Large Empty Tank And Thinking Of Oscars.....

[england]

Fine, he was really hurt by that.....bless him....

"ok fist do your work...dont hold back, except for legal breaks"

Have you ever seen Paratilapia polleni

 

[mattlee]

Fine, he was really hurt by that.....bless him....

"ok fist do your work...dont hold back, except for legal breaks"

i do appologise to your choc, i hope he doesnt take it too personally..... if it softens the blow he does look a very healthy choc

 

[england]

Lol, each to there own mate, i just happen to love how peaceful he is and how he changes colour every time you look at him,like a chamelion....

Jaguar cichlids are stunning if you want something beautiful like my old brutis
http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/212788-jaguar-cichlid/

 

[mattlee]

Lol, each to there own mate, i just happen to love how peaceful he is and how he changes colour every time you look at him,like a chamelion....

Jaguar cichlids are stunning if you want something beautiful like my old brutis
http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/212788-jaguar-cichlid/

now thats more like it. but too aggressive for what im thinking did it live in peace with the oscars?

 

[england]

no he owned the tank after 1.5yrs...

not alot really maybe tbar cichlids/some earth eaters...

 

[mattlee]

would a single Flagtail Prochilodus be ok in this kind of set up?

 

[Flagtail]

ok how does this sound.....

2 x oscars or other cichlids
1 x BGK
2 x sun catfish
1 x pleco
6 x silverdollars or other dithers of a large size

im getting so many mixed reviews about mixing cichlids and i dont really want to be removing fish and replacing etc etc etc so im happy to go for a peacefull set up (hopefully). the tank will have sand substrate, rocks with plenty of bogwood and depending on the dithers some plants (unless i go for silverdollars). i dont want the tank full of fish but at the same time i dont want it to look empty. would these fish live in peace? ish.....

Sounds good... you should get a clown knife insted of the bgk. They will be more active and can handle an oscar or 2 better. Have you thought flagtail prochiodulis?

would a single Flagtail Prochilodus be ok in this kind of set up?

Yeah it will be fine.

 

[england]

A wee video for you to get a idea,but as you dont like chocs..hehe
http/s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn105/wiltsanddorset/?action=view&current=chocolatebrown002.flv

 

[mattlee]

1 x oscar
1 x red spotted severum
1 x frontosa cichlid
1 x flagtail prochiodulis
1 x BGK
2 x sun catfish (already got these)
1 x pleco (not decided which one yet)
1 x EBJD
1 x Nicaraguense

this list is getting bigger and bigger by the minute is this too much? if so which should go?

 

[england]

Its getting bigger, build it up slowly,garenteed you will change it... look at my video link, rem that was 5/2/2

 

[mattlee]

Its getting bigger, build it up slowly,garenteed you will change it... look at my video link, rem that was 5/2/2

when you see the fish as big as they are in your 5/2/2 you realise that the tanks of these size become very small all of a sudden.... mines slightly bigger but not that much!
looking at yours i think i counted about 8 big fish and a smaller cat, is that about right?
my list already has 10 big fish i need to lose at least 2 i think...... im scrapping the idea of dithers (i think....) but i like them all

 

[Wills]

Just a thought but Ive been talking to someone else about maybe doing this in my tank but it would look awesome in your tank just as well if not better due to the extra room.

So here it is, a mid sized Centrals tank. It would be all rare cichlids but all would be highly interactive and have fantastic markings and colours but they are all chosen due to their smaller stature

So thats things like most of the Theraps Genus I love Theraps Coeruleus and Theraps Lentiginosus both get to between 6-8 inches and look like veijas/paratheps but with less aggression from what Ive been told these are on a par with firemouths and the like. So thats where my idea comes from mixing some of these mini giants with the more common Centrals like firemouths and ellioti to get this stunning mix of the more interactive species and still get the colour and a lot of the smaller CA cichlids have truly amazing breeding behaviour though perhaps in a community thats not the best choice. So a list of the species I have been looking at -

Also just a brief disclamer before I give this google list, this is just based on size and brief descriptions I have read relating to their levels of aggression, it is by far an ongoing research thing Im doing. Im not sure on easy they will be to find either - but equally any info on these for me would be interesting. And lastly this is a list based on fish I have seen and liked hence why Im suggesting them there may be other similar examples others know of

Amphilophus Amarillo
Amphilophus Diquis
Amphilophus Hogaboomorum
Amphilophus Lonimanus
Archocentrus Centrarchus
Cichlasoma Salvini
Cryptoheros Nanoluteus
Cryptoheros sp. Honduran Red Point - and yes I know the cryptoheros name is no longer valid
"-----"-----" Sajica
"-----"-----" Spilurus
Hypsophrys Nicaraguensis - like in my pic yes thats a female a good male pic is in Davos pic
Neetroplus Nematopus
Theraps Coeruleus
Theraps Lentiginosus
Thorichtys - Aureus, Ellioti, Socolofi, Pasionis or one of the nice sp. species that are sometimes available

So those are the ones for the mini centrals idea list like I say Im not fully researched on these yet but most of the species (basically all but most of the Ampilophus) I would be okay to suggest some kind of mix not sure how though.

If you were going for South Americans thats an other story, Geophagus Alitfrons, Satanoperca Auticeps and Lillith, Uaru Fernandexyepezi, Heros sp. Rotkiel, Heros Apendicious, Heros Severus, Krobia sp. Rio Xingu, Hoplarchus Psittacus, Bujurquina Vittata, Cichlasoma Boliviense, Laetacara Thayeri, Tahuantinsuyoa Macantzata (inca stone fish) a few angel fish or some festivum plus headstanders, gars, lima catfish, pictus, duckbilled knife fish, black ghost knife, Royal Plecs, Whiptail Plecs

yeah those should confuse you a bit more happy googling also a good site for profiles if you dont already know it seriously fish.com and also tropical fish finder is good for profiles.

Wills

 

[Verminator89]

1 x oscar
1 x red spotted severum
1 x frontosa cichlid
1 x flagtail prochiodulis
1 x BGK
2 x sun catfish (already got these)
1 x pleco (not decided which one yet)
1 x EBJD
1 x Nicaraguense

this list is getting bigger and bigger by the minute is this too much? if so which should go?

I'd be concerned that this list is becomming a big mish-mash of all sorts. Don't get me wrong its each to their own opinion on what they like/dislike, but personally for me i think less is more.

I'd be concerned adding an Electric Blue Jack Dempsey into a tank with those other cichlids. I know they say Dempseys are "aggressive", but they really arent in comparison with most other "aggressive" cichlids. Also i want to put it down on record that the Electric Blue variant of the Dempsey is less aggressive than the regular strain of Dempsey. A normal Jack i would have thought would be ok, could even be top of the tank in the pecking order. However my 8" male EBJD gets nipped by a 12 month old Angel from time to time in my tank. Cichlids have different personalities, its a known fact, however i wouldnt say mine is a complete push over, and that gives me reason to believe an EBJD would in general be a casualty in a tank with other cichlids.

In saying that to contradict myself it could work out in a tank as big as yours, however i'd bear it in mind. Just be wary with the EBJD, its alot of money for a small fish that may not flourish in such a tank. If you really like the idea of a Jack, go with the standard one.

I havnt even mentioned the health problems with EB Jacks, food for thought.

 

[mattlee]

just as i thought i was getting somewhere.......... cheers mate ill take a look at some of those

 

[BackToTheFishes]

Just be wary with the EBJD, its alot of money for a small fish

Are these meant to be expensive?My lfs had these in a few weeks ago for 8 quid each,about 2"