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:D Hi right i am now at the point where i have made the complete list of fish i am stocking in my tank and would like your opinions ( Slt, CreamCheeseandlox, Danny and Semper fi ) Right here goes :

Fish :

4x Hatchet Fish - Carnegiella Strigata
4x Elephant Nose - Gnathonemus Petersii
2x Cameroon Armoured Shrimp - Atyopsis Galoonensis
10x Cardinal Tetra - Cheirodon Axelrodi
6x Lepard Corydoras - Corydoras Julii
6x VBronze Corydoras - Corydoras Aeneus
4x Half Banded Coolie Loach - Alanthopthalmus Semicinctus
4x Checker Barb - Barbus Oligolepis
6x Zebra Danio - Brachydanio Perio
2x Pearl Gourami - Trichogaster Leerie
6x Rosy Tetra - Hyphessobrycon Rosaleus
4x Three Banded Pencil Fish - Nannostomus Trifasciatus
4x Harlequin Fish - Rasbora Heteromorpha

Plants :

Amazon Sword - Echinodorus Bleheri
Anubias - Anubias Angustifolia
Anubias - Anubias Barteri
Anubias - Anubias Coffeefolica
Anubias - Anubias Nana
Moneywort - Balopa Monnieri
Cabomba - Cabomba Caroliniana
Cardamine - Cardamine Lyrata
Hornwort - Ceratophyllum Demersum
Wisteria - Hygrophila Difformis
Hygrophila Polysperma
Java Fern - Microsorum Pteropus
Java Moss - Versicularia Dubyana
Vallisneria Gigantea - Vallisneria Americana
Vallisneria Spiralis
Anacharis / Elodea - Egeria Densa
Cryptoloryne Beckettii
Cryptoloryne Wendtii


If all opinions are good i will start the tank next week taking pictures step by step, plant by plant, fish by fish to make an article as requested in forum. But i would like approval before starting
 
:-( ......obviously my opinion isn't wanted :p




....ain't worth a $%£& anyway ;)


(thought I'd get that in b4 somene else did) :lol:


:)
 
Yep i have a 166 litre Corner Tank
Lights are 3x fluroecents 1x Marine Blue bulb for night viewing
2x White Glo 1 is low light, other is Full Glo daylight Tube
1x Eheim Power Head Filter
1x Marathon 300 Stand Alone Filter
2x Co2 Reactors ( DIY )
1x Subsrate Heating System ( DIY )

I think thats everything :crazy: yep it it :D
 
i saw that in the other post. atleast it was not in the same post. now how to convert litres to gallons? :blink:


never was good at math! guess i should of paid more attention!


maggie
 
Heres a link so no more maths required for most calculations :

http://www.littlefishtank.com/utils/calculator.asp

So no-ones really answered yet i think erm not sure thanx wetwetwet im sure i will value your opinion.....i will just don`t get much advice from you before, only been here a week ( just typed out the names of members who gave me valuble info before ) so here your chance go 4 it :
 
thanks guys!

as for you cm, you did not put it there til i asked the question!

referee walks and slaps cm on the back of the head. cm 15/sf 15


:fun:

are the plants for decor, to help out with parameters or for food?

maggie
 
decor and to help with parameters, cycles etc. not 4 food hopefully
 
I know my opinion wasn't asked for and it's only my opinion, but isn't your list of fish a little big for your sized tank?
 
Also, take into account that 166 litres won't give you 41 gal of water. By the time you've added substrate and odds and sods, you'll lose about 10% of your volume.
 
Hi, just got back from my lfs with some new stuff. Anyway,

Hatchetfish are fairly cool and a very good community fish (IMO)

Cameroon Armoured Shrimp I am very very tempted to get one but there lobster type size puts me off and they are not that easy to get.

Cardinal Tetras - very good community fish (IMO)

Khuli loaches - excellent but are very shy and nocturnal

Barbs - be careful I had a bad experience with 2 Golden Barbs literally eating alive overnight my Betta Splendis. But obviously some Barbs are more peaceful than others.

As for the rest of the list I have no experience (Sorry)
 
gadazobe said:
I know my opinion wasn't asked for and it's only my opinion, but isn't your list of fish a little big for your sized tank?
I agree I really think you could be pushing the limit right to the edge. From what I've heard of elephant nose's they are also quite tough to keep, but never tried them myself ;)
 
Well ...... seeing as you asked so nicely.....

IMHO I wouldn't have so many different types but bigger shoals of some of the fish (the shoaling ones) you have sellected, cardinals, hatchets, danios, corries (corries mix well with other species of corrie)

Carefull of the hatchets though they're expert jumpers - close fitting lid essential.

Yep like the gouramis and the elephant nose - though can't these get quite big????

Howabout a plec of some kind??


