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[t1tanrush]

Hey everybody!! I've finally got my dwarf puffer (5 gallon hex) tank set up ^^ now I know it's not advised but I've here's what in there...

3 otos
3 Dwarf puffer...

Yeah I know they are very agressive, but the guy at the LFS gave me 3 for the price of 2... apparently on Wednesday there if you buy 2 you get 1 free... well if I notice agression I've got a 3 gallon tank ready and I'll buy another 5 gallon (if called for)... well here are some pics of the set-up! Sorry couldn't get any close ups of the puffers, they went right into the plants

Have to say im dissappointed in you. Nice tank, but over stocked. Just becuase the LFS gave you an offer dont mean you have to take it. Considering they recommend a minimum of 3 gallons per DP that mans you need a tank with at least 9 Gallons of space + then more space to make up for plant coverage and also to accomadateyour Otos.

Also according to this you work at a LFS. Well i hope you dont recommend people to overstock tanks.

As i guess your aware DPs are pure freshwater fish so the amount of waste build up from the 3 of them in such a confined space could probably kill them. Also there wont be enough space for them to establish their own territory in such a small tank.

Like i said im dissappointed in you after you asked for all the help and advice like this thread here where multiple users her give you some guidence about stocking a 5 Gallon tank and you hav simply gone against it all due to a offer in a LFS. oh dear poor DPs.

ok I don't care what your saying about the overstock, I thought I made that clear with the last post... also, the wood was suggested by somebody on the forum... might not add wood might add rocks... besides like I said in my first post, I've got a 3 gallon avaiable and if need be I'll buy another 5 gallon tank... so now that we've got that covered, what do you think of the tank? and not the stocking because like I said I don't care if you bad mouth it...

No because people like you obviously dont care about the welfare of the puffers/fish.

It's like putting you in a tiny room with loads of people sure you'd love that.

Guys as they say "if you havent got anything nice or helpful to say best to keep it to yourself". What ever happend to the nice tropical fish forums where everyone used to actually help eachother.

Maybe because the OP in question here asked multiple questions on DPs and how many should be kept in what tank with what occupants and numbers and then just ignors everyones advice on the puffers well-being.

Why bother asking for advice if all your going to do is ignore it....i will say no more on this matter but this tank is flawed in its current state just trying to make the OP aware of this but the OP seems to nieve to listen to anyones advice. I say no more.

I feel a need to respond..
Daz, not everyone who frequents these forums are going to believe the same things you, or other members may. I've had people tell me tons of different things on fish keeping. I've been told to under stock my tank to avoid aggression, and I've been told to overstock the tank to help keep down aggression. In the end, its what works for THAT PERSON. In this case, his fish will be fine, with the plants and being 3 of them, they should even the aggression out, or maybe not have any at all. If the tank is cleaned frequently, and the fish have plenty of swimming room (which they do) Its not a big deal. Please, calm down.

Fate, really like it. Awhile back I was going to get a dwarf puffer, but after doing some research it was a bit more than I wanted to take on. So I ended up with an ACF instead, lucky, you got puffers and have plans for ACF! I gotta catch up!

 

[cane76]

nice little tank fate

 

[nurglespuss]

Liking the tank, and if your fish are happy, the plants do well and its filtered well. It ain't ovestocked. Just as a comment, I've seen Pup-fish living in a stretch of water 20inches long, and about three wide, and there were 25+ in there, just remember, fish are alot more tolerant than you give them credit for, and survive very harsh, fluctuating conditions in the wild.

Oh, and to Daz, advice is just that advice, if someone doesnt like it, thet don't have to follow or aknowledge it. You choose to give it, thats your perogative.

 

[sammy86]

billions of people have goldfish in a tiny bowl! this tank is a palace compared to that!
Some of the comments are so mean, noone knows 100% the right or wrong way to look after animals, its up to the owner!

 

[Rhiannon]

Ffs, cant anyone be nice?

Seriously, this is all I am seeing on this forum. Its such a turn off.

He maybe over stoked, but gee, you dont have to treat him like an peice of poo.

Some of you may just need to get lives and stop picking on people through a god damn computer...

Would you speak to someone like that in real life..I highly doubt it, and dont bother saying you would, because thats just bull.

 

[nurglespuss]

Not to sound like Jerry Springer but 'you go girl' !

 

[Fate2006]

Nurgle and Rihannon Thanks much for stickin up for me ^^ and I agree "you go girl!" thanks for all the great comments guys

 

[~T~]

I agree with Daz, we are only looking of for the wellbeing of your fish which is why you are here asking questions in the first place.If someone came on here saying how do you like my dog in a little cage or something there wouldnt be any of these just be nice comments.People would be outraged(unless they hated dogs or something).I dont care if you just asked for people opinion on the tank look, people are more interested in the wellbeing of your fish.The one that died may have been sick in the shop but its more likely it died from stress from being bullied by its tankmates due to the tank being too small for these aggressive little fish.

