New Nano Tank

Bad news this morning. One of the otos jumped out and to make things worst I actually stepped on the poor thing when I walked over to the tank to dose ferts.

2 otos, 7 shrimps and 3 tetras left. Survival of the fittest innit?
 
None of the 'complete' ferts really contain enough P or N, so unless you have plenty of these in your tap water you'll probably need to add some extra just to be safe.

I've used flourish with shrimp no problems so I wouldn't worry :)

I've never used the ADA ferts, to expensive more than anything! So I can really comment on which you need to use. I do know that EI works and is cheap. The plants love it. I also find EI is flexible enough to be able to double dose if I'm away for a few days.

Don't know if that's a help or not though!

Sam
 
So right now I should dose NO3 to the max ppm that would tolerated by the shrimps. :) Sounds simple enough.

I'm beginning to understand why HG is sometimes called a weed. It's already spreading though into the gaps into the HC's area. I need the HC to grow in so it can rightfully claim its patch of substrate surface!

Show me the magic! NO3 is the answer?
 
I wouldn't dose the NO3 to the tolerated level of the shrimp but 20ppm every two days should be about right. You can mess with the exact level once the HC gets going.

Sam
 
I'm gonna stick with the ADA series this time. Going to get the Brighty Lights today and try it and OD that for a week. See how the addition of P and N fares out. A bit excited about that! Also gonna get a small clip on fan.

Sorry haven't had time to post pictures recenty, been a bit stressed out at work, especially with the financial crisis of recent. Need to watch our backs here in Asia.

Quick question. If there are no algae visible, would I still need to do weekly WCs? I've ben reading about different schools of thought regarding having too frequent WCs being counterproductive in a lean water column, since I'm not doing EI. IS this an accurate assumption?
 
water changes reduce nitrate, stabilise the water (ph/ kh), brings nutrients back down to a suitable level (EI dosing mainly), remove algae spores, remove ammonia.

if everything is ok then you can do less frequent w/c. i try to do weekly but sometimes i cant be bothered so i do 2 or even 3 weeks sometimes!

I dose TPN+ daily.
 
Day 27 !!

Been a while since I posted pictures. However, I'm sure you guys would be as disappointed as I am, as there hasn't been much growth among the HC!

Just got a bottle of ADA BRIGHTY LIGHTS just now (TPN+ costs more aaron haha!), as well as a small clip on fan. as well as some other low-light plants. Had promised my gf that I'll help her rescape our (well, her) tank as well. Came home excited (have been away for 2 days), and the substrate at the front of the tank have all been messed up and move all over! Must have been the otos again. HC at the front have been uprooted obviously, so had a very nice time replanting those one by one. It seems that the sparsity of the plantlets are making the the empty substrate too exposed for disturbance. So I made a decision I'm rather ashamed of... I went out to get another pot of HC. :blush: Had wanted to the HC to carpet by itself, but I think the constant disturbance of the exposed substrate is working against the HC. So maybe having more plantlets in a denser pattern would remedy this. Also stop the substrate from being messed up and moving forward. Would be planting tomorrow during the WC. Standby for update pics tomorrow!

Well did a quick check on the tank. Drop checker bluish green. Time to change the yeast concoction. Water temp is 30C. Clipped the fan on the rear of the tank and plugged it into the timer with the lights. After 30 minutes tank temp was 27C.

Then dosed 2ml of BRIGHTY LIGHTS. First time I dosed anything with P and N into the tank. Dosing regime would be 1ml BRIGHTY LIGHTS every 2 days, 1ml BRIGHTY K everyday, and 1ml EXCEL every WC, which would be a weekly 30% WC in the weekend.

Noticed some green algae growth on my diffuser and the rocks! Must have been the 6 days of no WC, which is the longest I've left it since this tank began. I don't know why but I was rather happy about this! Any change in the tank after so many days of no-change has been rather taxing. At least the otos and shrimps have something else to munch on. Not too worried this, as I can easily just go back to my old routine to clear it up if I wanted to. Right now more focused on getting the HC to grow!

One more dead shrimp. Meaning 6 shrimps, 2 otos and 3 tetras now residing in the tank.

The scape at Day 27.
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Notice the algae growth on the diffuser and rocks.
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Juncus repens growing steadily, as well as the HG. Sending runners all over the place and thickening up nicely!
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New clip on fan.
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The arsenal of ADA ferts.
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Tada!
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And here is the other tank after I finished it it about an hour ago. Moved the striped nerite snails here as one died. Must have been the lack of algae and acidic conditions.
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All low light plants (its only got 8W over this 3.5G). Subtrate is a mixture of gravel and GEX iron rich clay soil. Put in some spare dirftwood from my previous tank, tied some string moss on it. Also tied some leftover moss on rocks to steady the driftwood at the base. Anubias nana petite wedged between the rocks and driftwood. Micro swords line the edge of the driftwood, and some dwarf HG in the empty foreground patch on the right side. I'm not sure what the plant on the left is... Chilensis ? Anyone can ID that? The cabomba was from the tank originally. Trimmed it down to hug the driftwood. Would be dosing ferts once a week for this low tech tank. Hopefuly the plants would grow in nicely. Did the plants I choose do properly in this low tech low maintainance tank?

Anyways, hope the HC would benefit from this injection of P and N. Would do a WC tomorrow and plant some more HC in. Stay tuned!
 
try planting the HC 1 stem at a time, you will achive a much better carpet, painful yes, i did it and my carpet is great, worth every hour of it lol!
 
