One Dead Ruby Barb, Some Other Fish Swimming Irratically

I suppose its gill flukes.
 
Try treating it with some tetra brand or API brand anti Internal parasites and external
 
Okay, it's a public holiday here so i'm not sure my local store will be open, will the fish be OK until tomorrow?
 
If it's gill flukes, they'd be gasping at the surface first.
Ectoparasite infection just means external parasite infection of some sort. Some of these known ones are ich, gill flukes, velvet, lice, etc..Ich can also hide in the gills at first so the fish may appear clear on the outside but possibly gasping too if that's the case.
 
snazy said:
If it's gill flukes, they'd be gasping at the surface first.
Ectoparasite infection just means external parasite infection of some sort. Some of these known ones are ich, gill flukes, velvet, lice, etc..Ich can also hide in the gills at first so the fish may appear clear on the outside but possibly gasping too if that's the case.
 
I've ordered a product called Sterazin, treats external parasites including skin and gill flukes, so that will hopefully do the trick.
 
Been treating this for a week now with Sterazin. Doesn't seem to have helped, i have now lost all Ruby Barbs, 1 glowlight tetra and 1 angelfish. I honestly don't know what to do...
 
Can you list some more info please.
 
Tank size.
Water hardness.
Temp of tank.
Nitrites, PH etc... again
 
I assume you use dechlorinator for water changes.
You also have a filter running perfectly without any changes?
Good aeration.
 
Nothing new was added right? Such as something that may have metal? Heavy metal poisoning does make fish gasp for air. 
 
 
I would do a gravel clean and get rid of as much waste as possible. 
I would do a 50% water change with dechlorinator.
Check over your heater to make sure you have the right condition.
Check that the surface has a lot of surface movement from air stones.
 
Unseen said:
Can you list some more info please.
 
Tank size.
Water hardness.
Temp of tank.
Nitrites, PH etc... again
 
I assume you use dechlorinator for water changes.
You also have a filter running perfectly without any changes?
Good aeration.
 
Nothing new was added right? Such as something that may have metal? Heavy metal poisoning does make fish gasp for air. 
 
 
I would do a gravel clean and get rid of as much waste as possible. 
I would do a 50% water change with dechlorinator.
Check over your heater to make sure you have the right condition.
Check that the surface has a lot of surface movement from air stones.
 
Tank is a 200L 100cm Fluval Roma
 
Ammonia is 0
Nitrite is 0
Nitrate is reading as undetectable (it's fairly well planted tank)
 
 
Water Hardness is 9 GH
Temperature is normally 24c but has been 27/28ish recently due to the british summer. I run airation from a spray bar and a 15 cm airstone on the bottom, so there's plenty of oxygen. I use dechlorinator (aquasafe). The tank has been up and running for 9 months and problems have only started in the last 2 weeks. The only change in the tank has been moving to an external filter, I rinsed all the new media before using it and all parts, I also moved across the media from my old filter, so i can't see that being the problem. Substrate is sand, and only 1-2cm deep. 
 
I'm incredibly confused with the situation...
 
Any chance you can get a PH reading please. What test kits are you using? Maybe get a LFS to do a test.

The symptoms sound like either heavy metals are effecting them. Have any lost colour? I think there is a disease beginning with c with the same symptoms if there is colour lost. I forgot the name now but will get back to you.

What filter did you have and now? What's the flow rate? Maybe open up and have a look inside just incase there's something inside that could pose a problem. That's the only thing that has changed. Was there carbon before and not now? Carbon can remove medicine and some good or bad stuff so that may be why your medicine isn't working.

I don't know what type of hardness matches your fish. Can someone, or yourself confirm that's okay? Sometimes over time fish get ill from water conditions that they aren't suited to such as hardness. It's not always instant.

In stumped but getting a LFS to do a full rest would be great. Checking over your filter too.
 
