Stocking Ideas (Edited: Now With Pics)

Right, completely agree with Curiosity here.

The Blue,Opy,Gold,3Spot are all the same fish. They are color morphs of the the old 3spot and their scientific name is Trichogaster trichopterus. I've kept these and not only are they big but my personal experience was that when placed in a community and a tank too small, the males were more trouble even than cichlids when they get territorial. They are a wonderful fish in a 75 or 125 US gallon where they can have a top corner or half and are put in their place by still larger fish in the tank. But they are usually wrong in a tank less than 40G or so with smaller community fish is my feeling, but depends on the community.

The Honeys (Trichogaster chuna) are a completely different story, being the gourami of choice in smaller commnuity tanks. The Pearl (Trichogaster leerii) is somewhere in between as its possible for it to get a bit large (but maybe not too large for Ally's 24G) but I wouldn't put more than a pair probably. They are also between in aggression but closer to the Honey, which is not aggressive at all is my feeling.

Probably the reason those particular tetras are nippy at all is just that their shoal of 6 feels a little cramped in less than 100L and would be more used to not having other fish in their little shoaling space, which is what's happening in a tank. In the wild their shoal would be more like 100 and they'd have their area of the river/stream and the only intruders would be coming in to eat them. The large shoal moves to form a "shape" that the attacker thinks is a still larger fish and it hopefully turns away. Slower intruders (the angel and possibly Honeys in this case) are nipped to just keep the space pure so the the defensive mechanism is the most effective. I think as the glowlights got up to 8 or 10, they would probably leave the honeys alone.

This is an excellent example of sticking to it and working hard on a good stocking plan. Well done Ally! You're going to enjoy it and grow as a fishkeeper!

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Firstly, I'd just like to say a big thank you to everyone who has helped me with my stocking and helped me learn about gouramis (a type of fish I didn't know much about before, besides that they had a labyrinth organ).
After reading all of your comments and suggestions I feel much more confident about buying some gouramis and knowing what to expect. Before I go to the LFS next (which will probably be sometime before X-mas) I will write a lot of this info down to take it with me. Like how to sex them, the correct amounts of fish and the male to female ratio. That way I won't be tricked into buying something that does not at all suit my tank and regretting it later - which I, and I'm sure many others have done before.
As I am not completely sure which way I want to go yet, either honey gouramis or pearl gouramis, and I'm not sure what my LFS has in stock, I am going to post 2 different alternative stocking list that I would like. I would appreciate it if you could just have a final check over them and make sure that there will hopefully be no problems. The stocking lists are as follows:
Stocking List 1
-5 honey gouramis (2m + 3f or 1m + 4f)
-10 glowlight tetras (adding 4 more as already have 6)
-6 corys (all one species)
If there are any problems with this list please tell me.
Stocking List 2
-2 pearl gouramis (1m + 1f or 2f)
-10 glowlight tetras
-6 corys
If there are any problems with this list please tell me.
Again, I'd like to say thank you to everybody for their helpful and greatly appreciated input.
Ally
 
I think you'll be pushing it a bit on both of those stockings bio-load wise. I'm not saying it's too high full stop, just it's a bit high to 'start' with.

I'd drop the honeys to 3 (1m + 2f) that way you can always add another male and another female later on.
And drop the glowlights to 8 on each stocking.

So...
Stocking List 1
-3 honey gouramis (1m + 2f)
-8 glowlight tetras
-6 corys (all one species)


Stocking List 2
-2 pearl gouramis (1m + 1f or 2f)
-8 glowlight tetras
-6 corys

I just don't want you to find in a few months time that you're having a massive ammonia spike that wont go away cause your filter can't cope. Or that your nitrates are at an un manageable level. It's easier to add fish than take away.

Aside from that however, have fun. Oh and don't add all the new fish in one go. I'd suggest 2 new tetra, then a few days, then the corys, then a few more days, then whichever pair/group of gourami you pick.
Just so it gives your filter time to catch up. If you add them all at once then you will have a pretty decent ammonia spike.
 
Thank you for all your help Curiosity. I really don't mind that the stocking list had to be slightly altered. I would rather have happy fishies than dead fishies. And as you said, if things go well I can add more honey's later (that's if I decide to get honey's). But that we be a while down the track.

I won't add everything at once. I should be going to the LFS tomorrow, so I will get the tetras then and I'll get the others some time after Christmas. Because I definately don't want an ammonia spike. That wouldn't be a very nice Christmas present.

I've writen all the info that I might need down and I'll bring that to the LFS tomorrow.

Thank you everyone for your help.
Ally
 
I bought my 2 glowlights today and getting the corys tomorrow. The glowlights look so small compared to my others. Lol. They're tiny.
I'll try to take some photos after I get my corys but I'm not a very good photographer, so I don't know how good they'd be.
I also bought a betta today. He is in my smaller tank. I have had a betta before but he died of old age about a month ago. My new one is a male veiltail and is a reddish pinkish colour. I'll get pics soon.
 
I know this is just being nosey, but what set-up is the betta in? And most importantly does he have a cycled filter?
How old was your betta when he died?
 
I know most people will probably have a go at me for the size of my betta tank. It is 2 gallons. And I know that it is recommended for the tank to be bigger than that, but I am not allowed to get another tank.

The tank has a cycled filter and a heater, and the water is changed often.

My last betta was about 3 when he died and he didn't show any signs of disease before his death. He just became a little less active.

Please dont yell at me about my bettas tank as it is well maintained and I feel that it is okay (not perfect) but okay for my betta to live in.

ALso, I will charge my camera batteries now and try to get some pics up as soon as possible.
 
If you look after it, a Betta splendens can work fine in a 2 gallon tank. You are right that there are people who are intolerant of those they don't agree with but that is their problem, not yours. It sounds like the betta had reached a decent age and if it was your first fish it probably took you a while to catch on to everything he needed.
 
If he lived to 3 then you certainly must have done something right :D
I would always personally have a betta in nothing short of 5gal, but a heated, filtered and well cared for is the most important thing. And you have shown you're capable of caring for a male in that volume of water.
Though I would advise you to try to pick a male with a slightly shorter tail as you might find he struggles to turn around properly if you get a particularly fancy looking male.
 
I can assure everyone that my betta is well cared for. I took some pics of him and the tank and some of my new fish today. I will post them soon. It was very difficult to get a good pic of the tetras and the corys because they are constantly moving. Lol. My betta was hard to get pictures of too, but at least he sometimes sits still.
I will try to post them now and hopefully they will work.
 
Here are the pics. Some are a bit blurry but I couldn't get any better ones.

Some of my glowlight tetras:
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One of my bronze corys:
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My betta:
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My bettas tank:
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I hope you enjoy all the pictures!
Ally.
 
Bump.

Anybody want to see the pictures?

I have read all the forum and it is really nice to see people doing the right thing by asking and obeying, I don't want to be a hypocrite so I got to admit that i have put in fish that is a bit of a risk but mainly because i got a lot of advice from the shop keepers.
I have a green spotted puffer in tropical who is doing fine like the shop keeper said he would be fine as he has kept his GSP in tropical since small and he has grown 3"+. He is in a 4ft with my Dora and cichlids peacefully but am looking to convert my 32" x 12" x 16" tank to brackish and rehome him there.

'Ally555' Yeah a really nice tank and would love some more pics showing the whole of the 90lt tank.
 

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