you wouldn't put fry in a 1 litre? guess you have never bred bettas as that is a generous amount of space for a fry (by the way, no one who knows what they are doing would keep "fry" in a jar, they should be in a grow out tank for the first few 2 months anyways)Nidge said:Sorry lads but i think thats cruel, those jars are tiny, i wouldn't put fry in them.
Do you leave the lamps on all night? otherwise the water would get cold especially in the winter
No, I have never bred Bettas. When i said "i wouldn't put fry in a 1 litre" It was an example of how little space i think them Bettas have, I would never put any fish, fry or adult into a jar (unless it was a huge jar) with inadequate filtration, heat, space and shelter, I think its cruel and very selfish to be honest.bkk_group said:
i know that woman personally. she uses the same barracks setup as other well known betta breeders in these parts, her bettas are always in good health by the way. the barracks are all hooked up to water system and are constantly getting fresh water dripped into the tanks.JobySp said:ok guys - look at this pic...
Those jars in the background have less space than psgills and these breed them for a living and sell them out of their shop like this.
you wanna see how badly bettas can be kept - go to BAS in Bolton... they have a tenth of the space psgill is supplying.
if his bettas are healthy he doesn't need people jumping down his throats telling him it's wrong...
they are sold in polystyrene cups for gods sake, and people keep them in tiny little vases.
those jars seem just fine.
as someone who breeds bettas i will tell you that while it would be nice to have a 1 gallon tank for every single fish in a spawn the reality is that it's just not feasable when you might have upwards to 100+ per spawn. we do use filters but only in our grow out tanks and our breeding tank. we use a number of 1 litre and 1 1/2 litre glass jars for our juvenile 3+ month fish and they thrive in that enviroment because we do the water changes required on a regular basis. (all our jars get complete water changes every three days so water deteriation is not an issue ever.) while we would not consider housing a "pet" betta in a 1 litre jar forever we have no problem keeping fish we plan to either give away or sell in them short term. none of our tanks are heated ever yet our water temps range between 78 - 80. we monitor our fish on a daily basis and take pride in the fact that we breed healthy energetic fish.Nidge said:
First off I never said the need 3 gallon tanks. if anyone uses the excuse that they can't give their fish (whatever it may be) a proper home because they have "so many", then they should seriously consider giving them to people who can give them what they need. I had to give my dog away recently because I couldn't give him all the attention that he needed and because he kept getting in fights with my airdale. I think it would've been very selfish of me to keep just because I liked him. I reallized that if I really loved the dog I would give him to a good home instead of keep him. I've been to many dog breeders houses and notice that some of them don't care for there dog's very well at all. so just because someone has a bunch of bettas and breeds them doesn't mean that they take good care of them. I'm not saying that everyone should give their bettas a deluxe suite penthouse like I did (although that would be nice). but I'm saying that you should give your betta at least an adequate home with all the neccessities.
