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[wuvmybetta]

Mine have been bbs-less for a day and a half now, my last 2 batches went down the crapper and I don't know why. But I noticed after I added more salt, I got a very low hatch rate but at least some hatched. Try leaving the light on them for awhile too.

As for your new spawn, just stay on top of them. How high is your air? I noticed with this spawn,that I had my air really low, I couldn't figure out why my bbs was dying within an hour of going in the tank. It finally dawned on me last night that I had too little aeration for so many fish. I've noticed a huge increase in activity since I up-ed it.

2 mw cultures died? No more vitamins in them then, that must be it.

 

[cutecotton]

well i have a sponge filter in there that blows about 5 bubbles or so per escond, tis' going pretty fast, if necessary i woudltn' hesitate to add an airstone in there, but i thought the sponge filter might be enough

as for the bbs, it is still driving me crazy! (ona second thought i will add an airstone to the tank), this is my 2nd batch (the first one went down the crappers, none of it would hatch after way over 48 hours, so i threwit out).

this batch has been in there for about 24 ours now...i ntoice a few are hatching, but i see dead bbs everywhere they hatched, but they are now dead i have an air stone running very high in there, and i didn't add any salt or anything.

as for the mw culture..yeah it looks like the worms died in a blaze of glory, they all came up last night, so i fed them all, and then today..voila not a single one. the other culture died becuase i tried to use the paper towel method and it all dried up

anwyays sorry wuv i am hijkacing your thread i just wanted to say that i do see a hint of DT in that pic of the fry and imo it looks really cute plakat DTs! wuv what are you going to think of next

 

[shrks1fan]

well i have a sponge filter in there that blows about 5 bubbles or so per escond, tis' going pretty fast, if necessary i woudltn' hesitate to add an airstone in there, but i thought the sponge filter might be enough

as for the bbs, it is still driving me crazy! (ona second thought i will add an airstone to the tank), this is my 2nd batch (the first one went down the crappers, none of it would hatch after way over 48 hours, so i threwit out).

this batch has been in there for about 24 ours now...i ntoice a few are hatching, but i see dead bbs everywhere they hatched, but they are now dead i have an air stone running very high in there, and i didn't add any salt or anything.

as for the mw culture..yeah it looks like the worms died in a blaze of glory, they all came up last night, so i fed them all, and then today..voila not a single one. the other culture died becuase i tried to use the paper towel method and it all dried up

anwyays sorry wuv i am hijkacing your thread i just wanted to say that i do see a hint of DT in that pic of the fry and imo it looks really cute plakat DTs! wuv what are you going to think of next

I'm confused CC, are you saying you didn't add any salt to your BBS hatchery? If so, then that would explain why they aren't hatching, and the few that do are dieing right away, they need very salty water. But maybe I just misunderstood your post?

Linda

 

[cutecotton]

no, you didn't read it wrong, and i dind't type it wrong either i dont' add any salt to any of my hatcheries becuase the only time i did none would hatch either!

if so, how much salt do i have to add. I have a 1.5G container, and i put about 1/4 teaspoon of decapped eggs in it...so how much slat should i be adding? why is bbs so difficult

 

[wuvmybetta]

I use plain old canning salt. It's much cheaper and more effective than aquarium salt. I put 2/3 cup in a gallon of dechlorinated water.

I've heard of the no salt method. I think rolln hatches his that way too.

plakat DTs! wuv what are you going to think of next

I wish I could take credit, it's merely a fluke.

 

[shrks1fan]

no, you didn't read it wrong, and i dind't type it wrong either i dont' add any salt to any of my hatcheries becuase the only time i did none would hatch either!

if so, how much salt do i have to add. I have a 1.5G container, and i put about 1/4 teaspoon of decapped eggs in it...so how much slat should i be adding? why is bbs so difficult

Well I put 1 pint of water in my hatchery (a plastic 2L bottle with the bottom cut off) and I add 2 Teaspoons of salt, when I used less I got a horrible hatch rate. I think that is your problem, no salt, they're Brine Shrimp, Brine means salty (not an exact definition, Lol), they need salt to hatch and definetly to survive. If you're using 1.5 gallons of water, you will obviously need more salt, whatever the equivalent would be. (although I don't think you need that much water for the amount of eggs your are hatching, I also put 1/4 tsp of eggs in that 1 pint of water).