Unseen said:
Any chance you can get a PH reading please. What test kits are you using? Maybe get a LFS to do a test.

The symptoms sound like either heavy metals are effecting them. Have any lost colour? I think there is a disease beginning with c with the same symptoms if there is colour lost. I forgot the name now but will get back to you.

What filter did you have and now? What's the flow rate? Maybe open up and have a look inside just incase there's something inside that could pose a problem. That's the only thing that has changed. Was there carbon before and not now? Carbon can remove medicine and some good or bad stuff so that may be why your medicine isn't working.

I don't know what type of hardness matches your fish. Can someone, or yourself confirm that's okay? Sometimes over time fish get ill from water conditions that they aren't suited to such as hardness. It's not always instant.

In stumped but getting a LFS to do a full rest would be great. Checking over your filter too.
The Odessa barbs have completely lost their red stripe. Prime removes heavy metals, so I wouldn't expect it to be that. Tank pH is around 7.5. It is a carbon filter, but I removed the carbon during treatment. As far as I know none of my fish are particularly sensitive to hardness, it's not like I'm keeping wild angels or Rams. Old filter was a fluval u4 and the new one is an  all pond solutions external, which has been well reviewed in practical fishkeeping herehttp://www.allpondsolutions.co.uk/a...ers/aquarium-external-filter-1000-l-h.html%C2
 
Here is a map of my water quality from my company too.
 
http://www.stwater.co.uk/households/your-water-supply/water-quality-in-your-area/?postcode=CV3+5EQ
 
mrhidley said:
 
Any chance you can get a PH reading please. What test kits are you using? Maybe get a LFS to do a test.

The symptoms sound like either heavy metals are effecting them. Have any lost colour? I think there is a disease beginning with c with the same symptoms if there is colour lost. I forgot the name now but will get back to you.

What filter did you have and now? What's the flow rate? Maybe open up and have a look inside just incase there's something inside that could pose a problem. That's the only thing that has changed. Was there carbon before and not now? Carbon can remove medicine and some good or bad stuff so that may be why your medicine isn't working.

I don't know what type of hardness matches your fish. Can someone, or yourself confirm that's okay? Sometimes over time fish get ill from water conditions that they aren't suited to such as hardness. It's not always instant.

In stumped but getting a LFS to do a full rest would be great. Checking over your filter too.
The Odessa barbs have completely lost their red stripe. Prime removes heavy metals, so I wouldn't expect it to be that. Tank pH is around 7.5. It is a carbon filter, but I removed the carbon during treatment. As far as I know none of my fish are particularly sensitive to hardness, it's not like I'm keeping wild angels or Rams. Old filter was a fluval u4 and the new one is an  all pond solutions external, which has been well reviewed in practical fishkeeping here
 
Here is a map of my water quality from my company too.
 
http://www.stwater.co.uk/households/your-water-supply/water-quality-in-your-area/?postcode=CV3+5EQ
 
 
I wonder if a slightly lower PH would help the Barb's? 
 
I am stomped! Did you have full water readings prior to the change in filter? I am going to guess that something has changed since the new filter, but what is the bloody mystery lol. 
 
Would you say they have gone grey/blue-ish too? I suspected this but may be way off. I am not suggesting you are overcrowded BTW. 
 
Chilodonella
S: The body and gills lose color and become gray-blue in color. Fish swim erratically and rub against objects.
A: A malachite green-formalin combination works well as does a short (30 min) salt bath followed by a 12 hour Trypaflavine bath. This disease is most prevalent in overcrowded tanks and is most easily prevented by maintaining an appropriately stocked tank.
Read more athttp://fish.mongabay.com/diseases.htm#rMcKmPr7udpJQzDy.99
Please get a LFS to do a test on your water just incase there's something wrong with your test kit. You never know since we are this stomped!
 
I wouldnt trust the LFS to do tests. They use strips most of the time.
 
Are there any chemicals you spray around your house?
 

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