Bought a pair of Siamese fighters (m&F) yesterday found both dead. Male's fins ripped off. Now I have discovered 3 tetras missing (presumed dead). Tank is only been up and running three weeks but water definately ok. Any advice (I also have 2 male swordtails one is not looking good!)
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Amunet
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You didn't have the 2 bettas together did you?? They're called Siamese FIGHTING fish for a reason. They're kept seperated at the pet store for a reason. It's b/c they will fight til the death.
Just b/c it was male and a female doesn't mean they're going to get along. Females can be just as nasty as the males. And males will attack the females.
Just b/c it was male and a female doesn't mean they're going to get along. Females can be just as nasty as the males. And males will attack the females.
stang1
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So sorry for your loss.
Males and females can only be kept together when breeding and then only for a short time. They can be extremely aggressive towards one another and it sounds as though they attacked one another. I'm not too sure about your tetras but they may well have been killed as well.
Male Bettas aren't great community fish as they can be territorial and don't like sharing their tank with other fish.
P.S. Amunet, sorry but your answer came across as a bit harsh. The chances are the Op was given bad advice. I had the same problem when I first got into fishkeeping. I was told by my lfs that a male and females would be ok together.
Males and females can only be kept together when breeding and then only for a short time. They can be extremely aggressive towards one another and it sounds as though they attacked one another. I'm not too sure about your tetras but they may well have been killed as well.
Male Bettas aren't great community fish as they can be territorial and don't like sharing their tank with other fish.
P.S. Amunet, sorry but your answer came across as a bit harsh. The chances are the Op was given bad advice. I had the same problem when I first got into fishkeeping. I was told by my lfs that a male and females would be ok together.
doresy
Sometimes Right, Sometimes Wrong but ALWAYS certai
you really do learn more from this forum than the LFSSo sorry for your loss.
Males and females can only be kept together when breeding and then only for a short time. They can be extremely aggressive towards one another and it sounds as though they attacked one another. I'm not too sure about your tetras but they may well have been killed as well.
Male Bettas aren't great community fish as they can be territorial and don't like sharing their tank with other fish.
P.S. Amunet, sorry but your answer came across as a bit harsh. The chances are the Op was given bad advice. I had the same problem when I first got into fishkeeping. I was told by my lfs that a male and females would be ok together.
I'm always wary of taking advice from somebody that wants to sell you something 
you really do learn more from this forum than the LFSSo sorry for your loss.
Males and females can only be kept together when breeding and then only for a short time. They can be extremely aggressive towards one another and it sounds as though they attacked one another. I'm not too sure about your tetras but they may well have been killed as well.
Male Bettas aren't great community fish as they can be territorial and don't like sharing their tank with other fish.
P.S. Amunet, sorry but your answer came across as a bit harsh. The chances are the Op was given bad advice. I had the same problem when I first got into fishkeeping. I was told by my lfs that a male and females would be ok together.
Ok thanks guys, I thought a pair would get on well! Clearly not! Oh well one lives and learns. Thanks for the advice!
newtotropical
Fishaholic
What are your water stats? Sounds like your tank isint cycled yet & that could explain the other deaths.
ChiefGourami
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Don't ever keep fighters together unless like already stated, are attempting to breed. Neither should you keep anything with long flowing fins (e.g Guppies etc)with them as they wll also mistake them for another Betta and either injure or kill it.
billpayers
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If you want siamese male and female. The best thing to do is buy at least 2-3 females therefor not taking all of his aggression out on a solo. I have found out also males don't like Platies
stang1
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Even with a group of females a male should not be kept with them! As stated before, a male should only be kept with a female for breeding and only for a short time.
Males are solitary fish and are fine kept on their own.
billpayers
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As I stated if not breeding and ideally they wont be in a community tank. instead of 1 female buy at least 2 females.
actually at least 3 femals is ideal... they pick on one another (a pecking order) and if there are only 2... one is gonna get picked on... and die...
OohFeeshy
It's only forever; not long at all...
What a stupid viewpoint... That's exactly like saying it's fine to keep at least four males together because the agression is spread out... They're not livebearers- they attack each other because they're aggressive and terratorial, not because they want to breed (in most cases).
DarkEntity
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You sure you bought a male and a female?
a good 80% of so called female Betta are Male Plakats.
As for the number of females, it doesnt matter, you simply dont put them with the males unless they are showing spawning markings.
OohFeeshy
It's only forever; not long at all...
I doubt that figure is true- 5%, maybe, not 80. Besides which, you also get juvenile VTs in, sometimes even more than you get PKs mixed in.
billpayers
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I have 1 male siamese and 2 female I dont have any problems in pecking orders. not everything has the same temperament same goes as people. 1 fish would kill everything 1 wouldnt ...
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