Yes that is the plan aaron. :) Looking forward to an afternoon of backache.
 
Day 29!!

Didn't managed to work on the tank yesterday, so was looking forward to it today.

Came home from work at 7.45pm, and proceeded to work on the pot of HC I left in a plastic container yesterday, breaking them into small pieces. The lights don't come on until 8pm, so I just ignored the tank, as nothing much has happened to it for the past 2 weeks.

Then, taking the plantlets of HC to the tank, I sat down and like clockwork the lights flashed on. To my horror, this is what I saw:

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White gunk all over the tank, and a thick layer of it on the surface of the water. It had an oily sheen to it, reflecting the lights in a colourful spectrum like oil would. Immediately I jumped into action and did a 50% WC, sucking as much as the gunk as possible. THis after 2 days of dosing P and N? What is this stuff? It looks like the white cotton growth from before. There was no visible algae for 2 weeks, and sudenly the whole tank was covered in white growth? I'm intrigued! What happened? Can anyone hypothesize on this?

Anyways, I trimmed the HG again to a uniform level. It's looking very good right now, thickening up nicely. I can understand why we have to trim the HG regularly now. Juncus repens is going strong with a new bushy habit happening, and the mini taiwan moss is perking upwards from the driftwod in the manner that I hoped it would be. I then remembered Sam's comment on the anubias getting lost in the scape, so I moved one of the rhizomes to a higher point on the scape so it won't get buried when the HC fills in.

Then I proceeded with the planting of more HC! Cloudy water from uprooting of HC.

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As I proceeded to level out the substrate and move (with a spoon) some of it back to the rear of the tank (as lots has naturally eroded to the front), I finally found out why the HC have shown such little progress. Its because they have all grown UNDER THE SUBSTRATE! I can only imagine what has happened! The otos have ben playing with the substrate and in the process BURIED ALL NEW GROWTH. That is why the HC seem to be growing so slowly. I was so surprised to pull out a entire square inch of healthy HC growth with LONG AS roots from about below 1/2" of ADA AS!

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So looks like the otos cannot stay in this tank for now. I had to move them to the other tank.

With the otos out ot the way, I then planted long stems of HC into the newly leveled subtrate. When I was done there was still about half a pot left haha. I've put these back into the plastic container, in case of any HC melt in the next week. Will be watching diligently.

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Note how the old HC is a darker green than the newer, lighter green HC. P and N deficiency? Gurus, advise! :)

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When that was all done, refilled the water. Dosed 3ml BRIGHTY K, 2ml BRIGHTY LIGHTS, 3 drops of GREEN GAIN and 2ml of EXCEL. Treating this as a interm restarting of the tank.

Water cleared after an hour, so I cleaned out the filter sponge and floss. Green algae growing on the bio rings, shoul I leave that so or clean them? Oh, one dead shrimp. Must have been recent as it was still fully intact ie. not made into a meal. But guess what? FOUND ONE BABY SHRIMP! Now a litle worried I might have sucked up some with the siphon... Would put a sock over the inlet next time.

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So residents are now 5 adult RCS, not sure how many baby RCS, an 3 tetras. Might want to replaced the tetras with something smaller. Any suggestions?

Will be monitoring progress in the next week. Scheduled WC in 4 days. Hopefully with this the tank would finally be what I hoped it would be. :)

Any advice on what I should watch out for for now guys?
 
the moss is looking fab :)

micro rasboras are nice fish.

Nitrogen defficiency causes yellow leaves so that should explain the HC colour.

You have surface scum, can be caused by low CO2 & nutrients. Plants & fish food can also release proteins which cause this. An easy was to remove it is to create more surface agitation, but this means you need to inject more CO2.
 
Hi aaron! Yeah I love the look of the moss, it fans outwards and up, and the foliage is so tiny. To get this effect one cannot be too lazy in tying the moss to the driftwood/rock/ornament.

Well hopefully the dosing of P & N would help with bringing out the best of the HC. Fingers crossed!

Surface scum aye? Would I need a surface skimmer? Or anyone have any DIY solutions for my HOB? :)
 
DAY 31!

After 4 days of 1ml ADA BRIGHTY LIGHTS and 1ml BRIGHTY K daily...

Green spot algae! Need the nerite snails back in that tank!

HC going strong, no melting yet. HG going crazy,the plastic dividers are not stopping the runners from clambering into the HC's area. Hmm... Moss looks awesome, Anubias nana healthy, and the juncus repens is sprouting so many nodes. I cut off three and replanted it in the other fish tank.

I took a spare 1 gallon tank and poured the rest of the bag of ADA AS into it and saturated it with ADA Brighty LIGHTS and old tank water. Then planted the other half pot of HC in it. Trying the emersed method for fun.
 
DAY 35!

Another dead shrimp. Sigh... did a 30% WC today. HC finally settling in and showing visible progress! Woohoo! Looks like dosing P & N was all it needed! Thanks aaron and sam for all the advice! :)

Pics update!

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Algae on tank glass. Small price to pay for HC growth!
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Tank in situ. What I see when I come home every night.
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Closeup of HC. Growing steadily!
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Lovely moss.
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Anubias growing as well!
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One of the 5 survivors.
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Having a snack outside its moss home.
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Looking forward to nice carpet before putting the otos back in for their algae buffet.

Question. Should I change the photoperiod from the 7hours on-5 hours off-7h on-5h off siesta to a 10 hour straight photoperiod? Would that be better for the plants? And would doing so stress the plants and be counter productive? Please advice! Thanks.
 

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