Glofish Facts

[Pimp]

how is it inhumane the fish doesnt get hurt. the whole fish keeping would be inhumane. Think about it. Its like us being trapped in a little room for our whole lives with strangers from around the world.

dont agrue with this people- they are hardcore

 

[Bignose]

What is to prevent the colored genes from spreading from these fish? They will eventually get to the wild -- enough people think that they are doing their fish a favor by releasing them when the people no longer want the fish. Further, what happens when a larger fish eats these modified danios? In most cases, the genes would probably be broken down, but what is they aren't and spread to that bigger fish? Can the scientists really be 100% sure that that won't happen? Not 99.95%, but 100%. If they are honest about it, no scientist should say they are 100% certain about anything like that.

Fair point and all, but if a fish eats it they can suddenly take in the DNA, the jellyfish gene is added to the egg and causes the colours, how ever even if they did get into wild stocks they will surly not survive long being bright colour's they would surly soon become food for something with in days....

In all liklihood, for any individual fish this is true. But, there will always be those few that escape. Again, there is no 100%. I completely admit that the scenario I've outlined is rather unlikely, but is possible. And that is what I'm scared of.

 

[fry_lover]

i cant remember who said it, but somewhere on this thread it was said about there being plenty to fish to choose from, why go and get a glow in the dark one? I agree with that. My worry with a person who goes out and buys one of these bizarre things, is where will it all end? Once people who like such gimmicks start throwing their money around for them, we will be swamped with the damn things, just liked dyed parrots. I know its different and apparently less cruel, but its still another sign of us humans taking the p*ss out of animals and purely trying to amuse ourselves. Would you buy a glow in the dark dog as well if you could?

Go out and buy some proper fish, there are LOADS to choose from.....

 

[Maximus]

its still another sign of us humans taking the p*ss out of animals and purely trying to amuse ourselves.

Actually, they were created by scientists to detect pollution

But I have to agree, theres plently to choose from!

 

[fry_lover]

Adam the science of it is actually interesting, but why dont they just leave it as that, there's no need for these things to start ending up in people's aquariums, i would hate to think one day i walk into an LFS and its becomes hard work at finding normal, natural fish, i will need sun-glasses when i look at the tanks

And i am sure they were invented for good reasons, but i bet people dont end up buying them to detect pollution

 

[Maximus]

And i am sure they were invented for good reasons, but i bet people dont end up buying them to detect pollution

Agreed

 

[Pimp]

well the injection of glass and parrot fish went out of styl- so maybe this will... but i dont disagree or agree with it

but how do you think eating the fish will mutate the the fish that ate it... i eat oranges and i have no charcteristics(sp?) of an orange same with cow- apple- chicken.. etc.








HATERS!!. all you guys are like my grandpa- stubborn and hate change

 

[afishdude]

HATERS!!. all you guys are like my grandpa- stubborn and hate change

pimp almost every one of your posts here that i have seen have been flames. please thats not what these boards are for.

 

[fry_lover]

HATERS!!. all you guys are like my grandpa- stubborn and hate change

i dont mind change its just that glow in the dark fish annoy me, i dont like gimmicky fish stuff, but its my personal taste, sorry to hear about your Grandpa

 

[Pimp]

HATERS!!. all you guys are like my grandpa- stubborn and hate change

pimp almost every one of your posts here that i have seen have been flames. please thats not what these boards are for.

ahhaha- sorry but so was that one

 

[fry_lover]

actually if truth be told i am a hyprocrite really, i like hybrid fish and they can be considered somewhat "gimmicky" i just dont like the thought if all them 12 yr olds buying glow-in-the-dark fish because they are "super cooooool man......" but i respect the original poster, at least he raised it and and wants feedback,

 

[Aphotic Phoenix]

Further, what happens when a larger fish eats these modified danios? In most cases, the genes would probably be broken down, but what is they aren't and spread to that bigger fish?

I would really like to see some sort of precedent on the cell absorption of long protein strands directly by the nucleus of a cell before I even considered that a possibility. Even if it was possible to absorb part of a DNA strand into ONE cell, there would be the issue of an incomplete gene paring, immune response to the affected cell, and inability for the effected genes to spread to normal cells unless we are considering something more like viral reproduction.

 

[GuppyDude]

Part of the objection is that when humans start tinkering with the genes dramatically, sometimes the genes get out into the wild and start affecting things they were not supposed to.

I hardly think anything that glows bright pink is going to survive in the wild. Nor will anything eating this fish be affected. If i eat an apple, the structure of my DNA is not going to change one bit. I do see your point, what we've done in genetically modifying crops has had negative effects on teh environment, but we're talking glofish, not corn.

In my opinon genetic modification should be somthing we study and look into, but never should it be applied without considering the possibility that it may negativly impact something else, somthing natural. As long as no one is getting hurt its all good.

As for generic fish forum bickering; act your age guys.

 

[backley420]

As for generic fish forum bickering; act your age guys.

AfishDude- you should read this- no offensive but every post i see of you. you are offending or putting someone down.

 

[Bignose]

I agree that the chances are very small. But, again, the example of the modified plant genes showing up in the bees themselves and their honey. In the bees themselves! This modified gene transferred from plant to an animal species. That happened, and the scientists are all left scratching their heads as to how. (I am embarrassed to say I can't find this article anymore. It was in Scientific American or Science or one of those, but can't seem to locate it anymore.)

I agree that consumption of a fish in all likelihood isn't going to transfer the genes, but there are mechanisms for genes to transfer. Someone mentioned viral activity. Bacteria are known to exchange genes as well. Again, I agree that chances are very, very low, but they aren't zero. And that is what I'm afraid of.