Hmmmm.....

[tetraman]

My opinion is that you shouldn't get common plecs. They just stay suction-cupped to your aquarium window all day and take up a ton of space.

 

[LisaLQ]

Aw that's a bit unfair! In a nice big tank, they make lovely fish - with great personalities. The reason you see them stuck to the side of the tank all day in folks fish tanks is because they're usually housed in tanks way too small for them, filled with ornaments that they cant manouvre round!

 

[tetraman]

I have actually grown to love mine.

 

[mitmop]

Aww I have a plec called normam and we have had him for about 8 years hes about 12 inch. he doesnt spend any time on the glass he just swimms around the tank with the catfish..dives for his cucumber when its feeding time....

mitmop

I have actually grown to love mine.

 

[tetraman]

I don't know what the #@$% I'm going to do when he gets that big. I'm posting some pics of my tank and fish later today.

 

[PlecMama]

They hang on the side and take up space?

Commons are like poodles, some people love them, some people hate them. I personally can't stand poodles, I see no redeeming features, but I love commons.

When Nessie is laying on the gravel peering out, if you get up close to the glass, she will move one way and cast a beedy over you, then turn the other way and cast the other. I wonder what kind of strange creatures we all look like to them.

 

[tetraman]

I like them, but they aren't worth 100 gallons of tank space. That could easily hold 100 neon tetras. Think about that. My pleco recently got orange fins, too. I think it's a sign of health, as mine is clearly the healthiest it's ever been.

 

[LisaLQ]

Yeah, but how boring are neons?

 

[tetraman]

Not at all boring. They actually slep at night. Ok, then 100 zebra danios. 2 oscars. 50 platies. The list goes on.

 

[Gankutsuou]

on a second note, the orange actually seems to be something that happened in the large farm breeding.
Some kind of gene that accidentally got mixxed in and can be seen in about 12.5% of plecos or something like that.

 

[PaPeRo]

I understand stunting, just it's not proved that a fishes insides can grow when their outsides don't, from stunting.

Yeah never heard of that either.

BTW Gankutsuou don't mind Boxermom, I had a run into her at another forum and she claims without any evidence that I lied about sucessfully keeping many types of fish of which are small in a 30 gallon tank.

She has this big issue with people "overstocking" tanks even though she doesn't have any proof but merely opinion. She often likes to make up false information to support her argument like the two examples above.

 

[dwarfgourami]

I understand stunting, just it's not proved that a fishes insides can grow when their outsides don't, from stunting.

Yeah never heard of that either.

BTW Gankutsuou don't mind Boxermom, I had a run into her at another forum and she claims without any evidence that I lied about sucessfully keeping many types of fish of which are small in a 30 gallon tank.

She has this big issue with people "overstocking" tanks even though she doesn't have any proof but merely opinion. She often likes to make up false information to support her argument like the two examples above.

Is it a good idea to dig up ancient threads to start up aggro that seems to have died over a month ago? Gankutsuou has clearly moved on and stopped worrying about this comment, so why need you?

For the record, Boxermom was incorrect about the "insides keep growing" part (though she did not make this story up, it's an old urban myth), but perfectly correct about plecos outgrowing a 40 gallon tank and having their health adversely affected in the process. I have seen plecs with twisted spines from being kept in too small a tank, and it is perfectly clear from any length of stay on this forum that an important part of fish deaths can be explained when you see that they are kept in a small tank with massive waste producers.

 

[PaPeRo]

I understand stunting, just it's not proved that a fishes insides can grow when their outsides don't, from stunting.

Yeah never heard of that either.

BTW Gankutsuou don't mind Boxermom, I had a run into her at another forum and she claims without any evidence that I lied about sucessfully keeping many types of fish of which are small in a 30 gallon tank.

She has this big issue with people "overstocking" tanks even though she doesn't have any proof but merely opinion. She often likes to make up false information to support her argument like the two examples above.

Is it a good idea to dig up ancient threads to start up aggro that seems to have died over a month ago? Gankutsuou has clearly moved on and stopped worrying about this comment, so why need you?

For the record, Boxermom was incorrect about the "insides keep growing" part (though she did not make this story up, it's an old urban myth), but perfectly correct about plecos outgrowing a 40 gallon tank and having their health adversely affected in the process. I have seen plecs with twisted spines from being kept in too small a tank, and it is perfectly clear from any length of stay on this forum that an important part of fish deaths can be explained when you see that they are kept in a small tank with massive waste producers.

I don't deny that plecos need lots of space, it's just that wasn't what the thread was asking. People shouldn't assume that other people don't know what they're doing and start giving out advice that doesn't pertain to the question.

 

[Gankutsuou]

GOSH DARN IT.

Why can't any of my threads DIE?

this was at least a month ago. My pleco is back happily at a lfs, if not already sold. The only pleco in there now is a candy stripe which maxes at 3 inches.

None of te issues on the common pleco actually hit the issue I asked about, and I had to go find it out myself.

The topic has been answered. It's something going on in the breeding farms with a cross.

K. let it die.