our goldfish get i would say
a 50% water change strait of
the cold water tap and nothing has happened to the
they lived in a tank were the water had
never been changed for several years
before we got them and the filter didn't
wasent working as well as soon as
Amanda took over two month later they
spawned and there getting on a bit
at least 6 years we know of
Thats because they are goldfish, they can live in an untreated and unmaintaded outdoor pond. They are not Tanganyikan cichlids
dont come that with me goldfish or not
whether there out side or not they still need water changes
are you telling me that koi keepers dont do water changes
i have been keeping fish for over 20years plus and as long as water changes
are done fish are happy in the wild mother nature dose big water changes
like flooding i do 25% weekly or fortnightly and a big water change every month or month and a half and yes i have kept riffs and tanganyikans
i have also kept discus angels and marines fish so dont try and tell
me about water changes i use to take me seven hours to do all my water changes and test all my tanks
My comments have all been related to the OP actually problem, avoiding large water changes when introducing fish from old to new tank to reduce the stress.
I do monthly water changes however I let that water sit at 26 deg for a day in a quarantine tank treated with conditioner before I introduce that into the just under half tank water change.
My parents like most parent gave me gold fish in the 80s never even heard of any water treatment we didn't know any different filled the tank with plain tap water drop the fish in they lived for many years. We used to completely empty the tank every couple months including rocks , the gold fish never died until a some yabbies we put in that ate them 5 or so years later.
How can you seriously tell me Gold fish are not relevant example that they don't care how badly you treat them? They are the first fish for beginner because how forgiving they are to lack of knowledge and extreme conditions.
you can throw as many links up as you
want we were saying large water changes
not stripping down and scrubbing everything
large water changes help control nitrate
were small 10 to 25 % water changes allow the build up and every month a large water
change lowers the amount of nitrate which
is a contributing factor to all forms of algae and is also detrimental to fish health
and with you keeping tanganyikans and riffs should know that they dont have a good tolerance to nitrate
The links were mearly to show it is purely disgusting that anyone throw insults at an opinion or personal experience this is a community.
Water change technique is a widely varying diverse topic. Neither mine nor yours is wrong it your choice for your situation.
I was just trying to say that avoiding a full water change would have helped avert death of all his fish
Obviously noone else seems to care about that topic more interesting in throwing insults and looking for an argument.
So you are telling me that contaminated water in an 60-90% water change
which is the actual context all this was made in this thread
Do you believe that the water change and tank change that was done by the original post did not cause or contribute to the problem to kill his fish?
Algae, nitrate, carbon whatever the cause / this wasn't caused or exacerbated by the complete water change to a new tank?
This wasn't introduced from this new water?
basically appears OP did a complete empty and scrub of a tank. Empty Tank -> All New water -> Reintroduce fish -> no wait.
The OP never shared any of this detail about
-how his fish got from one tank to another, nor
-how much water came across with the dirty ornaments from the old tank.
-how he cleaned the new pepples or tank
-how long the water was settled and whether it was conditioned at all.
Where did I say water should never be changed at all? Because I did not
I accept that I need to change less than half the tanks water every month. but 25-50% every 'week' would be too much for me to risk on fish worth more than $5 non training wheel fish ( very hardy fish Goldfish, guppies, Neon/Bloodfin Tetras).
You say large water changes to my knowledge I don't believe a large water change should exceed 50% for sensitive breeds fish.
Are you suggesting I should change 60% of my 26 degree celcius water with my kitchen sinks 10 degree tap water right now?
are you confident my cichlids and gouramis will survive that rapid drop of -10 degrees or more, the change of water mineral and PH content?
Yes I understand that fish can survive a complete water change otherwise how else would you buy new fish to put into your tanks.
You would agree the introduction is done slowly into water that has fish living in it and is known to good safe water.
But this case Fresh water in new tank with no fish is the unknown, the fish ended up dead in this tank.
/www.google.com/search?hl=&q=water+change+aquariums&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B7GGLL_enAU368AU368&ie=UTF-8
up on water changes and see how wrong you are
