Llj's Ada Tank "refugees From Endor"

[mark4785]

I think BGA has nothing to do with how dense or not dense you plant.

So in theory the way in which the plant looks in it's 'Tropica pot' is the way in which it could be kept when planted in the aquarium, and there would be no BGA issues providing the right maintenance is carried out?

I was made to believe differently by another TFF member so I've now got a bit of a dilemma on my hands; I was more or less told I hadn't planted my strands of Limnophila Sessiflora properly in that they were too close together. The bottom parts of them started to look degraded and I think the TFF member thought that the T5 lighting wasn't getting to all of the leaves adequately due to them being so closely packed together. Turns out that they still degrade now even though they aren't clumped together, albeit not so badly.

You can't see the substrate where the marsilea is, yet no BGA.

Presumably that would be a spot where dirt builds up if you don't syphon and do W/C's so frequently which would then result in BGA?

Mark, the plant was labeled as Cryptocoryne spiralis at the local pet store where I got it

Thank you for ID'ing the plant.

Is this help at all?

It definitely is. You don't know how much your input helps, especially for someone who is so close to giving up planted tanks!

 

[lljdma06]

I think BGA has nothing to do with how dense or not dense you plant.

So in theory the way in which the plant looks in it's 'Tropica pot' is the way in which it could be kept when planted in the aquarium, and there would be no BGA issues providing the right maintenance is carried out?

I was made to believe differently by another TFF member so I've now got a bit of a dilemma on my hands; I was more or less told I hadn't planted my strands of Limnophila Sessiflora properly in that they were too close together. The bottom parts of them started to look degraded and I think the TFF member thought that the T5 lighting wasn't getting to all of the leaves adequately due to them being so closely packed together. Turns out that they still degrade now even though they aren't clumped together, albeit not so badly.

This, IMO, is a case by case thing. Some plants can be compacted more than others. Stemplants seem to need a bit more space initially, at least I have found this to be the case, but once they established, they could be compacted as well, though to a lesser extent. Crypts can really be compacted. The TFF member who gave that information isn't incorrect. Overcompaction in stems can cause the bottom portions of the stems to rot, as they are not receiving adaquate circulation, but a crypt is not a stemplant. I would plant my stems side by side, but really close to each other, almost touching. If that helps any?

You can't see the substrate where the marsilea is, yet no BGA.

Presumably that would be a spot where dirt builds up if you don't syphon and do W/C's so frequently which would then result in BGA?

Yes, but if you do waterchanges and syphon delicately (small tube and swirl gently as you would do a sand substrate) you can prevent much of this build up. I kind of like my tanks to look very clean. LOLOL

Mark, the plant was labeled as Cryptocoryne spiralis at the local pet store where I got it

Thank you for ID'ing the plant.

Is this help at all?

It definitely is. You don't know how much your input helps, especially for someone who is so close to giving up planted tanks!

No, don't give up on planted tanks. From what I've seen, you need more plants in your system and you need to double check that your CO2 is going everywhere in your tank. Extra waterchanges would help too. You have reduced the photoperiod, yes? SuperColey1 laughs at me a bit, because I'll start off with very low photoperiods initially. Refugees is still only at around 6 hours, but with the high light and lack of CO2, I don't anticipate going much higher than that. The tank with CO2 injection pictured above started with 4 hours. Endor got up to 8 hours.

Liz

 

[lljdma06]

Ok, did some work today. Removed the moss wall for a trim and to re-attach the moss. May also have to re-attach moss on one piece of wood, but that may be more of a hassle than it's worth. That wood is a pain to move. We'll see. Followed it up with a 60% waterchange & a good clean of the filter media. Moss is in a bucket & I'll redo the wall tomorrow. Bolbitis needs a trim too. Sheesh, there's a lot of plant in this tank. Sags look great & crypts are tall enough in the back that I'll need only about half the wall I made the first time. Will post iPhone pix of the "mosswallless" tank after dinner.

Liz

 

[lljdma06]

Some pix of the maintenance... When I redo the wall, will post pix & perhaps take a video of the construction process.

Full tank shot, sponges keep the filters erect, increases flow. The last two pictures are views from the back of the tank.

Crypts, view from the side...

C. spiralis. Very dense...

Sags, doing really well. I like this plant. From the AGA auction.

 

[ian]

I like that! I actually prefer the scape without the moss wall, it really looks stunning!

 

[lljdma06]

I like that! I actually prefer the scape without the moss wall, it really looks stunning!

Ewwww! I like it with the moss. Looks naked to me now. And the light sponges in the back do not help. Icky, icky, icky... Cannot wait to get the moss back up.

Liz

 

[PDSimon]

I prefer it with the moss too

 

[lljdma06]

I prefer it with the moss too

Nice to know someone besides me has taste in this section. LOLOLOL

Guys, I'm sooooooooooo lazy. I've yet to put up the dumb wall. Moss's been sitting in a bucket for over a week. It's fine, but I really need to do the wall soon.

Motivate me, please...

Liz

 

[ian]

*put the wall back*


Seriously, i prefer it without, get some more pics with it not in the tank.

 

[lljdma06]

*put the wall back*


Seriously, i prefer it without, get some more pics with it not in the tank.

You're not helping...

 

[PDSimon]

What are we meant to do if you don't have the motivation to put a moss wall up

 

[lljdma06]

What are we meant to do if you don't have the motivation to put a moss wall up

Awwww... OK for the benefit of our planted section, I shall motivate myself. I'm just so tired and busy.

Anybody live in the US and want a bunch of weeping moss?

Liz

 

[Biulu]

Awwww... OK for the benefit of our planted section, I shall motivate myself. I'm just so tired and busy.

Anybody live in the US and want a bunch of weeping moss?

Liz

Is Montreal, Canada close enough? I would love it....

 

[This Old Spouse]

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<br />What are we meant to do if you don't have the motivation to put a moss wall up <img src='http/www.fishforums.net/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /><br />

<br /><br />Awwww... OK for the benefit of our planted section, I shall motivate myself.  I'm just so tired and busy.  <br /><br />Anybody live in the US and want a bunch of weeping moss?  <img src='http/www.fishforums.net/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /><br /><br />Liz<br />

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I'd love it too ... in Minnesota!

 

[JenCliBee]

No... moss wall all the way... come on you know you want to put it back