:)
 
okay here goes (still nursing the evil slap from the very evil one cm) just hope that i do not come off looking like danny but i think my worst fears are about to be realized! oh well, make him proud then.....

first of all gad is right. way too many fish for the tank. maybe if you had the 160 gallon tank.

second, some of these fish may have problems with some of the other fish. not the peaceful community that you may be looking for. going over each one individually you may see some of the problems that you may have.

hatchetfish they like to have schools of 5 or more. they like to have faster moving water so one area of the tank will have to have an adequate current. may find they are hanging around your powerhead and filter to acheive this. they like to eat live foods, get to be around 1 1/2", temps of 72-80 degrees and ph of 5.5 -7.5.

downfall : with a school of 5 @ 1 1/2" you have 7 1/2" of fish.

elephant nose 2-4 will result in one becoming a bully and very aggressive. a school of 6 or better is recommended to keep the aggression levels tolerable. like temps of 78-82. each will need their own cave or hidey hole. they like live foods and are notorious escape artists. also get to be 9" in the aquarium even though some in the wild grow to lengths of 12".

downfall: 6 @ 9" is 54" of fish. unless you want to use this tank as a grow out and transfer them when they start to get to be matured. seeing as they need their own hidey hole or cave the footprint (bottom surface area) may not work well with this fish. they would do better in a longer tank, more footprint. also will have to make sure that the entire top of the tank is covered with no holes for escape routes. would be good in a drilled tank.

cameroon armoured shrimp like the cooler temps of 71-77 degrees, ph of 6.5. they do need to feel safe in their environment where they will not be considered food. grow to be about 2".

downfall: may be considered food by some of the other fish, especially the gouramis.

tetra tetras are characins. the most notorious of the characin is the pirranha. even though when properly fed you can put your hand in their tanks without getting bitten. bad rep but that is another post. they like temps of 78 and ph of 6.5-7.0. they are found in darker waters so they do need an area of darkkness. cardinals get to be about 2" and rosys abut 2 1/2".

downfall: may have to reconsider the lighting or create a darker area in the tank for them to feel comfortable. again the footprint is the problem. 10 cardinals @2" is 20" of fish. 6 rosys @ 2 1/2" 15" of fish. characins are notorious plant eaters. the pacu is a perfect example. the tougher plants will be ignored, but the swords and valisneria may get the brunt of their abuse. even though characins are omniverous they will take the opportunity to pick on weaker or injured fish. they also have teeth and may eat the shrimp especially.

pencilfish also a characin. get up to lengths of 3". temps of 78 and ph of 6.5-7.0.

downfall: 4 @ 3" is 12" of fish. also it is a characin.

catfish they prefer ph of 6.5 - 7.8 and temps of 77-82. the leopard will get to lengths of 1 1/2" and the bronze 2 3/4".

downfall: the leopard requires fine sand or very small stones to avoid injuring their barbs (whiskers). 6 leopards @ 1 1/2" is 9" and the bronze @ 2 3/4" is 16 1/2" of fish. also would have to limit your substrate to sand or fine gravel.

half banded koolie loach they are nocturnal. like to bury themselves in sand during the day and come out to feed at night. they prefer live foods, get to lenghts of 4", prefer ph of 5.5-6.5, and temps of 77-86.

downfall: may have problems with the plants staying rooted. would also be limited to sand as a substrate. since they are nocturnal may have problems with the lighting and ensuring there is food on the bottom for them to feed on at night. you do have some daytime bottom feeders. also 4 @ 4" is 16" of fish.

checker barb grow to lengths of 2", like temps of 68-84 and ph of 6-6.5. also need a school of 6 or better to feel comfortable. when fed live foods it conditions them to spawn. the male will get redder in color and the female will turn white.

downfall: 6 @ 2" is 12" of fish. when feeding live foods to the others that require it, you may induce them to spawn. not a really big problem but the fry may become lunch for the other fish.

pearl gourami will at flake food but when fed live foods are conditioned to spawn. they are bubblenest breeders and the male will become very aggressive protecting the nest. the males when matured will display a red throat. they prefer temps of 75-82 and ph of 6.5-8.5. can reach lengths of 5".

downfall: bubble nest breeders make their nests at the top of the tank. if they do spawn, they may consider their nests being threatened by the fish that prefer the top of the tank. they will kill or be killed protecting their young and will become very aggressive. also live food conditions them to spawn, if you do get two males then they will fight with eachother when conditioned.

harlequin they prefer schools of 8 or more, reach lengths of 2", prefer temps of 72-80 and ph of 5.5-7.5. they like live foods especially small crustaceans.

down fall: whatch out shrimps! :unsure: also 8 @ 2" is 16" of fish.

zebra danios they like temps of 64-77, ph of 6.5-7.2, prefer schools of 6 or more and grow to lengths of 2 1/2".

downfall: 6 @ 2 1/2" is 15" of fish.

so now you have 207" of fish. you would have to maintain a ph of 6.5 to 7.0. maintaining the higher ph of 7.0 you would lose the shrimp, maintaining the lower ph of 6.5 you would lose the tetras. temp would have to be around 78 kinda iffy for again the tetras and the danios.

substrate would have to be sand or you would lose the leopard cat and the loaches. also with the amount of sand required to have the loaches bury themselves, you now lose some of the volume of water like gadazobe pointed out.

the tank would have to be totally closed so the elephants would not escape. don't want to have a bunch of elephants running lose in your house! :-( alright bad joke.

not even going to try with the plants that is rose's area of expertise. with the characins you will have to be careful as to what plants you chose. my pacu eats everything in site. even though i was told that he is peaceful and non aggressive he has eaten other fish. so that is a fallacy.

got to stop rambling! going to grow a mustache like danny in a minute! yeesh!

hth

maggie

edit to make the bold work :)
 

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