 

[andywg]

Ffs, cant anyone be nice?

Seriously, this is all I am seeing on this forum. Its such a turn off.

He maybe over stoked, but gee, you dont have to treat him like an peice of poo.

Some of you may just need to get lives and stop picking on people through a god damn computer...

Would you speak to someone like that in real life..I highly doubt it, and dont bother saying you would, because thats just bull.

This is not just about being overstocked, it's about coming on here, asking for advice and then blatently ignoring it. to me that is an insult. If you aren't going to listen to advice, don't ask for it, and certainly don't expect those you consulted with to condone your actions.

If someone came up to me in real life, asked me a question and I went to the trouble of recounting experience and knowledge on what is the best course of action and they dismissed it out of hand to do what I said they shouldn't, then yes, I would call them an idiot. I would expect someone else to do the same to me if I acted that stupidly as well.

That is not "bull", just how life is. Just because you couldn't have the courage of your own convictions to confront someone in real life does not mean others do not.

Put it in a different way. If you ask a car mechanic if you car needs diesel or petrol and he says diesel, when you take the car to him becuase it's broke and you point out you put perol in he will call you an idiot.

 

[clareriley]

wow, I come back after many months away and its not changed..
Love the tank, the plants are cool, what are they? I think those would love nice in my betta tank.

 

[nukeonekitty]

For the record, yeah Fate, I was trying to stick up for you. I don't agree with your stocking, but I am not one to insult someone because I don't agree with them, it is very juvenile. I have read the entire thread and no where did I see Fate ask for advice so stop saying he did. Maybe he did on a different post and didn't want to take it. You don't take every piece of advice given to you. I know this because I advised you to be a little less hostile with you post and you didn't take it, that insulted me...

 

[Daz CPFC]

I have read the entire thread and no where did I see Fate ask for advice so stop saying he did. Maybe he did on a different post and didn't want to take it.

He asked may questions in the oddball section of the site as i stated and i dont care if they are in this thread or not the fact remains he asked for assistance in his stocking choice. If he wasn't intrested in listening to me and other members it would be polite not to waste our time asking them when we could be helping someone else in my honest opinion. Either way you can see posters here are both for and against what i have said but as andywg says why bother asking for adivce if you aint going to listen to it anyway??

Personally i agree with what ~T~ and andywg said. People have different views and express them in different ways. This was just my way of stating my disappointment at the OP for asking me and the members here for our collective advice and shoving it in our face when in reality he knew better just my 2 cents.

 

[gangeox]

I agree with Daz 100%, the fish should always come first and if you ask people if they like your tank and you state whats in it people who know about stocking levels and compatability will mention it.

 

[andywg]

I have read the entire thread and no where did I see Fate ask for advice so stop saying he did. Maybe he did on a different post and didn't want to take it. You don't take every piece of advice given to you. I know this because I advised you to be a little less hostile with you post and you didn't take it, that insulted me...

You can't have looked too hard for where he has asked for advice. While he didn't ask for it on this thread, the poster you have taken issue with clearly linked to it earlier on (my bold):

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Like i said im dissappointed in you after you asked for all the help and advice like this thread here where multiple users her give you some guidence about stocking a 5 Gallon tank and you hav simply gone against it all due to a offer in a LFS. oh dear poor DPs.

I am not being at all hostile in my answers. I am merely stating that he asked for advice and ignored it. Just because someone didn't surround his comments with nice fluffy words you get all upset. You say you have examined the whole thread and yet missed the link in a post from someone you have taken issue with.

And for the record, I never cared to ask for your advice so your point about the way I respond is entirely non-consequential to this debate. If I had started a thread asking you how I should respond and then ignored you, there might be a case, but as it is there is no locus standi in your point.

 

[nukeonekitty]

I never said anything of addressing a person with "fluff", if you read the thread then you know I was originally brought into this when people were calling Fate an idiot... no need for that. Say he is making a mistake or what not, but there is no need to call someone an immature name because you don't agree with them. Please do spare me the Latin, I find myself rather sick of it after 6 years of study and nothing irritates me more than someone trying to come off as some sort of philosopher by using it. We have modern language, exercise it.

He may have wasted your time originally, but you are wasting your own time now trying to convince him that you are RIGHT! I hate to break it to you, but in no way, shape or form is it natural to keep any fish in any size aquarium.