, CLEAN YOUR TANKS NORMALLY, AND LISEN TO US!!!


I am starting to think this is a joke...

 

[mystus1]

actually i believe it converts amonnia to amonnium -the non-toxic form ---your bio field still uses that as a food source,just as it does ammonia...it slows down the cycle but does not stop it.

Grimmy,


STOP TRYING TO FIND EASY WAYS OUT, CLEAN YOUR TANKS NORMALLY, AND LISEN TO US!!!


I am starting to think this is a joke...