Linda

 

[cutecotton]

hmm thanks, that might explain my serie sof bad luck with my bbs

i know i probably dont' need that much water, but i heard that if you have too much eggs in too little water you wouldnt' get a good hatch rate either because the eggs discharge something that would prevent others from hatching ors omething like that

let me do the conversion...my hatchery has been aerated for 48 hours now, do you think it's too late to add the salt? btw, you do had aquarium salt right? i fi add salt right now do you think they'll still have a chance or do i have to start all over again

also, do you decap your eggs?

 

[cutecotton]

i just did the conversion..it looks like i need to add 5.5 teaspoons for 1.5G

i assume your bottle is 2L, and you said you added 2 teaspons for it, and i converted and it said that 1.5G is 5.67L, which means i need about 5.5 teaspoons..

wow that's a lot of salt!

 

[shrks1fan]

hmm thanks, that might explain my serie sof bad luck with my bbs

i know i probably dont' need that much water, but i heard that if you have too much eggs in too little water you wouldnt' get a good hatch rate either because the eggs discharge something that would prevent others from hatching ors omething like that

let me do the conversion...my hatchery has been aerated for 48 hours now, do you think it's too late to add the salt? btw, you do had aquarium salt right? i fi add salt right now do you think they'll still have a chance or do i have to start all over again

also, do you decap your eggs?

I get an excellent hatchrate with the pint of water, but more water I'm sure doesn't hurt either.

I'm not sure if adding salt now would work or not...personally I'd just start fresh, get them things hatched, hehe.

I use Kosher salt from the grocery store, it's cheaper than aquarium salt. Rock salt works also.

I don't decapsulate...I tried it a couple of times and it was too much of a pain in the neck, it just wasn't worth the hastle, and then I had a horrible hatchrate (I may not have done it perfectly right). It takes me a minute at most to setup my hatchery each day.

Linda

 

[shrks1fan]

i just did the conversion..it looks like i need to add 5.5 teaspoons for 1.5G

i assume your bottle is 2L, and you said you added 2 teaspons for it, and i converted and it said that 1.5G is 5.67L, which means i need about 5.5 teaspoons..

wow that's a lot of salt!

yea, that's why I go with as little water as possible, less water means less salt needed which means less cost, haha.

Linda

 

[wuvmybetta]

i heard that if you have too much eggs in too little water you wouldnt' get a good hatch rate either because the eggs discharge something that would prevent others from hatching ors omething like that

That makes sense. I think that's what happened to mine the past couple of days. I was trying to hatch more to feed more mouths than usual

 

[shrks1fan]

i heard that if you have too much eggs in too little water you wouldnt' get a good hatch rate either because the eggs discharge something that would prevent others from hatching ors omething like that

That makes sense. I think that's what happened to mine the past couple of days. I was trying to hatch more to feed more mouths than usual

Hmm, I'll have to remember that if I ever go with more eggs than I normally use.

Linda

 

[cutecotton]

alrighty...let me pour this batch out *sigh* damnit this is the 2nd time and i NEED hte bbs (my mw cultures just crashed on me, so fry are hungry = me stressed).

anyways..dont't hink i have a spare 2L bottle around...sure wish i did now!

okay, how does this fourmal sound:

5.6L container
5.5 teaspons of salt
1.5 teaspoons of eggs

obviously aerated, i won't boether with decapping this time. Also a problem i ntoice is that most of hte eggs end up stikcing to the side of hte coantiner rather than being constantly moved around. I mean some are but most end up sticking on the sides i always have to swipe them off and put them back in the container

Btw, how do you harvest them? i have the most unefficient way of doing. I shine a light down at the container, so all the shrimp gathers in one place and then i have to suck them up using a syringe it takes forever and i always end up getting some eggs with me

p.s since i dont' have that kind of slat you're talking about...would aqarium salt or table salt be better?

 

[wuvmybetta]

I get an empty cup and sit a coffee filter on top,then use a turkey baster to gather those who are at the light.

It's called canning salt or brine salt,cc. You can get it at a grocery store right by the other salts, Usually in a big box. I dunno about table salt,I've never tried it.I suppose if it's iodine free you could try it.

 

[cutecotton]

I get an empty cup and sit a coffee filter on top,then use a turkey baster to gather those who are at the light.

hmm that's what i usually do too...darn these litlte things to death